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This weekend was his expected return, typically kawi will do an official announcement on Thursday if he is for sure in or out again.
The battle for 6th has really died down without him
Winning this weekend…found something new at the test track…that broc guy been working hard…stamp it
I think you mean "RV has been working hard"
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Idk…RV was total opposite style from Sexton…..rear wheel steer guy vs heavy front end guy?
The Kawasakis have always seemed to favor steering with the rear wheel...and maybe RV has been schooling Sexton on changing his habits.
I gotta say. I slightly question the philosophy of having a guy who’s never won a 450 main testing a bike for a racer who’s expected to win titles, let alone races. You think about Canard at Honda, he’s won multiple races and was a consistent podium threat on a 450. How is Broc supposed to know what it takes from the bike to win as someone who was only on the podium one time? I’m just not sure the logic makes sense to me. It really hasn’t seemed to make a positive difference on the outside.
Exactly! That's why they got RV back, to show Chase how to ride the damn bike correctly since its changed 2% since RV last rode one 11 years ago.
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not.
Got it….hopefully Chase is ready to come back….he can win at given time….
All Kawi did to get RV comfortable was pull out his 2014 Kawi and told him he’s not allowed to touch it lol heard he’s hauling ass on it too 🤣🤣🤣
I heard the pace Rv is going at the test track he will be filling in for Chase. Watch Saturday.
Way off base here bud…..RV has zero to do with the race team and is NOT doing any testing for Chase….
It would be better if he was trolling but sad part is, he is that stupid.😎
He doesn’t test to decide the specs of the bike dude. Just the parts that are available to go on the bike. The rider then chooses which part to use based on Broc’s feedback as to how they impact the bike’s performance. Pretty sure the vast majority of the riders employed by the factories and teams aren’t championship level riders. Plenty of championship guys suck at testing.
Best coaches ain’t always the best players and vice versa
Chiz has been a huge help to Roczen.
The only thing Chiz has won is our hearts
I hope not. We’re trying to get rid of lappers not add them.
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There is some really bad information in this thread. Usual Suspects
Tickle has a bunch of 450 podiums indoors and out, plus a 250 title. He's more than qualified to test bikes for Chase.
Tickle's job is to weed thru the fluff and choose the best 10 (just to throw out a number) that Chase can select from. Chase's job is to pick what is best for HIM. If Chase doesn't like those 10, rinse and repeat...It would seem from all the random stuff they have thrown on Chase's bike that Chase himself doesn't know what he likes, or what direction to go. Chases problem is exactly that : Chase's Problem
Then, wouldn’t it be more efficient to have a test rider who has a style/rider profile similar to the racer? Not knocking Tickle in any way.
He should pull up his pants first.
He has one single podium on a 450 indoors according to the vault. Toronto 2017...
I'm not saying anything regarding Chase's setup issue is Broc's fault. My question is, if you were trying to become the lead performer at your job, would you seek the advice of someone who has not only never been the lead performer at your job, but has only been top 3 once? To go back to Honda, they have a proven race winner testing their bike for proven race winners. I don't know how you can look at that and not question whether Kawi's philosophy to use Broc as a test rider is 100% sound. The logic is at least worth a question.
I'd say Tickle is close in weight, good at being a test rider (that is his JOB, for years), and fast enough to qualify to get in to a SX, if he got back in that kind of race shape. Do you know enough about Tickle to say that his riding style is notably different than Chase's? (honest question)
Besides Honda, who are the other team test riders?
EDIT: this was for the previous response..
Some of these responses are worse than the facebook Doon Goons
By that logic, keefer, Doug Dubach and almost every other test rider doesn’t know what they’re talking about either then. You don’t have to have elite championship contender speed to be able to feel positive or negative changes made on a bike.
If you are a runner and having trouble with your shoes, you wouldn't try and fix it by going to another runner, you would go directly to NIKE... To the engineer, to the expert in the technological component you need fixing.
A bike is a technological component. A test rider is, or should be, an expert in evaluating the technological components characteristics and how they would apply to the lead rider. They don't need to be at the razors edge in speed or even rider with identical style to be able to evaluate and make recommendations.
A big is made by a bunch of engineers many of who would never have jumped a bike or ridden on a motocros track. But their specialty is solving engineering problems for riders needs, not riding themselves.
Trey may be a great test rider, but Honda have had this bike for a long time and still 8 weeks into supercross Hunta had to spend multiple days testing... so what does that really say about Trey? It says that at best he can move things towards the ballpark but even after months and months and months of riding and testing by Trey and the racer he is testing for, it will still need more testing... Same thing with Chiz and Roczen. No real difference there...
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