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ICE just killed another one. 8 ICE officers on one guy. video shows one of the agents remove the victim's gun from his holster, then they...

ICE just killed another one. 8 ICE officers on one guy. video shows one of the agents remove the victim's gun from his holster, then they shot him 12 times. 

It is legal to carry in Minnesota with a permit. 

The kicker? Several witnesses have been transported to detention centers.

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Well, then, why didn’t you post up said video…? You know, the one showing this going down the way you’re saying it did? 

Well, then, why didn’t you post up said video…? You know, the one showing this going down the way you’re saying it did? 

Its posted now, I didn't know that videos from X could be posted. Watch the guy in the gray jacket who runs towards the camera when the shooting starts, he has the victim's gun in his hand as he walks away. Also notice that while the victim is laying on the ground, already shot, not moving, and now unarmed, one officer just continues firing into him. 

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BH_84 wrote:
ICE just killed another one. 8 ICE officers on one guy. video shows one of the agents remove the victim's gun from his holster, then they...

ICE just killed another one. 8 ICE officers on one guy. video shows one of the agents remove the victim's gun from his holster, then they shot him 12 times. 

It is legal to carry in Minnesota with a permit. 

The kicker? Several witnesses have been transported to detention centers.

TeamGreen wrote:
Well, then, why didn’t you post up said video…? You know, the one showing this going down the way you’re saying it did? 

Well, then, why didn’t you post up said video…? You know, the one showing this going down the way you’re saying it did? 

BH_84 wrote:
Its posted now, I didn't know that videos from X could be posted. Watch the guy in the gray jacket who runs towards the camera when...

Its posted now, I didn't know that videos from X could be posted. Watch the guy in the gray jacket who runs towards the camera when the shooting starts, he has the victim's gun in his hand as he walks away. Also notice that while the victim is laying on the ground, already shot, not moving, and now unarmed, one officer just continues firing into him. 

Whose gun is in whose hand ain’t something I’m gonna establish from that video.

The acoustics of gun shots versus the activity I’m seeing? That sure as fuck doesn’t look right.

If that dude was ARMED & WAS NOT RELINQUISHING his fire arm? That’s also something that doesn’t look right. 

I -anyone- cares to argue about relinquishing your weapon to a Federal LEO…? Again, I’m not having that argument. I can simply read my carry permit and know what the law is.

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When will we hold those that organize and fund these violent protests accountable? Big thank you again to our men and women in law enforcement. 

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Spurdo wrote:

When will we hold those that organize and fund these violent protests accountable? Big thank you again to our men and women in law enforcement. 

You mean the Minneapolis PD right? Because ICE sure as hell isn't acting lawfully. 

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TeamGreen wrote:
Well, then, why didn’t you post up said video…? You know, the one showing this going down the way you’re saying it did? 

Well, then, why didn’t you post up said video…? You know, the one showing this going down the way you’re saying it did? 

BH_84 wrote:
Its posted now, I didn't know that videos from X could be posted. Watch the guy in the gray jacket who runs towards the camera when...

Its posted now, I didn't know that videos from X could be posted. Watch the guy in the gray jacket who runs towards the camera when the shooting starts, he has the victim's gun in his hand as he walks away. Also notice that while the victim is laying on the ground, already shot, not moving, and now unarmed, one officer just continues firing into him. 

TeamGreen wrote:
Whose gun is in whose hand ain’t something I’m gonna establish from that video.The acoustics of gun shots versus the activity I’m seeing? That sure as...

Whose gun is in whose hand ain’t something I’m gonna establish from that video.

The acoustics of gun shots versus the activity I’m seeing? That sure as fuck doesn’t look right.

If that dude was ARMED & WAS NOT RELINQUISHING his fire arm? That’s also something that doesn’t look right. 

I -anyone- cares to argue about relinquishing your weapon to a Federal LEO…? Again, I’m not having that argument. I can simply read my carry permit and know what the law is.

first video was shot from inside a building, second one is from just up the street. No angle on the struggle but you can definitely hear the gunshots as the agents back away. 

 

Also, in the first video, you can clearly see one of the agents repeatedly hitting the guy in the face with something that looks like a pistol or a can of pepper spray. 
 

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BH_84 wrote:
Its posted now, I didn't know that videos from X could be posted. Watch the guy in the gray jacket who runs towards the camera when...

Its posted now, I didn't know that videos from X could be posted. Watch the guy in the gray jacket who runs towards the camera when the shooting starts, he has the victim's gun in his hand as he walks away. Also notice that while the victim is laying on the ground, already shot, not moving, and now unarmed, one officer just continues firing into him. 

TeamGreen wrote:
Whose gun is in whose hand ain’t something I’m gonna establish from that video.The acoustics of gun shots versus the activity I’m seeing? That sure as...

Whose gun is in whose hand ain’t something I’m gonna establish from that video.

