The Numbers Don't Lie - Jett Vs's Deegen

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5/31/2026 11:11am
peelout wrote:

don't forget interview with Deegan but not J-Coop

The industry has looked over j coop his whole career. Quietly chipping away and will win one of these soon. 

He's turned out to be a hell of a 450 sx and mx rider. Well rounded in both. Will he ever beat the Lawrence's? No but...

He's turned out to be a hell of a 450 sx and mx rider. Well rounded in both. Will he ever beat the Lawrence's? No but he's going to have an amazing career to look back on when its all said and done. One we could only dream of

J Coop is the most overlooked rider in the last few decades.. 

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5/31/2026 12:07pm
vdrsnk04 wrote:
I’m guessing because Deegan has been saying he would beat Jett, “RIP Jett”, etc. and talking about being 22-0. None of the other guys said that...

I’m guessing because Deegan has been saying he would beat Jett, “RIP Jett”, etc. and talking about being 22-0. None of the other guys said that coming in.


That said, this thread is kinda silly and yesterdays races were awesome!

I have yet to see Haiden say that he would beat Jett. I have also never heard him say he’d go 22-0 either. Where did you see him say this ? 

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vdrsnk04 wrote:
I’m guessing because Deegan has been saying he would beat Jett, “RIP Jett”, etc. and talking about being 22-0. None of the other guys said that...

I’m guessing because Deegan has been saying he would beat Jett, “RIP Jett”, etc. and talking about being 22-0. None of the other guys said that coming in.


That said, this thread is kinda silly and yesterdays races were awesome!

Langhammx wrote:
I have yet to see Haiden say that he would beat Jett. I have also never heard him say he’d go 22-0 either. Where did you...

I have yet to see Haiden say that he would beat Jett. I have also never heard him say he’d go 22-0 either. Where did you see him say this ? 

It’s annoying. These couch racers put THIER OWN ridiculously high expectations on someone and when they fail to meet it they go out and make stupid spreadsheets proving their superior moto knowledge 😂

Deegan said over and over how he’s just pumped to be racing these guys and wants to see where he’s at which is a normal response and expectation. 

“But hIS sHiRT SAid” 

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vdrsnk04 wrote:
I’m guessing because Deegan has been saying he would beat Jett, “RIP Jett”, etc. and talking about being 22-0. None of the other guys said that...

I’m guessing because Deegan has been saying he would beat Jett, “RIP Jett”, etc. and talking about being 22-0. None of the other guys said that coming in.


That said, this thread is kinda silly and yesterdays races were awesome!

Langhammx wrote:
I have yet to see Haiden say that he would beat Jett. I have also never heard him say he’d go 22-0 either. Where did you...

I have yet to see Haiden say that he would beat Jett. I have also never heard him say he’d go 22-0 either. Where did you see him say this ? 

Talon wrote:
It’s annoying. These couch racers put THIER OWN ridiculously high expectations on someone and when they fail to meet it they go out and make stupid...

It’s annoying. These couch racers put THIER OWN ridiculously high expectations on someone and when they fail to meet it they go out and make stupid spreadsheets proving their superior moto knowledge 😂

Deegan said over and over how he’s just pumped to be racing these guys and wants to see where he’s at which is a normal response and expectation. 

“But hIS sHiRT SAid” 

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Langhammx wrote:
I have yet to see Haiden say that he would beat Jett. I have also never heard him say he’d go 22-0 either. Where did you...

I have yet to see Haiden say that he would beat Jett. I have also never heard him say he’d go 22-0 either. Where did you see him say this ? 

Talon wrote:
It’s annoying. These couch racers put THIER OWN ridiculously high expectations on someone and when they fail to meet it they go out and make stupid...

It’s annoying. These couch racers put THIER OWN ridiculously high expectations on someone and when they fail to meet it they go out and make stupid spreadsheets proving their superior moto knowledge 😂

Deegan said over and over how he’s just pumped to be racing these guys and wants to see where he’s at which is a normal response and expectation. 

“But hIS sHiRT SAid” 

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Oh look. One of the forum retards is here 

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Talon wrote:
It’s annoying. These couch racers put THIER OWN ridiculously high expectations on someone and when they fail to meet it they go out and make stupid...

It’s annoying. These couch racers put THIER OWN ridiculously high expectations on someone and when they fail to meet it they go out and make stupid spreadsheets proving their superior moto knowledge 😂

Deegan said over and over how he’s just pumped to be racing these guys and wants to see where he’s at which is a normal response and expectation. 

