Not sure why the Minnesota Ice and Run thread got locked by the originator but.....

ToolMaker wrote:

So if it's OK to throw water bottles and sandwiches at ICE agents, should the agitator that sprayed piss (just my guess what the liquid was)...

So if it's OK to throw water bottles and sandwiches at ICE agents, should the agitator that sprayed piss (just my guess what the liquid was) on Ilhan Omar be set free? He did it peacefully, was backing away after so he posed no danger (per the lefty description of danger level). I say lock his ass up. Will the lefties be consistent and say what he did was OK, just peaceful protest?

TM

The real Sasquatch wrote:

I don't see anybody really arguing that throwing stuff is wrong and shouldn't be stopped.  The disagreement is with the level of force .  Throwing stuff...

I don't see anybody really arguing that throwing stuff is wrong and shouldn't be stopped.  The disagreement is with the level of force .  Throwing stuff is unfortunate a normal issue at protests that results in pepper spray and arrests NOT kicking the shit out of people and shooting them. 

 

 I haven't seen anybody argue against arresting people who are really assaulting ICE or DHS agents.  

 

  Blowing a whistle is not assault in my opinion and hard to argue that its obstruction in the ways that videos have shown it happening.  Its always  after the agent has made the target aware of them being a target. 

cslacker wrote:

All anyone is asking for is a source.  

ToolMaker wrote:

ABC news and multiple other news stationsReport: Encrypted chats reveal protesters tracked ICE before Alex Pretti's death in MNby CHARLOTTE HAZARD | The National...

ABC news and multiple other news stations

Report: Encrypted chats reveal protesters tracked ICE before Alex Pretti's death in MN

by CHARLOTTE HAZARD | The National News Desk

Mon, January 26, 2026 at 6:51 AM

Updated Mon, January 26, 2026 at 7:13 PM

cslacker wrote:

I don't believe anyone is denying that a multi-state Signal chat existed letting people know ICE's whereabouts.  R66's claim was that it was being directed by...

I don't believe anyone is denying that a multi-state Signal chat existed letting people know ICE's whereabouts.  R66's claim was that it was being directed by the governor's office.  

Thank you for providing the link my man and being willing to discuss unlike R66 👍

El_Rayo wrote:

Didn’t you respond to someone’s comment a couple days ago, reverting to personal attacks on what you claimed they looked like? I wish I could make...

Didn’t you respond to someone’s comment a couple days ago, reverting to personal attacks on what you claimed they looked like? I wish I could make this up. 

L.O.L.

ToolMaker wrote:

How funny you are. You don't even see the irony that Walz has to bring in the NG to keep the agitators away from ICE. Because...

How funny you are. You don't even see the irony that Walz has to bring in the NG to keep the agitators away from ICE. Because they're fuckin agitators. What are those whistles for anyway?

TM

The real Sasquatch wrote:

NO SHIT ,  Its also to keep ICE away from them . To stop ICE from doing something they are not trained to do. Interact with...

NO SHIT ,  Its also to keep ICE away from them . To stop ICE from doing something they are not trained to do. Interact with protesters.  Its to keep 2 parties that are unhappy with each other apart.    No matter how we got here, a neutral acting 3rd party is a good start to cool things down. 

 

 How many protests have there been in just this last year for all kinds of reasons? How many people have been killed at other protests by the law enforcement  or assaulted for blowing a whistle?  

 

Watch the news reports on the interactions of the guard and protesters.  I get it that there will always be people who are just there to be a pain in the ass and cause trouble. 

 

 The whistles are to bring attention to whatever is happening.  To get more eyes on what is happening.  Its the ICE agents who have taken it as a threat and assaulted protesters.   In the example that CNN reported , the agents were already chasing their targets and the targets  knew where ICE was as indicated by the way in which they ran away from them. IE not towards them. When there is an arrests being made or target running. Its not to alert the target. Its to get more people noticing what's going on. That could be taken as a warning for others to stay out of the way, to film or tape photos, or many other things.  Don't some police use whistles to alert people in a similar way ? 

 

 You tell me how a whistle has now become political and is doing anything beyond being loud and grabbing attention?   Oh my god, I just realized all those fans at the races with air horns and bells are really trying to distract the racers and they are not fans, they are attackers that should be arrested and prosecuted. 

ToolMaker wrote:

"NO SHIT ,  Its also to keep ICE away from them . To stop ICE from doing something they are not trained to do. Interact with...

