5 Year Outdoor MX Concepts

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Future Concepts for outdoors

(1) 2 Day program - Friday & Saturday (worked at TV and Red Bud in '26)

(More income for tracks with Thursday - Friday camping. More income for MX Sports with additional classes.)
 
(2) Bring back 125cc All-Stars
 
(2a) Host more SMX future races
 
(3) Bring back Glen Helen to replace Pala
 
(4) Improve track signage. 
 
(5) Do away with permanent numbers (only 4 numbers under #20 currently racing)
 
(6) Current SMX overall points system makes no sense. (Combining points for those not participating in both series or those switching classes does not compute) 
 
(7) If your going to continue with SMX, make sure final races do not conflict with FIM World MXGP championship. 
 
(Allow Fim riders who qualify for SMX finals to to compete in SMX finals without conflicting dates.)
 
(8) Establish a standalone EV class. 
(More income for tracks with More spectators. More income for MX Sports with additional class.)
 
(9) Establish a stand up EV scooter class on its own track for Friday Night entertainment. Temporary lighting.
 
(More income for tracks with More spectators. More income for MX Sports. Easy to find sponsors.)
 
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7/9/2026 2:15pm

What about bringing back Lucas Oil girls?

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7/9/2026 3:33pm
Mavetism wrote:

What about bringing back Lucas Oil girls?

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7/9/2026 3:40pm

another idea may be to award mxgp riders smx points based on their seasons. 
Hope would be to attract global riders outside of AMA. 
Monster Energy Cup used to draw some guys over for that weekend. 

Long shot. 

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7/9/2026 7:23pm Edited Date/Time 7/9/2026 7:26pm

(5) Do away with permanent numbers (only 4 numbers under #20 currently racing)

I say do the opposite.
Keep requirements for numbers under 50, and the rules as today for numbers under 10.
 
Assign riders an available number the first year they turn pro, starting with 50. Most new pros will be issued a 3 digit number.
 
Numbers under 50 have to be earned.
 
Let them keep that number for their entire career, with less stringent requirements to keep it than now.
 
As long as a rider qualifies for the night show in Sx or Smx, or an Mx race once in a season, they can keep their number the following 2 seasons.
 
Allow those who earn 25 points over an Smx season in either 450 or 250 to upgrade their number the following season, with priority going to 450 riders, then 250, with those who earn the most points getting first choice.
 
It's better for fans because we recognize riders early in the season.
It's better for riders because they can build a brand around their number.
It's better for sponsors for the same reason as for riders.
 
When I raced BMX as a kid, I was assigned 446.  I raced with that same number for several years.  It was my number!
I race MX with that same number today.
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7/9/2026 7:27pm Edited Date/Time 7/9/2026 7:29pm
Mavetism wrote:

What about bringing back Lucas Oil girls?

711stretch wrote:
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Those two were great fun together, where are they now.

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Most tracks already have amateur racing on friday and sunday, so I am not sure what you are talking about adding.

While 125 all stars, SMX next, and legends races are nice fillers, not sure they really bring additional people in. Same for EV races.

I don't know why nobody has ever mentioned replacing pala with glen helen. seems pretty simple. <sarcasm>

I prefer the current numbering system to what they had in the past with numbers changing every year.

If you think MXGP is going to do anything to help SMX or their star riders to come and race in the states you are truely clueless. They are already struggling to hold on to any new talent.

 

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FMB2.0 wrote:
Future Concepts for outdoors(1) 2 Day program - Friday & Saturday (worked at TV and Red Bud in '26)(More income for tracks with Thursday - Friday...

Future Concepts for outdoors

(1) 2 Day program - Friday & Saturday (worked at TV and Red Bud in '26)

(More income for tracks with Thursday - Friday camping. More income for MX Sports with additional classes.)
 
(2) Bring back 125cc All-Stars
 
(2a) Host more SMX future races
 
(3) Bring back Glen Helen to replace Pala
 
(4) Improve track signage. 
 
