MXGP pre-season, national championships and international races

Robgvx wrote:

Re a GP at Hawkstone, I was told that it’s the sanction fee that is the problem. Access, infrastructure etc are all resolvable, but not the...

Re a GP at Hawkstone, I was told that it’s the sanction fee that is the problem. Access, infrastructure etc are all resolvable, but not the Infront $$.

Robgvx wrote:

Re a GP at Hawkstone, I was told that it’s the sanction fee that is the problem. Access, infrastructure etc are all resolvable, but not the...

Re a GP at Hawkstone, I was told that it’s the sanction fee that is the problem. Access, infrastructure etc are all resolvable, but not the Infront $$.

Snapper wrote:

Unless they build a new, two-lane road that's wide and straight enough to get the team trucks in and out easily, then access isn't really resolvable...

Unless they build a new, two-lane road that's wide and straight enough to get the team trucks in and out easily, then access isn't really resolvable is it...

Robgvx wrote:

Re a GP at Hawkstone, I was told that it’s the sanction fee that is the problem. Access, infrastructure etc are all resolvable, but not the...

Re a GP at Hawkstone, I was told that it’s the sanction fee that is the problem. Access, infrastructure etc are all resolvable, but not the Infront $$.

Snapper wrote:

Unless they build a new, two-lane road that's wide and straight enough to get the team trucks in and out easily, then access isn't really resolvable...

Unless they build a new, two-lane road that's wide and straight enough to get the team trucks in and out easily, then access isn't really resolvable is it...

Robgvx wrote:

Re a GP at Hawkstone, I was told that it’s the sanction fee that is the problem. Access, infrastructure etc are all resolvable, but not the...

Re a GP at Hawkstone, I was told that it’s the sanction fee that is the problem. Access, infrastructure etc are all resolvable, but not the Infront $$.

Snapper wrote:

Unless they build a new, two-lane road that's wide and straight enough to get the team trucks in and out easily, then access isn't really resolvable...

Unless they build a new, two-lane road that's wide and straight enough to get the team trucks in and out easily, then access isn't really resolvable is it...

DeStouwer wrote:

Valence gets postponed to Feb 15th due to heavy rains the past days. The track is flooded.

philG wrote:

Be interesting to see who goes there, and who comes to Hawkstone. 

IMO , once your date has gone, its gone. 

 

THE mx addict wrote:

The two start lists were totally different. So I guess it wont be a problem.

OwenJakes wrote:

dont flame me. Sexton is on that poster. Is there going to be some kind of overseas sexton sighting?

philG wrote:

Brian HSU  in MX1  . I was wondering what had happened to him. We have Davy Pootjes in MX1 for the Motul British, him and Hsu came...

Brian HSU  in MX1  . I was wondering what had happened to him. 

We have Davy Pootjes in MX1 for the Motul British, him and Hsu came through together but never made an impact ( other than on the ground)  in MX2 after both being touted as the 'next big things' . 

philG wrote:

I looked for start list for Valence before i posted and didnt find one. Its not uncommon,  i remember Beaucaire in the South of France being a...

I looked for start list for Valence before i posted and didnt find one. 

Its not uncommon,  i remember Beaucaire in the South of France being a regular early season race back in the day, that ended up going away because of the weather killed in 2 years in a row. 

When the GP season didnt start stupidly early, National championships would probably have had 2 rounds before the first GP's but now it is way too risky to run races that early in the season , that are Championship related. 

philG wrote:

I looked for start list for Valence before i posted and didnt find one. Its not uncommon,  i remember Beaucaire in the South of France being a...

I looked for start list for Valence before i posted and didnt find one. 

Its not uncommon,  i remember Beaucaire in the South of France being a regular early season race back in the day, that ended up going away because of the weather killed in 2 years in a row. 

When the GP season didnt start stupidly early, National championships would probably have had 2 rounds before the first GP's but now it is way too risky to run races that early in the season , that are Championship related. 

THE mx addict wrote:

Concerning Beaucaire international race, I think you're mistaken about the reason that ended the event in the early 2000's (last edition was 2002). It has nothing...

