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3rd option, are we still not using the Ktm triangle stand/fork saver combos? Or tie them down diagonal using the frame on either side and not cranking the forks down at all.
More apt poll:
Does saying you’re going to delete your account and then not doing it make you look like a fool?
I Replace the air bleed screws with the push button style bleeders. I Bleed the air out every time I strap the bike down. I push the button again with the bike on the stand to let air back in.
If you do have a leaking fork seal and do this, it will leak a lot less while pulled down.
Yeah that might look pretty silly!
But still not as foolish as imagining someone said that and then spamming your delusion in multiple threads!
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Put it on a stand and tie them down at the foot pegs with a turnbuckle.
You then never have to ask yourself the question.
When you deleting the account? Clock is ticking
Go away.
Moto cinch don’t need to loosen off.
Best invention. Like mine as it cleans up the trailer floor
Okay so this might be too much but…
Technically any tying down of the bike that doesn’t incorporate the straps being parallel and in-line with the forks will put pressure on seals and bushings. It’s just 2 tubes and if you don’t compress them totally parallel-perpendicular, you have lateral forces.
the best way to do this would be to levitate your bike😂
I wouldn't think pressure would "wear out" a seal, it would just make it easier for the oil to find the easiest exit on an already worn seal, from dirt passing through the seal or just wearing out via friction. The only thing I'd worry about is slowly sacking out your springs from being stored under tension.
That actually makes a lot of sense.
My field testing has determined the following pattern:
Tied Down not moving = fine
Riding the bike = fine
Tied Down and moving (bumps) = will occasionally cause a leak
The lateral force could be allowing the oil past the seal, explains why leak is most likely when tied down and moving combined, but not with those individual conditions.
I think your strapping them down too far creating excess pressure if your getting leaks. Have the straps closer to a 45 degree angle from the bike and you don't need much tension at all or like others suggested turn buckles on the foot pegs works well too.
I’m sure it’s fine but we all loosen because “that’s just what you do”
Hydraulic seals are a lot tougher than most people realize. Dirt getting past the wiper is their kryptonite, the pressure of being held at half travel isn’t going to hurt a healthy seal. And if you see a leak when tied down, the seal is already bad, get some new ones on the way.
The fork does not increase in pressure as it's compressed. It moves oil from one side of the shim stack to the other.
They're talking about the outer chamber, not the inner.
Unless you're hooking the straps to the forks under your bottom clamps, there shouldn't be any lateral pressure on fork internals.
Yeah it inputs the damping rod into the internal chamber, compresses the ICS, and pressurizes the system.
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Do you want a free body diagram lol? What I said is correct.
I always did it because it took pressure off the fork springs keeping them from sacking out faster.
Is this with or without a wheel chock? Without, the bottom of the tire should be the fulcrum shouldn't it? If the wheel was locked in place then yea, it would be trying to bow the fork between the bottom clamp and the axle.
You guys are crazy or riding bikes with 1980s seals
Pretty sure since it’s vital it’s both.
If it leaks tied down. The seal is already bad or went waaayyyyy toooo faaaaaarrrr.
Every bike would be pulled against something.
The inner tube would be a pivot at the axle. That’s why I’m saying no matter what you’re gonna have forces on the bushings and seals. Next time you pull your forks apart check on the tubes and you’ll see some increased wear areas on the tubes from transport. For me it’s super obvious because I have a trailer with exact, repeatable mounting protocol and a fork support that I’ve used since day one.
The best way to do this is for your straps to be perfectly in line with the forks but it only minimizes this effect. My favorite way to strap a bike is caddycorner in a pickup truck because the bike locks down snug with minimal force if you use a wider hook placement. I’ve thought way too much about this I’m sorry.
Is that even possible? Doubt fork springs are anywhere close to their elastic limit even if you bottom out.
Anyway, I keep the straps loose overnight and always think "I should just tighten them down...". I dunno man, been doing it all my life. Thanks dad.
I mean come on, you think having the forks slightly compressed is anything near the beating you give them riding the bike? Seals are bad or you need to just lay the bike over in the back of the truck.
How does an air fork work? Or why does changing the oil level affect how the fork feels?
Oh great.
Now you've gone and done it.
😁
And if you've got a minute, would you mind showing me where the springs are in the AER forks? I can't seem to find them but I know they're there because it still bounces back.
TIA 👍
The aer springs are all around you, the fork pump just spins the air into little coils and stacks them into the fork. The more little coils you put in, the stiffer the fork gets!
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