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Wow, so messed up.  I had heard there was another shooting but had not heard how it happened. I was hoping that they would be taking...

Wow, so messed up.  I had heard there was another shooting but had not heard how it happened. I was hoping that they would be taking extra caution and trying to cool things down. Perhaps carrying less lethal weapons like many local PD also carry. Seems like a tazer could have been used in most of the shooting I've heard about. Keep in mind they do have tasers that shoot out little darts so You do not need to be on top of the person. 

  I see a lot of people talk about Obama deport  record amounts of people.  One thing that I'm not sure if it has been pointed out yet. Obama's ICE budget for both terms was more than 4 times LESS  than the ICE budget for 2026 ( as long as google provided  legit info).  Think about that.  roughly 16B for Obama's 8 years and $90B for 2026.  A lot of those funds are going to hiring new agents and there has been proof that they are not training everybody as much as they should. They were using AI to filter out applicants that were already law enforcement VS no experience.  New  to law enforcement get an 8 week course, current LE get a 4 week.  But the AI software was sending people that had used the word officer in their resumes to the LE trainings even if they had not LE experience.  Some that said they aspired to police officers. and other people who used the word officer in their resume that were not experienced in law enforcement. There has been  other reports of issues with training and vetting the new agents.  

 

 So the likelihood of new agents being out there with little training in a high stress situation is VERY high. it sounds like its pretty reckless to me . 

In Maine there was a press conference after a prison guard was taken into custody by ICE that was doing everything legally to become a US citizen according to the officer who spoke. They also said that ICE has been taking people and leaving their vehicles on the sides of the street for the local PD to deal with.  Leaving them sometimes running with the windows down, sometimes just the keys in the ignition, etc. But its happened enough they talked about it in the press conference. Seems very minor compared to the current situation out in MN though. I won't attach any links since it may derail the current conversation. I came to post some of what I posted before I knew about the new shooting. I was just walking out of my house when there was a live video of the shooting that popped up on Youtube so I knew that something happened, but no details.   

truck wrote:

Taser pretty worthless with thick winter clothes. Pepper spray used before the shooting didn't help. 

 Why did they even need to shoot the guy this time?   I wonder how long it will be before an agent gets shot by another...

 Why did they even need to shoot the guy this time?   I wonder how long it will be before an agent gets shot by another agent. They seem to often take shots with other agents in the line of fire.   

I don't know. It's been a few hours. Not sure the whole story is publicly available yet. I'm sure we'll get the shooters mom's address first.

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Brad460 wrote:
I wonder if these folks have life insurance coverage from their rent a crowd employer? I am certain I will never be shot protesting the arrest of...

I wonder if these folks have life insurance coverage from their rent a crowd employer? 

I am certain I will never be shot protesting the arrest of murders and child molesters..I feel like that’s not who I am giving up my life for..

You’re really fucking stupid Brad if you don’t realize a ton of these people are there to protest on their own time and dime. I’m sure there...

You’re really fucking stupid Brad if you don’t realize a ton of these people are there to protest on their own time and dime. 
I’m sure there is some organized groups but people are fucking pissed and now they are only going to get stronger. 
I’m sure you’re a decent guy man but you have some really dumb takes. 
I spoke to my coworker in Minneapolis yesterday about this. Regular folk are going out to protest. Not him, he’s conservative as hell. But he admitted the town is up in arms over this shit. 

Sorry, but “Regular” folks are not pissed off about murders, child molesters and fraudsters being deported….

It’s sad to see what the left has done to Minneapolis..it used to be such a great city..

 

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1/24/2026 1:01pm
Brad460 wrote:
I wonder if these folks have life insurance coverage from their rent a crowd employer? I am certain I will never be shot protesting the arrest of...

I wonder if these folks have life insurance coverage from their rent a crowd employer? 

I am certain I will never be shot protesting the arrest of murders and child molesters..I feel like that’s not who I am giving up my life for..

You’re really fucking stupid Brad if you don’t realize a ton of these people are there to protest on their own time and dime. I’m sure there...

You’re really fucking stupid Brad if you don’t realize a ton of these people are there to protest on their own time and dime. 
I’m sure there is some organized groups but people are fucking pissed and now they are only going to get stronger. 
I’m sure you’re a decent guy man but you have some really dumb takes. 
I spoke to my coworker in Minneapolis yesterday about this. Regular folk are going out to protest. Not him, he’s conservative as hell. But he admitted the town is up in arms over this shit. 

Brad460 wrote:
Sorry, but “Regular” folks are not pissed off about murders, child molesters and fraudsters being deported….It’s sad to see what the left has done to Minneapolis..it...

