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This game does look to be aimed for more realistic than the others. I play mx bikes in 3rd person because I have always been a 3rd person player and It looks more realistic while slowing it down some. Everyone I see playing 1st person on bikes is not realistic what so ever going mach 10 everywhere which takes away the simulator feel to it in my opinion.
As it stands right now, MTG wont have modsupport and no ingame track editor; there wont be any tracks created by the community.
There will be no “community created” mods for MTG.
I already asked this. Everything will be “paid for” mods made by the game developers.
I agree but I hope not. MXB was a step backwards from MXSim as far as riding physics goes but most of this team are MXB fanboys so it kind of makes sense.
This is what it looks like when you actually focus on the physics first. This is just one guy slowly working on his own game and he's made more progress on his riding physics than this entire team. They're either completely lost or seriously need to reconsider their priorities. Reading game updates that revolve around them taking time off or vacations is annoying when the game doesn't seem to be addressing any of the issues people have with it. Nobody cares that you can click the 'rain' default in Unreal engine.
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Thank you. I’ll probably get a lot of downvotes for this, but whatever:
Who cares about 3D-scanned tracks, partnerships, waving flag animations, being able to walk around in multiplayer, or dirt and mud on the riders face and clothes, etc? (Those are just some of the monthly updates they’ve been posting on the Kickstarter.) None of that matters if the physics are off. Considering the game was supposed to be released months ago, until they realized they couldn’t meet their own deadline, this gameplay trailer isn’t very promising in my opinion. The bike physics clearly still need a lot of work, and that should be the number one priority, like you said @aeffertz.
What also really bothers me is this:
- They heavily promote MTG inside MX Bikes, which is kind of a bitch move. Promoting a game inside a direct competitor..damn
- Monthly payment subscribtions
- No Mod Support at all (also not planned)
- The CEO has straight up insulted anyone who criticized MTG, instead of taking that as feedback. To be fair, it seems like he has toned it down recently, but it still left a bad impression.
- They originally promised a Q4 2025 release date, but later admitted they won’t be able to meet that deadline. That part is understandable, if they need more time to make the game better, that’s fine.
What’s crazy tho is their explanation: “We were just a group of gamers when we made the roadmap.” (quoting reaperdoc)
That basically means they had no clue at all when the game would actually be finished when they launched the Kickstarter and started raising money. And if that’s the case, then it’s hard not to question the other claims they made at the time, like calling it “hyper-realistic” motocross simulator. If they were “just a group of gamers” when they went public, how much of what they promised was actually grounded in a solid plan?
I really hope this properly comes to life!!
I do wonder where their funding is coming from to pay for it… pre orders? A studio? A rich uncle? Are they all part owners working for the dream?
Is this coming out before GTA 6? Don’t really play video games but maybe 10 times a year. But I’ll buy this and check it out and hope for the best.
I don't think promoting MTG inside MX Bikes is bad at all. I know you know it, but a lot of people don't, so I'll clarify. The same people that work on MTG are also the reason MX Bikes is where it is now. OEM Bike pack, ARL Outdoor, Supercross and MXGP tracks (and specially the championships) and more is made by the MTG team pretty much. The base game without all those things is NOT a great game and wouldn't be played by most people, so I don't mind it at all if they promote the shit out of MTG inside MX Bikes.
Monthly subscriptions is something that finds itself in pretty much every Esports and it's also only required if someone wants to play competitive. The default multiplayer will be free, they at least stated that a couple times.
And constantly providing multiplayer servers, championships, stats, an anti cheat and more things is some insane amount of work/effort. They should not extra charge for track packs though for example if people pay a monthly fee to play competitive, that's for sure.
The few Esport games that work without a monthly subscription get their money mainly from other things like skins/cosmetics.
No Mod support is definitely something that will be missed I think compared to MXB where you got unlimited free tracks/gear. They gotta nail everything else so people don't miss that kind of stuff. I hope it will be a thing in the future though.