"NO SHIT ,  Its also to keep ICE away from them . To stop ICE from doing something they are not trained to do. Interact with protesters.  Its to keep 2 parties that are unhappy with each other apart.    No matter how we got here, a neutral acting 3rd party is a good start to cool things down. "

WTF are you saying? ICE is not following them around. Did you buy that idea from the village idiot? And National Guard is a 4th party. you already have DHS trying to keep the agitators away. Now you need the National Guard to keep the agitators away from DHS that's trying to keep them away from ICE and you're trying to say it's to keep ICE away from the agitators. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

ToolMaker wrote:

So if it's OK to throw water bottles and sandwiches at ICE agents, should the agitator that sprayed piss (just my guess what the liquid was)...

So if it's OK to throw water bottles and sandwiches at ICE agents, should the agitator that sprayed piss (just my guess what the liquid was) on Ilhan Omar be set free? He did it peacefully, was backing away after so he posed no danger (per the lefty description of danger level). I say lock his ass up. Will the lefties be consistent and say what he did was OK, just peaceful protest?

TM

The real Sasquatch wrote:

I don't see anybody really arguing that throwing stuff is wrong and shouldn't be stopped.  The disagreement is with the level of force .  Throwing stuff...

I don't see anybody really arguing that throwing stuff is wrong and shouldn't be stopped.  The disagreement is with the level of force .  Throwing stuff is unfortunate a normal issue at protests that results in pepper spray and arrests NOT kicking the shit out of people and shooting them. 

 

 I haven't seen anybody argue against arresting people who are really assaulting ICE or DHS agents.  

 

  Blowing a whistle is not assault in my opinion and hard to argue that its obstruction in the ways that videos have shown it happening.  Its always  after the agent has made the target aware of them being a target. 

ToolMaker wrote:

"Its always  after the agent has made the target aware of them being a target."And you would know this how? There blowing their whistles 24/7 Warning...

"Its always  after the agent has made the target aware of them being a target."

And you would know this how? There blowing their whistles 24/7 Warning the targets of ICE for them to get away.

I guess you're more happy with the Biden administration having the FBI blow through front doors to get a guy for posting a meme.

El_Rayo wrote:

Didn’t you respond to someone’s comment a couple days ago, reverting to personal attacks on what you claimed they looked like? I wish I could make...

Didn’t you respond to someone’s comment a couple days ago, reverting to personal attacks on what you claimed they looked like? I wish I could make this up. 

L.O.L.

R66 wrote:

Was it a comment I was responding to? You may want to go look at that again. I  think it is funny some of you seem...

Was it a comment I was responding to? You may want to go look at that again. I  think it is funny some of you seem to be obsessed with my posts. Like I said earlier. It means I am over the target. 

cslacker wrote:

It means you bring nothing to the conversation 👍

The real Sasquatch wrote:

Again , ICE agents tackling somebody blowing a whistle is . Hitting and knocking people down that are just filming. That's ALSO bad and as professionals...

Again , ICE agents tackling somebody blowing a whistle is . Hitting and knocking people down that are just filming. That's ALSO bad and as professionals they should be held to a higher standard.  I'm not defending ANYBODY that is throwing stuff or getting physical . 

 

I used 3rd party as  meaning they are neither there as PRO protester or Pro ICE. They are a neutral party there to keep things peaceful. Both protesters and ICE have not all acted great.   Frame it however makes You happy, I'm just glad that somebody is doing something that really looks like its trying to cool things down instead of rile more people up. 

 

 There are people that are throwing stuff at police at protests all the time. They are not often killed, are they? What is the difference between an agitator attacking police at any other protest VS at an ICE protest?  

 Arrest them if they are obstructing and they have proof. Don't shoot them.   Don't chase them around pepper spraying and pushing them down . Get them down, cuff them and transport them to the local PD.  Pretti never resisted .   

Go back in time and arrest Pretti and Good for obstruction and we never have this thread.  ICE took it from what could have been a simple arrest to what it is now.  

 

The real Sasquatch wrote:

Again , ICE agents tackling somebody blowing a whistle is . Hitting and knocking people down that are just filming. That's ALSO bad and as professionals...

Again , ICE agents tackling somebody blowing a whistle is . Hitting and knocking people down that are just filming. That's ALSO bad and as professionals they should be held to a higher standard.  I'm not defending ANYBODY that is throwing stuff or getting physical . 