Sorry, but “Regular” folks are not pissed off about murders, child molesters and fraudsters being deported….

It’s sad to see what the left has done to Minneapolis..it used to be such a great city..

 

You’re right. They’re not. 
It’s impossible to have a somewhat intelligent conversation with you. I guess I’m not shocked. 

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Brad460 wrote:
I wonder if these folks have life insurance coverage from their rent a crowd employer? I am certain I will never be shot protesting the arrest of...

I wonder if these folks have life insurance coverage from their rent a crowd employer? 

I am certain I will never be shot protesting the arrest of murders and child molesters..I feel like that’s not who I am giving up my life for..

You’re really fucking stupid Brad if you don’t realize a ton of these people are there to protest on their own time and dime. I’m sure there...

You’re really fucking stupid Brad if you don’t realize a ton of these people are there to protest on their own time and dime. 
I’m sure there is some organized groups but people are fucking pissed and now they are only going to get stronger. 
I’m sure you’re a decent guy man but you have some really dumb takes. 
I spoke to my coworker in Minneapolis yesterday about this. Regular folk are going out to protest. Not him, he’s conservative as hell. But he admitted the town is up in arms over this shit. 

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Sorry, but “Regular” folks are not pissed off about murders, child molesters and fraudsters being deported….It’s sad to see what the left has done to Minneapolis..it...

Sorry, but “Regular” folks are not pissed off about murders, child molesters and fraudsters being deported….

It’s sad to see what the left has done to Minneapolis..it used to be such a great city..

 

Trump has pardoned the types of people you're mentioning and his supporters aren't pissed off about it. 

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Probably the best non-body cam angle we'll get from it.

This angle doesn't look awesome. 

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Looks like one of the agents secured his concealed carry and started walking away right before they started shooting him. 

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You’re right. They’re not. 
It’s impossible to have a somewhat intelligent conversation with you. I guess I’m not shocked. 

Intelligent conversation about unintelligent people…hmmm..

What advice would you have for someone who doesn’t want to be shot by ICE? 

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1/24/2026 1:29pm Edited Date/Time 1/24/2026 1:31pm

You’re right. They’re not. 
It’s impossible to have a somewhat intelligent conversation with you. I guess I’m not shocked. 

Brad460 wrote:

Intelligent conversation about unintelligent people…hmmm..

What advice would you have for someone who doesn’t want to be shot by ICE? 

Don’t go anywhere near them, which is part of the issue I feel like you are missing.

It would be like asking what advice would you give to someone who didn’t want to die, never leave the house. Live like a prisoner. 
Don’t ask questions, do what you’re told. Don’t resist. Give up your freedoms.

It’s like you forgot how and why this country was created. 

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1/24/2026 1:36pm Edited Date/Time 1/24/2026 1:40pm

You’re right. They’re not. 
It’s impossible to have a somewhat intelligent conversation with you. I guess I’m not shocked. 

Brad460 wrote:

Intelligent conversation about unintelligent people…hmmm..

What advice would you have for someone who doesn’t want to be shot by ICE? 

It would be interesting to see how you qualify intelligence. Because I know a lot of very intelligent people that have wildly different views and beliefs than I have. 

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1/24/2026 1:43pm
truck wrote:

Taser pretty worthless with thick winter clothes. Pepper spray used before the shooting didn't help. 

 Why did they even need to shoot the guy this time?   I wonder how long it will be before an agent gets shot by another...

 Why did they even need to shoot the guy this time?   I wonder how long it will be before an agent gets shot by another agent. They seem to often take shots with other agents in the line of fire.   

truck wrote:

I don't know. It's been a few hours. Not sure the whole story is publicly available yet. I'm sure we'll get the shooters mom's address first.

 Unfortunately we will likely get an explanation that doesn't go along with what  videos show. And it will create more division, get more people angry and more people out in the streets speaking out.  

 

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You’re right. They’re not. 
It’s impossible to have a somewhat intelligent conversation with you. I guess I’m not shocked. 

Brad460 wrote:

Intelligent conversation about unintelligent people…hmmm..

What advice would you have for someone who doesn’t want to be shot by ICE? 

Don’t go anywhere near them, which is part of the issue I feel like you are missing.It would be like asking what advice would you give...

Don’t go anywhere near them, which is part of the issue I feel like you are missing.

It would be like asking what advice would you give to someone who didn’t want to die, never leave the house. Live like a prisoner. 
Don’t ask questions, do what you’re told. Don’t resist. Give up your freedoms.