The acoustics of gun shots versus the activity I’m seeing? That sure as fuck doesn’t look right.

If that dude was ARMED & WAS NOT RELINQUISHING his fire arm? That’s also something that doesn’t look right. 

I -anyone- cares to argue about relinquishing your weapon to a Federal LEO…? Again, I’m not having that argument. I can simply read my carry permit and know what the law is.

BH_84 wrote:
first video was shot from inside a building, second one is from just up the street. No angle on the struggle but you can definitely hear...

first video was shot from inside a building, second one is from just up the street. No angle on the struggle but you can definitely hear the gunshots as the agents back away. 

 

Also, in the first video, you can clearly see one of the agents repeatedly hitting the guy in the face with something that looks like a pistol or a can of pepper spray. 
 

Here’s the guy who was shot. Where’s the video he was filming? Is it going to fit your narrative? https://x.com/kimkatieusa/status/2015108928280068167?s=46

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Here’s the guy who was shot. Where’s the video he was filming? Is it going to fit your narrative? https://x.com/kimkatieusa/status/2015108928280068167?s=46

Here’s the guy who was shot. Where’s the video he was filming? Is it going to fit your narrative? https://x.com/kimkatieusa/status/2015108928280068167?s=46

We'll never know, the guy is too dead to post it. 

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BH_84 wrote:

We'll never know, the guy is too dead to post it. 

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Here’s the guy who was shot. Where’s the video he was filming? Is it going to fit your narrative? https://x.com/kimkatieusa/status/2015108928280068167?s=46

Here’s the guy who was shot. Where’s the video he was filming? Is it going to fit your narrative? https://x.com/kimkatieusa/status/2015108928280068167?s=46

BH_84 wrote:

We'll never know, the guy is too dead to post it. 

Gee golly, did they shoot the phone too?

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TeamGreen wrote:
Well, then, why didn’t you post up said video…? You know, the one showing this going down the way you’re saying it did? 

Well, then, why didn’t you post up said video…? You know, the one showing this going down the way you’re saying it did? 

BH_84 wrote:
Its posted now, I didn't know that videos from X could be posted. Watch the guy in the gray jacket who runs towards the camera when...

Its posted now, I didn't know that videos from X could be posted. Watch the guy in the gray jacket who runs towards the camera when the shooting starts, he has the victim's gun in his hand as he walks away. Also notice that while the victim is laying on the ground, already shot, not moving, and now unarmed, one officer just continues firing into him. 

TeamGreen wrote:
Whose gun is in whose hand ain’t something I’m gonna establish from that video.The acoustics of gun shots versus the activity I’m seeing? That sure as...

Whose gun is in whose hand ain’t something I’m gonna establish from that video.

The acoustics of gun shots versus the activity I’m seeing? That sure as fuck doesn’t look right.

If that dude was ARMED & WAS NOT RELINQUISHING his fire arm? That’s also something that doesn’t look right. 

I -anyone- cares to argue about relinquishing your weapon to a Federal LEO…? Again, I’m not having that argument. I can simply read my carry permit and know what the law is.

Manny, a carry permit doesn’t create some automatic “relinquish your firearm on demand” rule.  Not in MN, not in CA, not federally. Being legally armed doesn’t mean you’re legally required to hand your gun over just because an agent asks, and nothing factual (yet) from the MN incident establishes that scenario anyway.


 

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Here’s the guy who was shot. Where’s the video he was filming? Is it going to fit your narrative? https://x.com/kimkatieusa/status/2015108928280068167?s=46

Here’s the guy who was shot. Where’s the video he was filming? Is it going to fit your narrative? https://x.com/kimkatieusa/status/2015108928280068167?s=46

BH_84 wrote:

We'll never know, the guy is too dead to post it. 

Gee golly, did they shoot the phone too?

Who, pray tell, do you think is going to post the video? ICE? Fat chance. 

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BH_84 wrote:

We'll never know, the guy is too dead to post it. 

Gee golly, did they shoot the phone too?

BH_84 wrote:
Who, pray tell, do you think is going to post the video? ICE? Fat chance. 

Who, pray tell, do you think is going to post the video? ICE? Fat chance. 

You'll see what they want you to see.

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Clip from before the arrest, looks like he’s just talking to them while filming before the agent starts pushing him back. 
 

Unfortunately the real question is what happened between the videos that have been posted. The lady in the pink coat from the first video appeared to be filming from the far side. That’s the angle that should show the whole truth. 

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Probably the best non-body cam angle we'll get from it.

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BH_84 wrote:

We'll never know, the guy is too dead to post it. 

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What a piece of shit you are...

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The confidence that both sides already have as to what happened isn't supported by any of the videos but it doesn't even matter if it was, people are going to believe what they want to believe. 

You have to be a very stupid person to go to any of these protests. It's not 1965 anymore, there's better ways to work towards your goals in 2026.