 

I used 3rd party as  meaning they are neither there as PRO protester or Pro ICE. They are a neutral party there to keep things peaceful. Both protesters and ICE have not all acted great.   Frame it however makes You happy, I'm just glad that somebody is doing something that really looks like its trying to cool things down instead of rile more people up. 

 

 There are people that are throwing stuff at police at protests all the time. They are not often killed, are they? What is the difference between an agitator attacking police at any other protest VS at an ICE protest?  

 Arrest them if they are obstructing and they have proof. Don't shoot them.   Don't chase them around pepper spraying and pushing them down . Get them down, cuff them and transport them to the local PD.  Pretti never resisted .   

Go back in time and arrest Pretti and Good for obstruction and we never have this thread.  ICE took it from what could have been a simple arrest to what it is now.  

 

R66 wrote:

I think you meant to say. “Go back in time to when the border was wide open and millions of people illegally entered our country and...

I think you meant to say. “Go back in time to when the border was wide open and millions of people illegally entered our country and we would not be having this conversation.”

ToolMaker wrote:

So if it's OK to throw water bottles and sandwiches at ICE agents, should the agitator that sprayed piss (just my guess what the liquid was)...

So if it's OK to throw water bottles and sandwiches at ICE agents, should the agitator that sprayed piss (just my guess what the liquid was) on Ilhan Omar be set free? He did it peacefully, was backing away after so he posed no danger (per the lefty description of danger level). I say lock his ass up. Will the lefties be consistent and say what he did was OK, just peaceful protest?

TM

The real Sasquatch wrote:

I don't see anybody really arguing that throwing stuff is wrong and shouldn't be stopped.  The disagreement is with the level of force .  Throwing stuff...

I don't see anybody really arguing that throwing stuff is wrong and shouldn't be stopped.  The disagreement is with the level of force .  Throwing stuff is unfortunate a normal issue at protests that results in pepper spray and arrests NOT kicking the shit out of people and shooting them. 

 

 I haven't seen anybody argue against arresting people who are really assaulting ICE or DHS agents.  

 

  Blowing a whistle is not assault in my opinion and hard to argue that its obstruction in the ways that videos have shown it happening.  Its always  after the agent has made the target aware of them being a target. 

ToolMaker wrote:

"Its always  after the agent has made the target aware of them being a target."And you would know this how? There blowing their whistles 24/7 Warning...

"Its always  after the agent has made the target aware of them being a target."

And you would know this how? There blowing their whistles 24/7 Warning the targets of ICE for them to get away.

I guess you're more happy with the Biden administration having the FBI blow through front doors to get a guy for posting a meme.

truck wrote:

Well I disagree about the interfering and resisting but I suppose that's up for debate. What isn't up for debate is Minnesota carry law. It says...

Well I disagree about the interfering and resisting but I suppose that's up for debate. What isn't up for debate is Minnesota carry law. It says you have to have permit with you at all times to carry lawfully. It's been reported that he didn't. So not carrying lawfully. Petty for sure, but it certainly wasn't conservatives who got that written into law. That would be one of those gun laws liberals use to make it more difficult for people to carry legally so they can infringe on the right. You don't get to ignore it now when it messes up your martyr story. The officers knowledge of the gun or his permit has nothing to do with whether or not he was carrying legally. 

Aus_Rider_22 wrote:

That's a lot of words to mentally dance around the fact that he was tackled to the ground before they knew he was carrying a weapon...

That's a lot of words to mentally dance around the fact that he was tackled to the ground before they knew he was carrying a weapon. The weapon was removed. He was still on the ground and it doesn't appear in any videos that they even considered bothering to see if he was lawful in carrying that weapon like you seem so concerned about by stating the apparent carry law for that state. Instead he was fired at and killed while on the ground.

You don't go and harass police/law enforcement. That's asking for trouble. I agree with you above, it's debatable whether he was resisting and tackling him was required in the first place until we get to see the ICE body cameras and what the deceased was filming on his phone.

But the point many of us can't understand is how so many people on here are happy to accept exactly what we saw as okay. Someone gets shots multiple times and killed when they had just been unarmed and hadn't even been able to take their feet.

truck wrote:

At no point have I said any of it was OK. People keep reading things into what I'm saying instead of reading what I'm saying. Once they...

At no point have I said any of it was OK. People keep reading things into what I'm saying instead of reading what I'm saying. 

Once they determined he was interfering there was no possibility for it to be legal carry at that point. A permit wouldn't have changed that. The presence of the gun and the interfering equates to unlawful carry. The lack of a permit just means it was also unlawful carry prior to that. 