It’s like you forgot how and why this country was created. 

+1, basically....don't exercise your rights. Not a surprise though, pretty much anyone that says things like "say it to my face" is saying they're willing to turn to crime as a response to someone exercising their rights, and it's a huge segment of society that thinks that way. 

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Brad460 wrote:

Intelligent conversation about unintelligent people…hmmm..

What advice would you have for someone who doesn’t want to be shot by ICE? 

Comply or die. Welcome to the new and improved America. 

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1/24/2026 1:48pm
 Why did they even need to shoot the guy this time?   I wonder how long it will be before an agent gets shot by another...

 Why did they even need to shoot the guy this time?   I wonder how long it will be before an agent gets shot by another agent. They seem to often take shots with other agents in the line of fire.   

truck wrote:

I don't know. It's been a few hours. Not sure the whole story is publicly available yet. I'm sure we'll get the shooters mom's address first.

 Unfortunately we will likely get an explanation that doesn't go along with what  videos show. And it will create more division, get more people angry and...

 Unfortunately we will likely get an explanation that doesn't go along with what  videos show. And it will create more division, get more people angry and more people out in the streets speaking out.  

 

Listen to that little clown Bovino. 
Fucking dork couldn’t even pull the pin out of a smoke canister. 
That dickhead Miller is saying the victim was an assassin. 
I mean how much gaslighting is the public going to put up with. 
https://x.com/RibGoneRogue/status/2015174756992188524?s=20IMG 7151 6.jpeg?VersionId=kv85xk84UCi6PPDk8qFKfzQ9x

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Looks like one of the agents secured his concealed carry and started walking away right before they started shooting him. 

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CWP holder and law follower here. You CAN NOT tote a firearm into a hostile enviroment (such as a riot, or politically charged protest where members have been promising violence against law enforcement for WEEKS on social media) and ESCALATE said hostile environment with your firearm. Super illegal, will draw the ire of police, common sense firearm owners, and will quicky make yourself a target - as our latest gentlemen found out today. Several forum members here are willfully dodging the question of why this dude had a police presence on top of him in the first place, or something simplier - like why he wasnt at home with family, or being productive at work? He willfully made the decision to put himself in a bad place, with a firearm no less. Its actually comical the left is gonna push this as some sort of 2nd Ammendment violation, when they actually dont support it in the first place. 

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1/24/2026 1:56pm

Looks like one of the agents secured his concealed carry and started walking away right before they started shooting him. 

Spurdo wrote:
CWP holder and law follower here. You CAN NOT tote a firearm into a hostile enviroment (such as a riot, or politically charged protest where members...
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CWP holder and law follower here. You CAN NOT tote a firearm into a hostile enviroment (such as a riot, or politically charged protest where members have been promising violence against law enforcement for WEEKS on social media) and ESCALATE said hostile environment with your firearm. Super illegal, will draw the ire of police, common sense firearm owners, and will quicky make yourself a target - as our latest gentlemen found out today. Several forum members here are willfully dodging the question of why this dude had a police presence on top of him in the first place, or something simplier - like why he wasnt at home with family, or being productive at work? He willfully made the decision to put himself in a bad place, with a firearm no less. Its actually comical the left is gonna push this as some sort of 2nd Ammendment violation, when they actually dont support it in the first place. 

I never said it was a good idea. 
I’d also never do it. Not worth the risk to me knowing ICE tactics, the fact most have shit training and they have the cover of the federal government. 
But the vid and the pics show an ICE officer taking the gun away before they shot him 10 times. 
You’re gonna see more guns. 
What he did was stupid but not illegal. 

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1/24/2026 1:59pm

Looks like one of the agents secured his concealed carry and started walking away right before they started shooting him. 

Spurdo wrote:
CWP holder and law follower here. You CAN NOT tote a firearm into a hostile enviroment (such as a riot, or politically charged protest where members...
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CWP holder and law follower here. You CAN NOT tote a firearm into a hostile enviroment (such as a riot, or politically charged protest where members have been promising violence against law enforcement for WEEKS on social media) and ESCALATE said hostile environment with your firearm. Super illegal, will draw the ire of police, common sense firearm owners, and will quicky make yourself a target - as our latest gentlemen found out today. Several forum members here are willfully dodging the question of why this dude had a police presence on top of him in the first place, or something simplier - like why he wasnt at home with family, or being productive at work? He willfully made the decision to put himself in a bad place, with a firearm no less. Its actually comical the left is gonna push this as some sort of 2nd Ammendment violation, when they actually dont support it in the first place. 

