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Canceled again…..sounds like the US may start military action again.
What a joke.
I think it may be that they don’t have a clear leader. If their leadership is splintered into a couple or a few groups, who do you negotiate with?!
Why would Iran meet with 2 civilians from the USA?
Iranians know talking is a waste of time. Our representatives are not even real officials but a couple of real-estate salesmen. Would you want to deal with that? Clown show.
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I think it could be that they have said they wanted to meet with the VP. And they have also said that Trump's public statements during the negotiating has caused Iran to withdraw from talking too.
The leadership may be splintered , but there has been a ceasefire for a while that was negotiated with somebody over there that had the ability to get the message to their troops. They still have the same people negotiating for them right? They could still meet and talk if it was a leadership issue. They just may have trouble finalizing any agreement. I heard it reported that the Iranians are not able to communicate with leadership during the negotiations because they are afraid to use a cell phone and expose the locations.Its been that way in recent negotiations . So that's not a new problem. It could be a part of the problem. But those other things I listed in my first couple sentences have been reported as reasons for past meetings being cancelled.
I hope that things can change and some sort of agreement can be made that stops the war.
The hard liner muslim wackjobs are in charge and they will let the average Iranian starve to death before they will bend a knee to a kafir. There is no 'negotiate' in those religious kooks.
Only thing that will work is to kill 'em. Seriously. Dont shoot the messenger.
One of the most honest statements here or anywhere.
That's why we didn't want to reboot the endless war, because those fuckers are crazy. If you want to kill them all, that's fine, but then you're basically Hitler and the entire world will be against you. War is ugly and messy, which Trump has already killed over a hundred children just from that one school, and that shit justifiably breeds generations of a deep hatred, because families kinda take offense when you murder their children. We were supposed to have known better and that's how Trump won over the swing voters, by shaming Dubya for lying about WMD's and kicking off decades of massive mess of death and debt.
Also, we don't need to manufacture excuses for the president. He said they didn't make a satisfactory offer. If the cancellation were because Iran were disorganized morons, he would have happily said so.
Youre not wrong on this post. But you have to admit these same wackadoodles we are all referencing were on the brink of having weapons grade stuff. If they would kill untold amounts of their own citizens for dissent, what would they do if they wielded a sword of that magnitude.
So yeah, its easy to cite all the truths you did so well in your post, but what IS a good way to death with these maniacs? Please dont tell me its to send more pallets of cash.
But again lots of truth in what you said.
Definitely not cash, Jesus fuck that's something I hate about Democrats lol. Since we'd fully deserved to be nuked into oblivion if we tried any mass killings, I think the old agreement with more nuts is the answer. Iran gives you full access to everything and you can go wherever you want whenever you want, or else you shoot anyone standing in your way.
It looks like it gone that direction.
Honestly, I see no other course other than what you said. If anyone has a reasonable and better idea, post it up. The good Iranian folks who want this regime gone, need help and are suffering.
I will say, however, at least Trump is trying. Better or worse, mistakes and all. All the rest of the prior spineless hacks in the Oval office just kicked the can, lined their pockets while in office, and split with a platinum parachute.
You’re on fire tonight 92!💯
Trump campaigned on not getting involved in these types of no win international fuck ups.
More whack than Trump? That’s hard to believe
And the shit show continues...
What does “success” look like? I stay off social media (except Vital) and do not know what the Trump admin is requesting. Any details would be welcomed.
All the enriched uranium for sure, probably control of the strait.
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So he gets into office, gets intel of what level their enrichment is and he is supposed to ignore that and let the goat fuckers have a nuke?
God Im glad you are not in charge of anything that affects my life.
Trump had a huge decision to make and he chose to intervene and try be a real leader and do something about this huge problem. You DO understand what nukes do, right? How fallout works and how long it stays? How these people have zero scruples and will kill people for even drawing a picture? They are religious maniacs who do not think like rational regular human beings. You HAVE to intervene.
The rational, intelligent liberals here on VMX acknowledge this had to be addressed and dont fault Trump for acting. (hell all the muslim countries in that area are applauding Trump for working to decimate this regime who has fucked things up for 47 years) The only debate now is the best way to wrap this up. And if you sir, have a good plan, would love to hear it. Parroting your TDS talking points is very telling.