(5) Do away with permanent numbers (only 4 numbers under #20 currently racing)
 
(6) Current SMX overall points system makes no sense. (Combining points for those not participating in both series or those switching classes does not compute) 
 
(7) If your going to continue with SMX, make sure final races do not conflict with FIM World MXGP championship. 
 
(Allow Fim riders who qualify for SMX finals to to compete in SMX finals without conflicting dates.)
 
(8) Establish a standalone EV class. 
(More income for tracks with More spectators. More income for MX Sports with additional class.)
 
(9) Establish a stand up EV scooter class on its own track for Friday Night entertainment. Temporary lighting.
 
(More income for tracks with More spectators. More income for MX Sports. Easy to find sponsors.)
 
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7/10/2026 5:31am

What problem are you trying to solve? The record attendance or the exciting racing?

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How many GP guys would even go to the US just for an SMX race? I can’t imagine many, if any at all. They’d have to qualify for SMX by racing in the US beforehand.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding your post but I don’t see any reason to schedule the SMX races around MXGP.

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FMB2.0 wrote:
Future Concepts for outdoors(1) 2 Day program - Friday & Saturday (worked at TV and Red Bud in '26)(More income for tracks with Thursday - Friday...

Future Concepts for outdoors

(1) 2 Day program - Friday & Saturday (worked at TV and Red Bud in '26)

(More income for tracks with Thursday - Friday camping. More income for MX Sports with additional classes.)
 
(2) Bring back 125cc All-Stars
 
(2a) Host more SMX future races
 
(3) Bring back Glen Helen to replace Pala
 
(4) Improve track signage. 
 
(5) Do away with permanent numbers (only 4 numbers under #20 currently racing)
 
(6) Current SMX overall points system makes no sense. (Combining points for those not participating in both series or those switching classes does not compute) 
 
(7) If your going to continue with SMX, make sure final races do not conflict with FIM World MXGP championship. 
 
(Allow Fim riders who qualify for SMX finals to to compete in SMX finals without conflicting dates.)
 
(8) Establish a standalone EV class. 
(More income for tracks with More spectators. More income for MX Sports with additional class.)
 
(9) Establish a stand up EV scooter class on its own track for Friday Night entertainment. Temporary lighting.
 
(More income for tracks with More spectators. More income for MX Sports. Easy to find sponsors.)
 

You should have stopped at 3. 4 onward are stupid ideas. 

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I'll just address the 125 'All Stars".

Nope, no, what were they, 4 lap 'demo' races.

Make then the 25 minutes plus 2 laps, as EMX125 is.

Real , High Level Racing. 

But, fat chance on that ever happening  - as, the organizers of the US nationals, and GNCC : MX Sports,  dumped the XC3 (125s) class in GNCC. Citing there was 'no transition' through it.

But, I'll renege on my first sentence, and ad this  : I was surprised , well, quite Impressed / Delighted, when Michael seemed to favour the Nationals going back to 2 days. 

Onya Michael !

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"O God, give us the serenity to accept what cannot be changed, the courage to change what can be changed, and the wisdom to know the one from the other."

A piece of wisdom from a total atheist.

😉

Also works for people who want Triumphs to be all flo yellow.

 

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3strokemx wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve? The record attendance or the exciting racing?

You don't get it? Yet it's so well sold, thanks to that detailed explanatory introduction.

😉

Parents should really stop offering "The little Davey Coombs" experimentation game box to their kids for Christmas.

 

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(3) Bring back Glen Helen to replace Pala

 

I'd bet Israel and Iran sign peace before this happens.
 

 

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There's still something real fun with this useless thread...

"Let's put together a good old 125 all stars race for the noise and smell of two strokes, and discouver fast kids with more SX futures race!"

"R U f***in kiddin me? What I want is a hot gurl fiddlin with another hot gurl's ass! Yeeeehaaaa!!!"

🤣

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Eliminate start grates and holey devices.

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