“But hIS sHiRT SAid” 

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Talon wrote:

Oh look. One of the forum retards is here 

THE…..

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5/31/2026 12:54pm
26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better...

26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. 

Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better rider on the 450.  

mx691 wrote:
This ^^Except maybe 2023 Sexton, Todays Haiden would have beaten these guys back then.

This ^^
Except maybe 2023 Sexton, Todays Haiden would have beaten these guys back then.

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 Ferrandis was really good here too. Very close to chase. Better than this year's Cooper who finished 4th

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5/31/2026 1:23pm
vdrsnk04 wrote:
I’m guessing because Deegan has been saying he would beat Jett, “RIP Jett”, etc. and talking about being 22-0. None of the other guys said that...

I’m guessing because Deegan has been saying he would beat Jett, “RIP Jett”, etc. and talking about being 22-0. None of the other guys said that coming in.


That said, this thread is kinda silly and yesterdays races were awesome!

Langhammx wrote:
I have yet to see Haiden say that he would beat Jett. I have also never heard him say he’d go 22-0 either. Where did you...

I have yet to see Haiden say that he would beat Jett. I have also never heard him say he’d go 22-0 either. Where did you see him say this ? 

Talon wrote:
It’s annoying. These couch racers put THIER OWN ridiculously high expectations on someone and when they fail to meet it they go out and make stupid...

It’s annoying. These couch racers put THIER OWN ridiculously high expectations on someone and when they fail to meet it they go out and make stupid spreadsheets proving their superior moto knowledge 😂

Deegan said over and over how he’s just pumped to be racing these guys and wants to see where he’s at which is a normal response and expectation. 

“But hIS sHiRT SAid” 

lol then it wouldn’t make sense to wear the shirt you speak of if you didn’t think it.

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Who cares about this Jett VS Deegan crap, some many people are putting hype on it when both just got their butts handed to them by Hunter and Jorge.  Eli and Chase are in the hunt to see who can hit the ground more while RJ is just getting warmed up. 

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5/31/2026 5:41pm

Deegans rookie ride was meh. 

Compared to: HL - 2nd. JL 1st. Dylan f - 1st. Zach osborne 4th. Eli - 3rd, Kenny 2nd. Bagget 5th (tie with Deegs)

Thats just a few. keep in mind, the list i listed only has 1 2 time 250 champion there. Kenny no 250 ama. 

None of this means Deegs can't be the best etc. But when people talk rookie rides. It was just ok. 

Playing devils advocate. The Dung straight up got 8th his rookie outdoor race. At the time it was called the SX hangover. But still he got 8th

His first 450 race as a fulltime 450 guy was 2nd at A1. But if you are counting his first when he was a 250 guy, it was a 4th. 

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Deegans rookie ride was meh. Compared to: HL - 2nd. JL 1st. Dylan f - 1st. Zach osborne 4th. Eli - 3rd, Kenny 2nd. Bagget 5th (tie...

Deegans rookie ride was meh. 

Compared to: HL - 2nd. JL 1st. Dylan f - 1st. Zach osborne 4th. Eli - 3rd, Kenny 2nd. Bagget 5th (tie with Deegs)

Thats just a few. keep in mind, the list i listed only has 1 2 time 250 champion there. Kenny no 250 ama. 

None of this means Deegs can't be the best etc. But when people talk rookie rides. It was just ok. 

Playing devils advocate. The Dung straight up got 8th his rookie outdoor race. At the time it was called the SX hangover. But still he got 8th

His first 450 race as a fulltime 450 guy was 2nd at A1. But if you are counting his first when he was a 250 guy, it was a 4th. 

There’s more to it than just numbers. Jett’s rookie season had guys with a total of 5 titles (not counting regional sx titles) combined. Haiden went into his 450 rookie season where the total combined titles (again, not including regional sx titles) is 22, plus Jorge Prado’s 4 World Titles. When RV went 1-1, there was Reed, who at that time had 2 titles. There’s no comparison.  

Deegan walked into one of the toughest classes in years, so looking beyond the numbers matters. 

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I'd really appreciate if he kept his salad-tosser IN his pie-hole.... You're supposed to get over the whole tongue thing around 6 yrs old ....

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MrMoto wrote:

I'd really appreciate if he kept his salad-tosser IN his pie-hole.... You're supposed to get over the whole tongue thing around 6 yrs old ....

That's sort of the parents' job to teach their 6 year olds that....not encourage it into adulthood.

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Talon wrote:

Oh look. One of the forum retards is here 

DonM wrote:

THE…..

Your boy didn't live up to expectations KarenM...

