Any techies out there understand what the real world implications of this actually are?

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The only thing I understand about a VPN is that my laptop has an icon that I click on to access my work network. Other than that, not much at all. 

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law


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5/3/2026 10:46am

Not a techie and didn't read the articles, but it's confusing how age is determined by location. And the concept seems weird, like if someone scams you via dishonesty, it's also your fault somehow. Maybe we should apply that to legislators when the government is ripped off..

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5/3/2026 11:36am

4th Amendment…?

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5/3/2026 11:55am

How are they going to police that, and how many people and dollars?

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5/3/2026 1:30pm

I don't use a VPN, but my phone thinks I'm in Colorado all the time.

Even when I'm in Utah, as long as I don't enable location services in my phone or log on using local wifi my phone still thinks I'm in Aurora, CO.

Pain in the A when I'm trying to find crap in say a Home Depot and when I get on the website I have to change location every time manually. But I'd rather it be just a smidgen harder on the man to track me than enable my location. Not that they can't already, just makes me feel better about it.

 

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5/3/2026 1:47pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:

How are they going to police that, and how many people and dollars?

That’s pretty much what I’m asking. How will it work out in the real world?  I think I understand the article on a basic level, and it sounds like the websites who could be held liable don’t really have a good way to know if the connection is coming through a VPN or not most of the time. 

Is this mostly symbolic ‘make voters think we’re doing something’ type of legislation?  On another level, if the website’s ’location’ (offices and/or data servers) is outside of Utah, would that constitute interstate commerce and make it a federal issue?  

The interwebs are creating a lot of legal situations that didn’t seem to imaginable 50 years ago…..

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5/3/2026 1:49pm
Beta480RX wrote:
I don't use a VPN, but my phone thinks I'm in Colorado all the time.Even when I'm in Utah, as long as I don't enable location...

I don't use a VPN, but my phone thinks I'm in Colorado all the time.

Even when I'm in Utah, as long as I don't enable location services in my phone or log on using local wifi my phone still thinks I'm in Aurora, CO.

Pain in the A when I'm trying to find crap in say a Home Depot and when I get on the website I have to change location every time manually. But I'd rather it be just a smidgen harder on the man to track me than enable my location. Not that they can't already, just makes me feel better about it.

 

That happened to me when I used a phone supplied by my employer. All location services were turned on, and my phone number was a local area code and prefix. Even with that, most websites put my location in Pennsylvania, where our corporate offices were located. 

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5/3/2026 2:10pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:

How are they going to police that, and how many people and dollars?

APLMAN99 wrote:
That’s pretty much what I’m asking. How will it work out in the real world?  I think I understand the article on a basic level, and...

That’s pretty much what I’m asking. How will it work out in the real world?  I think I understand the article on a basic level, and it sounds like the websites who could be held liable don’t really have a good way to know if the connection is coming through a VPN or not most of the time. 

Is this mostly symbolic ‘make voters think we’re doing something’ type of legislation?  On another level, if the website’s ’location’ (offices and/or data servers) is outside of Utah, would that constitute interstate commerce and make it a federal issue?  

The interwebs are creating a lot of legal situations that didn’t seem to imaginable 50 years ago…..

Websites can pretty easily tell if you are on a VPN. At least that is what I understand. Most of them couldn't care less..........until now. At least in Utah. It still doesn't seem like it would be easily enforceable but maybe a Vitard with knowledge in this shit will show up and explain it to us ludites. 

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5/3/2026 4:26pm

Hilariously unenforceable garbage.

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:

How are they going to police that, and how many people and dollars?

APLMAN99 wrote:
That’s pretty much what I’m asking. How will it work out in the real world?  I think I understand the article on a basic level, and...

That’s pretty much what I’m asking. How will it work out in the real world?  I think I understand the article on a basic level, and it sounds like the websites who could be held liable don’t really have a good way to know if the connection is coming through a VPN or not most of the time. 

Is this mostly symbolic ‘make voters think we’re doing something’ type of legislation?  On another level, if the website’s ’location’ (offices and/or data servers) is outside of Utah, would that constitute interstate commerce and make it a federal issue?  

The interwebs are creating a lot of legal situations that didn’t seem to imaginable 50 years ago…..

borg wrote:
Websites can pretty easily tell if you are on a VPN. At least that is what I understand. Most of them couldn't care less..........until now. At...

Websites can pretty easily tell if you are on a VPN. At least that is what I understand. Most of them couldn't care less..........until now. At least in Utah. It still doesn't seem like it would be easily enforceable but maybe a Vitard with knowledge in this shit will show up and explain it to us ludites. 

"explain it to us ludites."..... Props for the Luddite reference, many in here might need some expanded help with it though. ;o)

 

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5/15/2026 5:05am

 they’re serious about not watching porn anonymously 😂  

 

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5/15/2026 7:07am
APLMAN99 wrote:
That’s pretty much what I’m asking. How will it work out in the real world?  I think I understand the article on a basic level, and...

That’s pretty much what I’m asking. How will it work out in the real world?  I think I understand the article on a basic level, and it sounds like the websites who could be held liable don’t really have a good way to know if the connection is coming through a VPN or not most of the time. 

Is this mostly symbolic ‘make voters think we’re doing something’ type of legislation?  On another level, if the website’s ’location’ (offices and/or data servers) is outside of Utah, would that constitute interstate commerce and make it a federal issue?  

The interwebs are creating a lot of legal situations that didn’t seem to imaginable 50 years ago…..

borg wrote:
Websites can pretty easily tell if you are on a VPN. At least that is what I understand. Most of them couldn't care less..........until now. At...

Websites can pretty easily tell if you are on a VPN. At least that is what I understand. Most of them couldn't care less..........until now. At least in Utah. It still doesn't seem like it would be easily enforceable but maybe a Vitard with knowledge in this shit will show up and explain it to us ludites. 

"explain it to us ludites."..... Props for the Luddite reference, many in here might need some expanded help with it though. ;o)

 

What's funny about that is that I was programming in assembly back in the early 80's. I have lost touch with current computer technology though. Don't care about the nuts and bolts the way I used to. I just want it to work. And disappointed very often. 

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