Concerning Beaucaire international race, I think you're mistaken about the reason that ended the event in the early 2000's (last edition was 2002). It has nothing to do with the weather (It was already Valence International race who struggled a few times with those bad conditions though). The only one year Beaucaire suffered very bad weather during the 90's was 1993 for the french 250cc GP.

philG wrote:

I know we were going to go one year and it didnt run ( i think) , what was the reason for it stopping ? 

DeStouwer wrote:

Valence gets postponed to Feb 15th due to heavy rains the past days. The track is flooded.

DeStouwer wrote:

Entries for Alghero:125cc5 Luca Daziano Yamaha22 Andrea Martelli Yamaha29 Jannes Vos KTM40 Travis Leok Husqvarna MX-Handel Husqvarna Racing42 Omar Guerra Yamaha61 Nicola Bruni GasGas65...

Entries for Alghero:

125cc

5 Luca Daziano Yamaha

22 Andrea Martelli Yamaha

29 Jannes Vos KTM

40 Travis Leok Husqvarna MX-Handel Husqvarna Racing

42 Omar Guerra Yamaha

61 Nicola Bruni GasGas

65 Francesco Assini Yamaha

71 Bertram Thorius Fantic Fantic Factory Racing EMX125

101 Gioele Andriollo Yamaha

111 Lucas Leok KTM

161 Torre Van Mechgelen Yamaha De Baets AIT Racing Team

195 Mattia Giuliani KTM Mapimoto Racing Team

205 Raffaele Frappa KTM Dreams Racing

209 Diego Spitaleri KTM

211 Riccardo Pini TM TM Moto/MCV Motorsport

223 Emil Ziemer KTM Motobike Racing Team

246 Giorgio Verderosa TM MCR Racing Team

252 Márk Szőke KTM

275 Edoardo Riganti Yamaha Manetta Team

281 David Cracco KTM Dreams Racing

288 Marco Campoduni KTM

292 Ricardo Bauer KTM Racestore KTM Factory Rookies

306 Lapo Aglietti Husqvarna Endurance MX

311 Leonardo Calandra Yamaha

320 Francesco Quintili TM Team Seven Motorsport

353 Andrea Uccellini TM TM Moto CRD Motosport

391 Luis Raoul Santeusanio Yamaha

451 Melker Larsson Husqvarna

511Tony Oliveira GasGas

522 Gerwin Heuver Fantic

617 Arnaud de Booij KTM

627 Marten Aus KTM

737 Luca Colonnelli KTM Dreams Racing

742 Enri Lustus Husqvarna

747 Spartaco Pitanti Fantic Johannes-Bikes

775 Marten Raud Husqvarna

777 Cristian Amali TM

828 Samuele Piredda KTM

911 Gennaro Utech Fantic Fantic Factory Racing EMX125

929 Moritz Ernecker KTM Racestore KTM Factory Rookies

936 Alceste Marco Pallotta KTM 

MX2

4 Douwe Van Mechgelen TM Team Seven Motorsport

5 Brando Rispoli Beta MRT Racing Team Beta

7 Niccolò Mannini Honda Maddii Racing Honda – ABF Italia

10 Giorgio Macrì Honda

12 Luca Rosati TM

14 Sebastian Leok Husqvarna MX-Handel Husqvarna Racing

19 Sacha Coenen KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing

21 Romeo Pikand Triumph Triumph AQVA Racing

25 Alessandro Sadovschi Husqvarna Max Bart Motorsports

27 Simon Längenfelder KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing

28 Marc-Antoine Rossi Honda Maddii Racing Honda – ABF Italia

39 Áron Katona KTM Van Venrooy KTM Racing

47 Kārlis Reišulis Yamaha Monster Energy Yamaha Factory Racing MX2

58 Andrea Roberti KTM Racestore KTM Factory Rookies