The real Sasquatch wrote:

Again , ICE agents tackling somebody blowing a whistle is . Hitting and knocking people down that are just filming. That's ALSO bad and as professionals...

Again , ICE agents tackling somebody blowing a whistle is . Hitting and knocking people down that are just filming. That's ALSO bad and as professionals they should be held to a higher standard.  I'm not defending ANYBODY that is throwing stuff or getting physical . 

 

I used 3rd party as  meaning they are neither there as PRO protester or Pro ICE. They are a neutral party there to keep things peaceful. Both protesters and ICE have not all acted great.   Frame it however makes You happy, I'm just glad that somebody is doing something that really looks like its trying to cool things down instead of rile more people up. 

 

 There are people that are throwing stuff at police at protests all the time. They are not often killed, are they? What is the difference between an agitator attacking police at any other protest VS at an ICE protest?  

 Arrest them if they are obstructing and they have proof. Don't shoot them.   Don't chase them around pepper spraying and pushing them down . Get them down, cuff them and transport them to the local PD.  Pretti never resisted .   

Go back in time and arrest Pretti and Good for obstruction and we never have this thread.  ICE took it from what could have been a simple arrest to what it is now.  

 

R66 wrote:

I think you meant to say. “Go back in time to when the border was wide open and millions of people illegally entered our country and...

I think you meant to say. “Go back in time to when the border was wide open and millions of people illegally entered our country and we would not be having this conversation.”

R66 wrote:

Anybody else think that at least three of the resistance supporters are the same person sitting in front of three screens with 3 different account names?

truck wrote:

 

https://youtu.be/CRWR13BAIEs?si=7tdMAwJ4GOm96f70

If this is real..... more victim blaming I guess? 

The real Sasquatch wrote:

I don't see anybody really arguing that throwing stuff is wrong and shouldn't be stopped.  The disagreement is with the level of force .  Throwing stuff...

I don't see anybody really arguing that throwing stuff is wrong and shouldn't be stopped.  The disagreement is with the level of force .  Throwing stuff is unfortunate a normal issue at protests that results in pepper spray and arrests NOT kicking the shit out of people and shooting them. 

 

 I haven't seen anybody argue against arresting people who are really assaulting ICE or DHS agents.  

 

  Blowing a whistle is not assault in my opinion and hard to argue that its obstruction in the ways that videos have shown it happening.  Its always  after the agent has made the target aware of them being a target. 

ToolMaker wrote:

"Its always  after the agent has made the target aware of them being a target."And you would know this how? There blowing their whistles 24/7 Warning...

"Its always  after the agent has made the target aware of them being a target."

And you would know this how? There blowing their whistles 24/7 Warning the targets of ICE for them to get away.

I guess you're more happy with the Biden administration having the FBI blow through front doors to get a guy for posting a meme.

cslacker wrote:

People have yelled out and notified their neighborhood of cops presence since I've been a kid, probably before that but I can only speak to my...

People have yelled out and notified their neighborhood of cops presence since I've been a kid, probably before that but I can only speak to my lifetime.  I have never heard of police macing or assaulting the kid yelling out 5 O.  It's not illegal to notify people of police presence and has been brought to court and found as protected under the 1st amendment.  Same as an app showing police presence(in this case ICE).  Courts have upheld it as legal to date: Citizens are tracking ICE in real time to warn migrants. Is that legal?   | Reuters

truck wrote:

 

https://youtu.be/CRWR13BAIEs?si=7tdMAwJ4GOm96f70

If this is real..... more victim blaming I guess? 

Freddy99 wrote:

yep just checked the book of laws and the penalty for property damage 11 days ago is death.  good job ICE ya got your guy! high...

yep just checked the book of laws and the penalty for property damage 11 days ago is death.  good job ICE ya got your guy! high 5s all around. back to agitating those pesky border jumpers in fucking minnesota. 

 

The real Sasquatch wrote:

Again , ICE agents tackling somebody blowing a whistle is . Hitting and knocking people down that are just filming. That's ALSO bad and as professionals...

Again , ICE agents tackling somebody blowing a whistle is . Hitting and knocking people down that are just filming. That's ALSO bad and as professionals they should be held to a higher standard.  I'm not defending ANYBODY that is throwing stuff or getting physical . 

 

I used 3rd party as  meaning they are neither there as PRO protester or Pro ICE. They are a neutral party there to keep things peaceful. Both protesters and ICE have not all acted great.   Frame it however makes You happy, I'm just glad that somebody is doing something that really looks like its trying to cool things down instead of rile more people up. 