Super illegal?  Can you cite the laws that you imply were being broken?  

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1/24/2026 2:01pm
Brad460 wrote:
I wonder if these folks have life insurance coverage from their rent a crowd employer? I am certain I will never be shot protesting the arrest of...

I wonder if these folks have life insurance coverage from their rent a crowd employer? 

I am certain I will never be shot protesting the arrest of murders and child molesters..I feel like that’s not who I am giving up my life for..

You’re really fucking stupid Brad if you don’t realize a ton of these people are there to protest on their own time and dime. I’m sure there...

You’re really fucking stupid Brad if you don’t realize a ton of these people are there to protest on their own time and dime. 
I’m sure there is some organized groups but people are fucking pissed and now they are only going to get stronger. 
I’m sure you’re a decent guy man but you have some really dumb takes. 
I spoke to my coworker in Minneapolis yesterday about this. Regular folk are going out to protest. Not him, he’s conservative as hell. But he admitted the town is up in arms over this shit. 

Brad460 wrote:
Sorry, but “Regular” folks are not pissed off about murders, child molesters and fraudsters being deported….It’s sad to see what the left has done to Minneapolis..it...

Sorry, but “Regular” folks are not pissed off about murders, child molesters and fraudsters being deported….

It’s sad to see what the left has done to Minneapolis..it used to be such a great city..

 

You are correct! Its the regular people. The people who are in the process of doing everything to be here legally. The US Citizens, the military Vets, the people who " Look" like they came from someplace else that  are being detained ,shot and harassed that  the majority of protestors are mad about. 

 And then You might get some people that are just there for the wild stuff  and could care less about what's going on. They just want to be assholes. Its hard to expect the people that are there to be peaceful to confront those people and keep them under control . I've seen videos of people being successful at stopping people that are there just for a fight. But its not always the case.   

 I challenge you to find  any qoutes,video,articles, of a real person who has said they are out there to help protect anybody that has been proven guilty of doing any of those things. And not just taking the word of somebody saying that is why they are there.  There may be some people who are out there to make sure that those people also are getting treated like people and not having their rights abused. 

Remember that in the US You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty in a court of Law. Trampling on peoples rights because they look like somebody who might be a bad person is not OK with a lot of people. 

 

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1/24/2026 2:01pm

Looks like one of the agents secured his concealed carry and started walking away right before they started shooting him. 

Spurdo wrote:
CWP holder and law follower here. You CAN NOT tote a firearm into a hostile enviroment (such as a riot, or politically charged protest where members...
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CWP holder and law follower here. You CAN NOT tote a firearm into a hostile enviroment (such as a riot, or politically charged protest where members have been promising violence against law enforcement for WEEKS on social media) and ESCALATE said hostile environment with your firearm. Super illegal, will draw the ire of police, common sense firearm owners, and will quicky make yourself a target - as our latest gentlemen found out today. Several forum members here are willfully dodging the question of why this dude had a police presence on top of him in the first place, or something simplier - like why he wasnt at home with family, or being productive at work? He willfully made the decision to put himself in a bad place, with a firearm no less. Its actually comical the left is gonna push this as some sort of 2nd Ammendment violation, when they actually dont support it in the first place. 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Super illegal?  Can you cite the laws that you imply were being broken?  

Would love for him to because I could not find one. 
Would also like to know if any charges were filed against the guy last week that had a legal concealed carry on him that ICE took when they were harassing him for standing around with a phone. 

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Super illegal?  Can you cite the laws that you imply were being broken?  

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I only know my state, I imagine just about everyones laws are *reasonably* close. Focus on that last sentence. Thank you for your attention to this matter. 

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They would not be frantically trying to save the guys life if they didn’t know they fucked up. 
Where’s the gun, where’s the gun??

https://x.com/BulwarkOnline/status/2015136655468904815?s=20

Tell me you don't know anything about these situations....

They try to save the life of everyone they shoot. Every time. Hundreds of police shooting videos on the internet if you want to look for yourself. 

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1/24/2026 2:31pm

They would not be frantically trying to save the guys life if they didn’t know they fucked up. 
Where’s the gun, where’s the gun??

https://x.com/BulwarkOnline/status/2015136655468904815?s=20

truck wrote:
Tell me you don't know anything about these situations....They try to save the life of everyone they shoot. Every time. Hundreds of police shooting videos on...

Tell me you don't know anything about these situations....

They try to save the life of everyone they shoot. Every time. Hundreds of police shooting videos on the internet if you want to look for yourself. 