63 Jaka Peklaj Husqvarna Peklaj Husqvarna Racing Team

71 Morgan Bennati Triumph FlyOver Competition MX

73 Ferruccio Zanchi Ducati Beddini Racing Ducati Corse Factory MX2 Team

97 Simone Mancini Ducati Beddini Racing Ducati Corse Factory MX2 Team

99 Alessandro Gaspari KTM Young Motion powered by Resa

102 Filippo Mantovani KTM MTA MX Racing

110 Richard Paat KTM Mehka KTM/110 Racing/Skawen

116 Alberto Brida Honda

134 Iacopo Fabbri Honda Pedica Racing Team

172 Cas Valk TM TM Moto CRD Motorsport Factory Racing Team

194 Vilho Vehvilainen KTM

228 Michael Conte Yamaha MJC Team

240 César Paine Díaz Husqvarna Max Bart Motorsports

321 Alessandro Traversini KTM

329 Maurizio Scollo KTM Ghidinelli Racing Team

336 Lorenzo Aglietti Husqvarna Max Bart Motorsports

364 Mattia Nardo Beta

392 Davide Zanone Beta Favro Moto

408 Scott Smulders Husqvarna SixtySeven Racing Team

456 Ollie Colmer KTM Chambers KTM Racing

480 Kasimir Hindersson KTM East MX

574 Gyan Doensen KTM Gabriel SS24 KTM

595 Eliël Lehtinen KTM KTM Nordic

611 Markuss Kokins GasGas Rodeo Racing Team

612 Joosep Pärn GasGas Pol Motors

669 Luca Ruffini Husqvarna Diana MX Team

712 Toni Ziemer KTM

716 Noel Zanócz KTM Van Venrooy KTM Racing

717 Alexis Fueri Beta MRT Racing Team Beta

731 Damian Zdunek KTM

772 Jānis Reišulis Yamaha Monster Energy Yamaha Factory Racing MX2

831 Paolo Martorano KTM

919 Maximilian Ernecker KTM SixtySeven Racing Team

920 Luca Moro Honda Bartolini Racing Team

928 Vincenzo Bove GasGas A.B. Racing Team

MXGP

3 Federico Tuani Honda FM CAMI Racing Team

5 Lucas Coenen KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing

8 Jakub Kowalski Yamaha

10 Calvin Vlaanderen Ducati Ducati Factory Racing MXGP

11 Giacomo Bosi GasGas

23 Tommaso Sarasso Yamaha 55 R.S. Racing Team

32 Brent Van Doninck Fantic Fantic Factory Racing MXGP

39 Roan van de Moosdijk KTM KTM Kosak Team

80 Andrea Adamo KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing

81 Brian Hsu Honda FM CAMI Racing Team

83 Oriol Oliver KTM Gabriel SS24 KTM

91 Jeremy Seewer Ducati Ducati Factory Racing MXGP

93 Jago Geerts Beta MRT Racing Team Beta

101 Mattia Guadagnini KTM Van Venrooy KTM Racing

132 Andrea Bonacorsi Ducati Ducati Factory Racing MXGP

174 Alessandro Valeri Honda Pedica Racing Team

180 Leopold Ambjörnsson Honda Team Leoparden Racing

211 Nicholas Lapucci Honda Millionaire Racing Team

243 Tim Gajser Yamaha Monster Energy Yamaha Factory MXGP Team

253 Jan Pancar KTM TEM JP253 KTM Racing Team

261 Jörgen-Matthias Talviku Yamaha JMT EstTrans Yamaha Keskus Racing Team

303 Alberto Forato Fantic Fantic Factory Racing MXGP

308 Lorenzo Albieri Husqvarna 3zero8 Motorsport

499 Emanuele Alberio Husqvarna AK MDR Motocross Team

521 Boris Blanken KTM Team Care Innovation Racing

821 Nathan Mariani Honda Bartolini Racing Team

841 Robert Fobbe Kawasaki Laurense Motors

891 Paul Ullrich Kawasaki SAS Kawasaki

974 Mario Tamai GasGas A.B. Racing Team

Rapo-X wrote:

No more #96 for Lucas Coenen?