 

 There are people that are throwing stuff at police at protests all the time. They are not often killed, are they? What is the difference between an agitator attacking police at any other protest VS at an ICE protest?  

 Arrest them if they are obstructing and they have proof. Don't shoot them.   Don't chase them around pepper spraying and pushing them down . Get them down, cuff them and transport them to the local PD.  Pretti never resisted .   

Go back in time and arrest Pretti and Good for obstruction and we never have this thread.  ICE took it from what could have been a simple arrest to what it is now.  

 

R66 wrote:

I think you meant to say. “Go back in time to when the border was wide open and millions of people illegally entered our country and...

I think you meant to say. “Go back in time to when the border was wide open and millions of people illegally entered our country and we would not be having this conversation.”

Peddy wrote:

Most entered legally. The problem with immigration was the asylum laws on the books. That's how "illegal immigrants" came in. The law that Trump blocked from...

Most entered legally. The problem with immigration was the asylum laws on the books. That's how "illegal immigrants" came in. The law that Trump blocked from passing during Biden's admin would have tackled those laws.

The real Sasquatch wrote:

Walz has sent the Nation Guard in to act as crowd control  and allow the Protesters to protest and ICE to  do ICE things.  Now  maybe...

Walz has sent the Nation Guard in to act as crowd control  and allow the Protesters to protest and ICE to  do ICE things.  Now  maybe ICE can do something to help  calm things down. 

 

  Tackling somebody who is just video taping or blowing a whistle is not going to calm things down.  It is not the action of a Professional it is the reaction a kid on the playground would have.

 

   Maybe the protesters should just wear MAGA hats and use flag poles with the US flag on them to beat the ICE agents instead of blowing a whistle or filming them, then they can get a pardon and  be home with their family after .    

 

 If only they had acted like these fine upstanding citizens who were just site seeing on Jan 6th.  they would both be alive

Notice how these fine tourists are greeting Police with a refreshing shower of Pepper or bear spray. 

And this fine American was nice enough to give the police a close up view of his flag pole. as shown above on his way for a leisurely  tour of the capital.  

 

Instead they acted like violent domestic terrorists as shown in these photos below. 

 

Notice the woman above bravely brandishing her weapons. A car and whistle.  What an idiot, to think she could get away with such behavior in the US. 

Its so sad that people are arguing over the use of deadly force being totally justified by ICE. Yet it was not at all justified for capital Police to have shot a single person .While arguing that Trump had nothing to do with them storming the Capital after he told them to march to the capital and that it would be wild.  And accuse Waltz is working together with protesters because democrats have been against the way ICE is doing stuff and told people ways they could peacefully help and protest. 

 

 Funny how blinded by partisan BS people are that they are seeing things the way they are. 

 

 While I can kind of understand how they can justify the shooting of Good, its still something that would have been safer to have let her drive away.  Just because the standard of fearing for your life can be meet, doesn't mean its the appropriate action or the action that's in Your or the publics best interest. 

 

 Should Capital Police have shot everybody who attacked a police officer on Jan 6th? Using the standards applied to the ICE shootings they could have shot 1000's of people and been justified right? The same fear for their life was very likely present in the Capital police officers minds . If You do not think they would have been justified in shooting and killing all those attackers , but You are arguing that  the ICE shooting were totally clean shootings, take a minute and think about it. How hypocritical it is. How it all comes down to politics and how wrong that is. 

 

Maybe they could have been like some of these protesters who also were not shot. That were at a protest against Obama armed  outside a building he was making a speech at.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32457652

 

I've always thought its a bad idea to do something like this , that it could get You shot.  Carrying a concealed weapon and NOT waving it around is different in my opinion .  Perhaps Pretti felt like a precedent had been set as it being safe to have a gun as long as You were not  using it  to make threats. 

 

 I really should just stay away from the darkness of non moto, yet I keep coming back.  Hopefully I can work on self control and stay in  the more positive MOTO related area more often. 

ToolMaker wrote:

How funny you are. You don't even see the irony that Walz has to bring in the NG to keep the agitators away from ICE. Because...

How funny you are. You don't even see the irony that Walz has to bring in the NG to keep the agitators away from ICE. Because they're fuckin agitators. What are those whistles for anyway?

TM

The real Sasquatch wrote:

NO SHIT ,  Its also to keep ICE away from them . To stop ICE from doing something they are not trained to do. Interact with...

