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Anecdotally, my experience in higher education has been that the further you get along, the more batshit the lefties get. Conservatives tend to lay low and stay out of the activism, but you can usually spot them anyway.
Serious cope? Nah not really that affected by it
Yeah not real sure how you jumped to me making those conclusions but I'll say again, not denying he got hit by something that caused him to bleed just saying I doubt it was a bullet that so neatly knicked his ear that it didn't cause any permanent damage..
I think they took the opportunity they were given to exaggerate.
What nicked his ear then.
Trump's sharp wit?
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No idea.. Maybe some sort of shrapnel from the teleprompter or something
Why do you find this so hard to believe? I've seen graze wounds that don't even draw blood and leave more of a burn streak over the skin. Even a through and through rifle round to ear isn't even going to slow down and unload energy. The wound isn't likely to be that impressive.
Not sure what the medical record is going to tell you? No matter what caused the injury it's going to be documented more or less the same. It's not like it's going to say "rifle round to the ear" even if that's exactly what it was. Puncture, laceration, abrasion.... it's not going to tell you much....
People not talking openly about tragic events is pretty normal. Not a lot of fun to relive the bad days.
Your explanations of your doubts are telling on you more than you realize. There's nothing about the circumstances that should cause you to lean towards conspiracy unless that's your starting point and all facts are interpreted in light of that.
I think You missed my point. Using Your analogy It would be like me telling the person who asked me if it was raining, that I was going to wait until I could take a look out the window or confirm that it did indeed rain instead of assuming anything.
My point is that people are quick to jump to conclusions that align with their own bias, tehn people take the speculation and then stuff spreads like the old telephone game. People read it as fact instead of speculation and then extrapolate things that were not even speculated on, nevermind having been reported as facts.
I posted that when even Todd Blanch was still only speculating about who the target was. Media is constantly demonized by Trump. And that it was also a legit possibility that they could have been a target .I was trying to show why speculation about the target isn't a good idea and I thought that showing a reasonable plausibly other possible target would help people see why I thought it was a bad Idea to jump to conclusions. And by the replies I see that some people took it the way I intended.
If You can not see that both Trump and the media as well as Democrats, are all guilty of demonizing each other , than I am sorry to say that You might just be in a herd Yourself.
Why do I find it so hard to believe? A bullet from high powered gun fired from a long way away slightly grazed an ear badly enough that it required a huge dressing for days but then left zero evidence of any damage.. Ear cartilage doesn't grow back
My explanations of my doubts are telling on me? What, that I question things that don't make sense to me? Oh no..
I don't think accusing a political party of exaggerating a circumstance that would benefit them in the lead up to an election is exactly a conspiracy haha
Ok, yeah. That’s cope. You don’t want to believe Trump was hit by a bullet. Here’s a tweet from another guy that felt the same way. His name is Cole Allen, and he was arrested Saturday for shooting up the White House correspondents dinner.
Aaaah yeah ok, sure
You ok?
I highly doubt that you have gotten close enough to his ear to make an honest assessment of his ear. You’re like the nut jobs saying drones flew into the towers because they couldn’t see windows. 😂
That's a decent thing to say to someone you've had absolutely no interactions with..
Sorry I hurt your feelings.
It's cool I know you guys have gotta jump on the defense and prove how tough you are at every opportunity.. I get it
And yet we have no history of conservatives trying to gun down the media for their lies. So while you can come up with alternate scenarios, with no valid reason for such. When you evaluate the information available, and try to narrow down what and why, who turned out to evaluate the available information correctly?
Score board: squatch 0, TM 1
So if evaluating information, and applying past information that leads to the most logical explanation along with other people, and you interpret that as following the herd. Maybe it's leading the herd. But if we're going to put out unlikely scenarios, did you consider the possibility that it was a plumber that didn't get paid for his services and wanted to damage the hotel reputation? Because that's possible too.
TM nui
You started off saying “not really affected by it” then got into an argument with three different people lol
Argument?
One guy asked me a question
and the other called me a nut job
Pit Row
One guy asked me a question
and the other called me a nut job
Sounds like the first line of a good joke.
This is starting to get off topic but...
Regarding US citizens gunning down fellow US citizens, red states absolutely lead the herd. It is clear you are under no influence of media, mainstream or not. Any chance you can post where you read the statistics you spoke of in this thread? Sounds like others saw similar on Fox News, which is why I ask. Here is a tidbit for ya, you can package statistics to provide ammo for whatever narrative you are trying to communicate. I see this happen all the time in my line of work.
I am happy to be proven wrong, eat crow, etc. when information is presented that suggests my beliefs, opinion, and/or understanding of something may be off base. Are you able to honestly say the same to yourself?
Stats below straight from Congress.
Source:
https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/115608/documents/HHRG-118-GO00-20230329-SD008.pdf
EDIT - Respectfully, from the outside looking in at the comments you post here, it appears you're following a programmed toolpath quite well. My apologies for singling you out. We are all guilty of this, some more than others.
I'm sorry but you sound like a fucking weirdo. What difference does it make if it was a bullet or shrapnel from a bullet?
Things do make sense if you haven't already decided that they don't make sense. Sorry, this one just annoys me.... there's nothing objectively off about anything here but there's no convincing some people.....
Cartilage doesn't grow back but you can oppose the edges and repair the overlying skin pretty easily. It was a 5.56 round.... how big of a hole do you think it leaves? And that's assuming it wasn't a graze wound.
Look at the pictures.... looks like entry could have been under helix and exit out the back. Once the skin is healed, even if there is a hole in cartilage, it is likely not going to be apparent to the naked eye.
Really? You’re an idiot.
https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/report/the-red-state-murder-problem-becomes-the-blue-county-murder-problem
I sound like a fucking weirdo? How low is your bar?
What difference does it make? Really?
I've just said I don't really believe one thing and all you good boys have come in and got all emotional about someone saying slightly negative about your dear leader..
You said something retarded.
An interesting comparison and spin on the original. I don't disagree with their position at the rate at the county level. I think we can all agree that more populated counties, cities, etc. historically lean blue.
As I said, you can present statistics in all sorts of ways to communicate a message and/or narrative. We can agree to disagree and I won't lose sleep over it.
It would be even more interesting to analyze the data at the individual voter level if we choose to get even more granular.
I think we know where Heritage Foundation stands politically, so their take makes complete sense. The source I posted from, is historically pretty central and tries to be critical of both sides.
Admittedly, I applaud the current administration for keeping what I posted up and available.
EDIT - This caught my attention in their rational for why the original report was flawed and needed correcting;
However, drawing conclusions from state-level homicide data in such a manner is flawed, as each state consists of a combination of federal, state, county, and local law enforcement agencies, as well as prosecutors with different approaches to law enforcement often based on highly divergent political beliefs.
I don't exactly follow this argument? Murder is murder, and documented as such, no?
See this is how adults interact.. Or things don't make sense unless you've already decided they do make sense haha..
You say they can repair it but that would require surgery no? Again, honest question..
I have never seen those pictures and they do show it better than I've seen, honestly I don't know if I'm seeing a hole or something that looks like a hole.. I'm still not totally convinced the angles work but I hope that doesn't offend anyone enough to call me names haha..
As I said even IF I'm right OR the bullet didn't go near him.. What happened was shocking and scary enough
I honestly didn't think I was saying anything that was gonna upset so many people.. I'll try to leave it, but I probably won't let people call me names though haha
I think you might be a fuckwit
*four different people
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