Rapo-X wrote:

No more #96 for Lucas Coenen?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

philG wrote:

I looked for start list for Valence before i posted and didnt find one. Its not uncommon,  i remember Beaucaire in the South of France being a...

I looked for start list for Valence before i posted and didnt find one. 

Its not uncommon,  i remember Beaucaire in the South of France being a regular early season race back in the day, that ended up going away because of the weather killed in 2 years in a row. 

When the GP season didnt start stupidly early, National championships would probably have had 2 rounds before the first GP's but now it is way too risky to run races that early in the season , that are Championship related. 

philG wrote:

I looked for start list for Valence before i posted and didnt find one. Its not uncommon,  i remember Beaucaire in the South of France being a...

I looked for start list for Valence before i posted and didnt find one. 

Its not uncommon,  i remember Beaucaire in the South of France being a regular early season race back in the day, that ended up going away because of the weather killed in 2 years in a row. 

When the GP season didnt start stupidly early, National championships would probably have had 2 rounds before the first GP's but now it is way too risky to run races that early in the season , that are Championship related. 

THE mx addict wrote:

Concerning Beaucaire international race, I think you're mistaken about the reason that ended the event in the early 2000's (last edition was 2002). It has nothing...

Concerning Beaucaire international race, I think you're mistaken about the reason that ended the event in the early 2000's (last edition was 2002). It has nothing to do with the weather (It was already Valence International race who struggled a few times with those bad conditions though). The only one year Beaucaire suffered very bad weather during the 90's was 1993 for the french 250cc GP.

philG wrote:

I know we were going to go one year and it didnt run ( i think) , what was the reason for it stopping ? 

philG wrote:

I looked for start list for Valence before i posted and didnt find one. Its not uncommon,  i remember Beaucaire in the South of France being a...

I looked for start list for Valence before i posted and didnt find one. 

Its not uncommon,  i remember Beaucaire in the South of France being a regular early season race back in the day, that ended up going away because of the weather killed in 2 years in a row. 

When the GP season didnt start stupidly early, National championships would probably have had 2 rounds before the first GP's but now it is way too risky to run races that early in the season , that are Championship related. 

Bearuno wrote:

philG : I just want to know if Bazza will be there, on either his '87 or '89 CR500 :I've posted this picture many times, but...

philG : I just want to know if Bazza will be there, on either his '87 or '89 CR500 :

I've posted this picture many times, but I truly love the looks from the Husky Mechanics, the Camera bloke, and Paulin, as Barry Turnbull pushes his '87 into the pre grid area.

He hasn't been there the last couple of years, I think - at least on an Old Beast.

Are they going up The (long) Hill this year?

 

THE mx addict wrote:

Concerning Beaucaire international race, I think you're mistaken about the reason that ended the event in the early 2000's (last edition was 2002). It has nothing...

Concerning Beaucaire international race, I think you're mistaken about the reason that ended the event in the early 2000's (last edition was 2002). It has nothing to do with the weather (It was already Valence International race who struggled a few times with those bad conditions though). The only one year Beaucaire suffered very bad weather during the 90's was 1993 for the french 250cc GP.

philG wrote:

I know we were going to go one year and it didnt run ( i think) , what was the reason for it stopping ? 

Xavier wrote:

Tax reasons. The government claimed that the start money for the top riders was indeed a salary and if you implement the heavy French employment taxes...

Tax reasons. The government claimed that the start money for the top riders was indeed a salary and if you implement the heavy French employment taxes to that start money, it almost doubles the cost. The result has been the killing of the (then) numerous French international MX meetings. 

Bearuno wrote:

What was the name of the French Pre-Season race that the venue started with a 'B', that had the reputation that those who won it, wouldn't...

What was the name of the French Pre-Season race that the venue started with a 'B', that had the reputation that those who won it, wouldn't win the 500CC World Championships?

Though, perhaps Eric Geboers   broke that jinx?

I don't think it was Beaucaire, but, could be wrong.

Robgvx has posted a few reminiscences about that event, here, previously.