Yeah the promised release date was for sure a flop. It's hard to say "they should have known better". I think a big part of putting out an release date was also the gather in people for the kickstarter to get the ball rolling.
We are now probably looking at a release date a year after that (or even later) though and some people that paid big money for it will probably be pissed, which is understandable, on the other hand they force nobody to pay anything before the game releases, it's all optional.
One more thing, something that people shouldn't forget. This is not planned as a "release and forget game" like the yearly Monster energy SX or MXGP games. This game is intended to stay for a long time with constant updates. I see a lot of comments from people regarding their expectations for the release. No matter how the game is on release, they will work on it after that. Not everything has to be perfect. The most important thing for me is the physics being at a great starting point when the game comes out. Everything else is secondary imo.
Video games are for nerds unless you’re like 8
Then why even open this thread?
Don’t get your panties in a wad big dog, if you enjoy it that’s great.
find it ridiculous that they took everyone’s money, promised the game would be delivered in 25, and now they put out a monthly update with updates no one cares about, like waving flag animations and players being able to walk around. They need to get the physics right and fix other issues they missed the first deadline on. There isn’t even an expected timeframe for the game to come out now, after taking over $100,000 from the public. If I were a betting man, I would say this game never even comes out at this point.
I kind of grumbled when the last update started with something to the effect of "After a long holiday break, we're back!" - like, if you're already crazy late with this project, start the update with "We've been working round the clock..."(even if you're not).
That said, the team behind this are OG in the gaming community and I doubt they'd blow their reputations on a shutdown. Visually, I have no doubt the game will look amazing...as is always the case, it'll come down to physics.
Hell, I'm on almost year 15? playing MXSim. Tried Bikes, but wasn't my cup of tea.
Shitttt I'll take being called a nerd, been called much worse.
Just fucking with you boys, if you enjoy it there’s nothing wrong with that
Sorry but this is just bad. "Getting to know the team" and then the most basic questions answered with AI voices and AI Avatars.. ye I didnt get to know shit lol. But oh well I dont need to know them. Fingers crossed they deliver what they promise..
I guess they've disabled comments for a reason. 😂
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Because they’re just asking for money again and the core of the game is still nothing close to what they advertised.
It’s a scam
Not a good look after all the promises. I hope it ends well, but my expectations are getting lower and lower...
$100k is virtually nothing in terms of game development.
There are terms for this, I had to research it.
Expectation Creep: The release target moves because market expectations move faster than the project can ship.
The Horizon Problem: Every time you get closer, the destination moves farther away.
Evidently it is a possible and common trap crowdfunded games fall into. Its not intentional. The game is trying to stay current and polished but the market is always changing. So the finish line moves, time to polish. Its running on a treadmill where the game is always getting better but never actually getting released.
Sure but one thing to remember is that they said the game would be coming out regardless if they got the crowdfunding or not. So with an overwhelming amount crowd backing and the game being pretty much at a standstill since then, people are getting frustrated when the updates are "we made a new track" "we took a vacation to go look at tracks" "we're taking a much needed break" "we hired some more people" and the game hasn't really fundamentally changed since the first game play footage however long ago.
I want this to succeed but they definitely sold an idea instead of a close to ready product that just needed some more funding to get across the line, which is kinda scummy.
There's a reason they aren't fulfilling their promise on early access play and virtually no unedited videos of the gameplay. It's because the most important part of the game (the part that every studio struggles with) is nowhere near what they had promised. They need to get their priorities straight otherwise this fun vacation they got to try and make a game will end before they know it and they will tarnish people's reputations in the process.
Yeah, that's the weird part. They said the game would be completed and released, regardless of the crowdfunding.
Very, very shady stuff.
It’s literally been two years. It’s obvious these guys are in over their head. Money grab at this point
No community made mods in MTG unfortunately, only paid DLC.
The OEM team in MX Bikes are not the same people behind MTG.
MTG is Niko (Virtual MX LLC; MYMXB, MX Bikes Shop) and some track creators. Basically the people who create paid content for MXB.
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