So many of the nay sayers seem to forget all the shit the Islamic Republic of Iran has thrown at the world since ‘79.
They probably can’t even tell you about the Iranian Hostage Crisis (‘79-‘81…66 people…). Yiu think they remember “The Imam’s Line”…? The OG “Ayatollah Khomeini”?
They sure as hell don’t seem to acknowledge that The Islamic Republic of Iran is the reason that Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis exist and have killed so many. They seem to have forgotten the THOUSANDS of rockets and missiles and deaths that these crazies are responsible for over THE DECADES since this all began.
That’s ok.
We remember.
That was the problem with old agreement. Iran was never going to allow inspections of their nuclear sites anytime. anywhere without weeks maybe months prior notice and certainly not go where wherever they wanted. Great idea in theory, but never going to happen.
But, Apl says the IAEA was able to see EVERYTHING & that the agreement was solid…and…
It was working!
Allow..? They're not allowing us to bomb them, yet here we are. If you actually enforce inspections, then it doesn't matter what they allow, you just do it anyway and stack resistance like logs. Otherwise what's the current strategy? That we don't trust them to not make nukes, so we'll bomb them until they seem trustworthy? There is no scenario where we don't have ful access in person. This current approach is lazy and doomed to be repetitive. We think we'll just set them back and then we'll just forget about it for a while....until the next time. We just needed to actually enforce the old agreements, not quit and expect them to suddenly become more trustworthy with less oversight. That was an absurd expectation on our part.
"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." -MLK Jr.
Nukes are concerning for sure. Let's keep in mind we (The US) are still the only country to ever use nuclear weapons in armed conflict.
To me, the more focus of concern should be the rapid development of AI agents, and how quickly we are pairing this with armed conflict. These agents are already functioning in ways we can no longer understand, are shown to be incredibly deceitful and manipulative (and are incredibly good at getting away with it), and there is a very small group of humans overseeing this. There is very little transparency, and virtually zero guardrails. It's the nuclear arms race all over again (between US and China currently), but there is a new alien intelligence at the helm. Humans are ignorantly guiding ourselves out of existence if we don't make some pretty significant and rapid adjustments to the course we are currently on. What happens when the goals of these AI agents are no longer aligned with those of humanity?
Consider how significant the influence that social media algorithms and AI agents have already had on the deceit and division amongst us humans already. It could go really well, or it could go really, really bad. How geopolitical trends are currently going, the latter seems more likely if we don't change course.
Good post. We need to stop thinking in absolute terms (i.e. conventional warfare will lead to victory) and understand a nation’s ability to respond via “soft” technologies (AI, malware, chemical). These weapons should be much more concerning than nuclear as they are utilized daily while an atomic weapon has not been deployed in battle since 1945.
Iran undoubtedly has soft weapons at their disposal. A synchronized attack could potentially bring Wall Street to its knees. And if these are the irrational zealots as labeled above, what prevents them from using such tactics, if their own survival is deemed meaningless?
Why were there enrichment levels so high? Was it because we tore up the agreement that was in place?
How do you imagine this ending? Total regime change (that they told us wasn’t the goal when it all started?). That’s worked so well before.
We fucked up tearing up the agreement, and we fucked up going into Iran. Regardless of HOW effective the agreement was, having something in place and having access to facilities is better then where we stand now.
If the intel suggested the war was justified, then let's finish the mission. But I don't know how we can finish the mission with the current stalemate and the arrogance of Iran's current leadership. Troops on the ground? More intense bombing? It could be a long-drawn-out campaign, and in the past, Congress and Americans in general have not shown support for these. It also does not seem the Iranian people are in support of regime change or it could be their voices are getting censored by the crazy Ayotallahs. Either way, I'm not optimistic the Iranian's will be free but I can hope.
I'm still hopeful for peace negotiations and a quick resolution to this thing. Having a more stable Iran without nuclear ambitions is a positive; it's just the means to get there at this point are tricky. My two cents.
Iranian citizens who were protesting tells me that they do want a regime change. And it’s not hard to figure out why, after the regime killed thousands of those who were protesting. Who knows how this is going to play out .
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