NO SHIT ,  Its also to keep ICE away from them . To stop ICE from doing something they are not trained to do. Interact with protesters.  Its to keep 2 parties that are unhappy with each other apart.    No matter how we got here, a neutral acting 3rd party is a good start to cool things down. 

 

 How many protests have there been in just this last year for all kinds of reasons? How many people have been killed at other protests by the law enforcement  or assaulted for blowing a whistle?  

 

Watch the news reports on the interactions of the guard and protesters.  I get it that there will always be people who are just there to be a pain in the ass and cause trouble. 

 

 The whistles are to bring attention to whatever is happening.  To get more eyes on what is happening.  Its the ICE agents who have taken it as a threat and assaulted protesters.   In the example that CNN reported , the agents were already chasing their targets and the targets  knew where ICE was as indicated by the way in which they ran away from them. IE not towards them. When there is an arrests being made or target running. Its not to alert the target. Its to get more people noticing what's going on. That could be taken as a warning for others to stay out of the way, to film or tape photos, or many other things.  Don't some police use whistles to alert people in a similar way ? 

 

 You tell me how a whistle has now become political and is doing anything beyond being loud and grabbing attention?   Oh my god, I just realized all those fans at the races with air horns and bells are really trying to distract the racers and they are not fans, they are attackers that should be arrested and prosecuted. 

ToolMaker wrote:

How funny you are. You don't even see the irony that Walz has to bring in the NG to keep the agitators away from ICE. Because...

How funny you are. You don't even see the irony that Walz has to bring in the NG to keep the agitators away from ICE. Because they're fuckin agitators. What are those whistles for anyway?

TM

The real Sasquatch wrote:

NO SHIT ,  Its also to keep ICE away from them . To stop ICE from doing something they are not trained to do. Interact with...

NO SHIT ,  Its also to keep ICE away from them . To stop ICE from doing something they are not trained to do. Interact with protesters.  Its to keep 2 parties that are unhappy with each other apart.    No matter how we got here, a neutral acting 3rd party is a good start to cool things down. 

 

 How many protests have there been in just this last year for all kinds of reasons? How many people have been killed at other protests by the law enforcement  or assaulted for blowing a whistle?  

 

Watch the news reports on the interactions of the guard and protesters.  I get it that there will always be people who are just there to be a pain in the ass and cause trouble. 

 

 The whistles are to bring attention to whatever is happening.  To get more eyes on what is happening.  Its the ICE agents who have taken it as a threat and assaulted protesters.   In the example that CNN reported , the agents were already chasing their targets and the targets  knew where ICE was as indicated by the way in which they ran away from them. IE not towards them. When there is an arrests being made or target running. Its not to alert the target. Its to get more people noticing what's going on. That could be taken as a warning for others to stay out of the way, to film or tape photos, or many other things.  Don't some police use whistles to alert people in a similar way ? 

 

 You tell me how a whistle has now become political and is doing anything beyond being loud and grabbing attention?   Oh my god, I just realized all those fans at the races with air horns and bells are really trying to distract the racers and they are not fans, they are attackers that should be arrested and prosecuted. 

ToolMaker wrote:

So how old are you? You just figured out noise at a sporting event has an effect? You actually never knew the home town fans make...

So how old are you? You just figured out noise at a sporting event has an effect? You actually never knew the home town fans make noise when the visiting team has the ball to distract and disrupt the offense?

That says it all about how I'm wasting my time responding here.

R66 wrote:

I think you meant to say. “Go back in time to when the border was wide open and millions of people illegally entered our country and...

I think you meant to say. “Go back in time to when the border was wide open and millions of people illegally entered our country and we would not be having this conversation.”

Peddy wrote:

Most entered legally. The problem with immigration was the asylum laws on the books. That's how "illegal immigrants" came in. The law that Trump blocked from...

Most entered legally. The problem with immigration was the asylum laws on the books. That's how "illegal immigrants" came in. The law that Trump blocked from passing during Biden's admin would have tackled those laws.

ToolMaker wrote:

It wasn't the asylum laws. It's the previous administration didn't enforce what qualified for asylum. Pretty sure climate change was not listed as a reason for...

It wasn't the asylum laws. It's the previous administration didn't enforce what qualified for asylum. Pretty sure climate change was not listed as a reason for legitimate asylum.

BH_84 wrote:

R66 wrote:

I hope you like crow 

olds cool wrote:

22 pages and no one has recognized this as a color revolution being set in motion?