Guess you missed the last person they killed. They wouldn’t even let the paramedics roll up. 
Spare me. These guys were panicking. Do you not hear the repeated question of where is the gun when they are moving him??

Tell me you know nothing about the recent history of ICE shootings. 

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1/24/2026 2:34pm
APLMAN99 wrote:

Super illegal?  Can you cite the laws that you imply were being broken?  

Spurdo wrote:
I only know my state, I imagine just about everyones laws are *reasonably* close. Focus on that last sentence. Thank you for your attention to this...
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I only know my state, I imagine just about everyones laws are *reasonably* close. Focus on that last sentence. Thank you for your attention to this matter. 

Can you elaborate how this law applies to this situation. Please feel free to explain to me like I’m a child because I don’t see where that caption you posted says the guy couldn’t have a firearm. He never pulled it out or brandished it. 

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1/24/2026 2:35pm

Looks like one of the agents secured his concealed carry and started walking away right before they started shooting him. 

Spurdo wrote:
CWP holder and law follower here. You CAN NOT tote a firearm into a hostile enviroment (such as a riot, or politically charged protest where members...
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CWP holder and law follower here. You CAN NOT tote a firearm into a hostile enviroment (such as a riot, or politically charged protest where members have been promising violence against law enforcement for WEEKS on social media) and ESCALATE said hostile environment with your firearm. Super illegal, will draw the ire of police, common sense firearm owners, and will quicky make yourself a target - as our latest gentlemen found out today. Several forum members here are willfully dodging the question of why this dude had a police presence on top of him in the first place, or something simplier - like why he wasnt at home with family, or being productive at work? He willfully made the decision to put himself in a bad place, with a firearm no less. Its actually comical the left is gonna push this as some sort of 2nd Ammendment violation, when they actually dont support it in the first place. 

If only he was there in support of ICE he could be a hero like this kid. Kyle Rittenhouse.  I know I know, it was different right?  

I said similar things about him doing what he was doing, or about anytime a " Good guy with a gun" is in a situation that they would be using it. But a holstered gun while you are surrounded on all sides by ICE agents doesn't seem like any type of threat unless its a threat by every cop that ever walks up to You with a holstered  firearm.

 

We have no idea why he had the gun.  Honestly I bet that a lot of people that are licensed would be armed if they lived in that area.  

 

 

 Its sad that another person is dead . Somebody that we know very little about right now. And that very likely somebodies family is now dealing with the loss of. Its sad what the world is becoming. I'm glad that the real world is still not as bad as it looks online and in the news. I hope that we can get together before it is and make peace again.   

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APLMAN99 wrote:

Super illegal?  Can you cite the laws that you imply were being broken?  

Spurdo wrote:
I only know my state, I imagine just about everyones laws are *reasonably* close. Focus on that last sentence. Thank you for your attention to this...
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I only know my state, I imagine just about everyones laws are *reasonably* close. Focus on that last sentence. Thank you for your attention to this matter. 

That blurb, which certainly doesn't cite any law, doesn't say anything backing yo8ur your claims that carrying near these disruptions is 'super illegal'.  

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Plot twist - I dont believe Rittenhouse was in the right. At all. 

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They would not be frantically trying to save the guys life if they didn’t know they fucked up. 
Where’s the gun, where’s the gun??

https://x.com/BulwarkOnline/status/2015136655468904815?s=20

truck wrote:
Tell me you don't know anything about these situations....They try to save the life of everyone they shoot. Every time. Hundreds of police shooting videos on...

Tell me you don't know anything about these situations....

They try to save the life of everyone they shoot. Every time. Hundreds of police shooting videos on the internet if you want to look for yourself. 

Guess you missed the last person they killed. They wouldn’t even let the paramedics roll up. Spare me. These guys were panicking. Do you not hear the...

Guess you missed the last person they killed. They wouldn’t even let the paramedics roll up. 
Spare me. These guys were panicking. Do you not hear the repeated question of where is the gun when they are moving him??

Tell me you know nothing about the recent history of ICE shootings. 

Secure the scene, render aid, in that order... it's not a complicated thing to understand. 

You don't want to be reasoned with so whatever, believe what you want to believe, but if you think rendering aid has anything to do with whether in that immediate moment they are thinking about whether the shoot was justified or not you just simply have no clue what you're talking about. They regularly give aid to people they're in full blown shootouts with that even morons recognize as being justified shoots.

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Plot twist - I dont believe Rittenhouse was in the right. At all. 

Wait, you mean your opinion on whether or not showing up to play citizen cop journalist with a gun at a protest is a good idea isn't based on who the crusader voted for? What's wrong with you? 

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