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Deegans rookie ride was meh. Compared to: HL - 2nd. JL 1st. Dylan f - 1st. Zach osborne 4th. Eli - 3rd, Kenny 2nd. Bagget 5th (tie...

Deegans rookie ride was meh. 

Compared to: HL - 2nd. JL 1st. Dylan f - 1st. Zach osborne 4th. Eli - 3rd, Kenny 2nd. Bagget 5th (tie with Deegs)

Thats just a few. keep in mind, the list i listed only has 1 2 time 250 champion there. Kenny no 250 ama. 

None of this means Deegs can't be the best etc. But when people talk rookie rides. It was just ok. 

Playing devils advocate. The Dung straight up got 8th his rookie outdoor race. At the time it was called the SX hangover. But still he got 8th

His first 450 race as a fulltime 450 guy was 2nd at A1. But if you are counting his first when he was a 250 guy, it was a 4th. 

The Moth wrote:
There’s more to it than just numbers. Jett’s rookie season had guys with a total of 5 titles (not counting regional sx titles) combined. Haiden went...

There’s more to it than just numbers. Jett’s rookie season had guys with a total of 5 titles (not counting regional sx titles) combined. Haiden went into his 450 rookie season where the total combined titles (again, not including regional sx titles) is 22, plus Jorge Prado’s 4 World Titles. When RV went 1-1, there was Reed, who at that time had 2 titles. There’s no comparison.  

Deegan walked into one of the toughest classes in years, so looking beyond the numbers matters. 

Come on mate. Do you really think Jett wouldn't have smoked anyone that lined up for his debut season? 

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Talon wrote:

Oh look. One of the forum retards is here 

DonM wrote:

THE…..

Your boy didn't live up to expectations KarenM...

Your boy didn't live up to expectations KarenM...

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Well dipshitasorous…..Deegs did exactly what I expected and in other threads I predicted 3-5 so I would say he lived up to my expectations….and he exceeded yours so…I’ll take the win over your dumbass….

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From the Moto Aggregate App   

From the Moto Aggregate App

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Wow, that's cool to see. Jett's consistency in lap times is impressive. 

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Skuzzy29 wrote:
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Dunge is the most underrated animal in that elite club.

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Jett is 5th on the all-time outdoor wins (both classes combined) with 39, just five behind Eli.  Crazy to think if he wins six more overalls this year out of the nine remaining rounds he will go past Eli’s career win total.

He is also one win away from matching Chad Reed on 55 combined (MX and SX) wins, which would put him equal tenth on the all-time list.

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I’m blown away by the fact they shaved 4 seconds (J) and 7 seconds (H) off the fastest laps in the second moto when the track...

I’m blown away by the fact they shaved 4 seconds (J) and 7 seconds (H) off the fastest laps in the second moto when the track was in worse shape. These freaking guys are aliens at this level. 

Lets face it, Hangtown is like the 405 compared to other tracks. They could probably shave another 2secs off with a little more time on it. Its is just incredible how fast these guys go.

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Skuzzy29 wrote:
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I disagree. A lot of those wins were when RV was injured. 

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I disagree. A lot of those wins were when RV was injured. 

RV didn’t actually win a lot of races in relation to the titles he won.  He only won 12 450 overalls.

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Rough update, had to make a new profile and pay $1.

I need to get the Ai better but you get the picture.

I'll also add in head to head numbers for those that are interested.

Jett Lawerance Vs. Haiden Deegen 

Jett 6 wins from 6 starts.

Haiden 0 wins from 6 starts.

The numbers don't lie.

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CPR wrote:

Dunge is the most underrated animal in that elite club.

I was just going to say the same thing. 

He is predominantly at the top of being one of the current pro  riders favorite racer. 

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6/14/2026 2:30am
Langhammx wrote:
I have yet to see Haiden say that he would beat Jett. I have also never heard him say he’d go 22-0 either. Where did you...

I have yet to see Haiden say that he would beat Jett. I have also never heard him say he’d go 22-0 either. Where did you see him say this ? 

Talon wrote:
It’s annoying. These couch racers put THIER OWN ridiculously high expectations on someone and when they fail to meet it they go out and make stupid...

It’s annoying. These couch racers put THIER OWN ridiculously high expectations on someone and when they fail to meet it they go out and make stupid spreadsheets proving their superior moto knowledge 😂

Deegan said over and over how he’s just pumped to be racing these guys and wants to see where he’s at which is a normal response and expectation. 

“But hIS sHiRT SAid” 

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You’re so gay for Brian it’s unreal 

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