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Probably the best non-body cam angle we'll get from it.

This is murder, straight up. Shot in the back, all he tried to do was block the pepper spray, which wasn't even needed in the first place.

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Wow, so messed up.  I had heard there was another shooting but had not heard how it happened. I was hoping that they would be taking extra caution and trying to cool things down. Perhaps carrying less lethal weapons like many local PD also carry. Seems like a tazer could have been used in most of the shooting I've heard about. Keep in mind they do have tasers that shoot out little darts so You do not need to be on top of the person. 

  I see a lot of people talk about Obama deport  record amounts of people.  One thing that I'm not sure if it has been pointed out yet. Obama's ICE budget for both terms was more than 4 times LESS  than the ICE budget for 2026 ( as long as google provided  legit info).  Think about that.  roughly 16B for Obama's 8 years and $90B for 2026.  A lot of those funds are going to hiring new agents and there has been proof that they are not training everybody as much as they should. They were using AI to filter out applicants that were already law enforcement VS no experience.  New  to law enforcement get an 8 week course, current LE get a 4 week.  But the AI software was sending people that had used the word officer in their resumes to the LE trainings even if they had not LE experience.  Some that said they aspired to police officers. and other people who used the word officer in their resume that were not experienced in law enforcement. There has been  other reports of issues with training and vetting the new agents.  

 

 So the likelihood of new agents being out there with little training in a high stress situation is VERY high. it sounds like its pretty reckless to me . 

In Maine there was a press conference after a prison guard was taken into custody by ICE that was doing everything legally to become a US citizen according to the officer who spoke. They also said that ICE has been taking people and leaving their vehicles on the sides of the street for the local PD to deal with.  Leaving them sometimes running with the windows down, sometimes just the keys in the ignition, etc. But its happened enough they talked about it in the press conference. Seems very minor compared to the current situation out in MN though. I won't attach any links since it may derail the current conversation. I came to post some of what I posted before I knew about the new shooting. I was just walking out of my house when there was a live video of the shooting that popped up on Youtube so I knew that something happened, but no details.   

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Wow, so messed up.  I had heard there was another shooting but had not heard how it happened. I was hoping that they would be taking...

Wow, so messed up.  I had heard there was another shooting but had not heard how it happened. I was hoping that they would be taking extra caution and trying to cool things down. Perhaps carrying less lethal weapons like many local PD also carry. Seems like a tazer could have been used in most of the shooting I've heard about. Keep in mind they do have tasers that shoot out little darts so You do not need to be on top of the person. 

  I see a lot of people talk about Obama deport  record amounts of people.  One thing that I'm not sure if it has been pointed out yet. Obama's ICE budget for both terms was more than 4 times LESS  than the ICE budget for 2026 ( as long as google provided  legit info).  Think about that.  roughly 16B for Obama's 8 years and $90B for 2026.  A lot of those funds are going to hiring new agents and there has been proof that they are not training everybody as much as they should. They were using AI to filter out applicants that were already law enforcement VS no experience.  New  to law enforcement get an 8 week course, current LE get a 4 week.  But the AI software was sending people that had used the word officer in their resumes to the LE trainings even if they had not LE experience.  Some that said they aspired to police officers. and other people who used the word officer in their resume that were not experienced in law enforcement. There has been  other reports of issues with training and vetting the new agents.  

 

 So the likelihood of new agents being out there with little training in a high stress situation is VERY high. it sounds like its pretty reckless to me . 

In Maine there was a press conference after a prison guard was taken into custody by ICE that was doing everything legally to become a US citizen according to the officer who spoke. They also said that ICE has been taking people and leaving their vehicles on the sides of the street for the local PD to deal with.  Leaving them sometimes running with the windows down, sometimes just the keys in the ignition, etc. But its happened enough they talked about it in the press conference. Seems very minor compared to the current situation out in MN though. I won't attach any links since it may derail the current conversation. I came to post some of what I posted before I knew about the new shooting. I was just walking out of my house when there was a live video of the shooting that popped up on Youtube so I knew that something happened, but no details.   

Taser pretty worthless with thick winter clothes. Pepper spray used before the shooting didn't help. 

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1/24/2026 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 1/24/2026 12:27pm

That’s jackpot footage. 
Man, shit is gonna spiral out of control now. 
I heard MN police came to secure the scene and were fighting with ICE over the whole thing. 


 

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truck wrote:
The confidence that both sides already have as to what happened isn't supported by any of the videos but it doesn't even matter if it was...

The confidence that both sides already have as to what happened isn't supported by any of the videos but it doesn't even matter if it was, people are going to believe what they want to believe. 

You have to be a very stupid person to go to any of these protests. It's not 1965 anymore, there's better ways to work towards your goals in 2026.

"You have to be a very stupid person to go to any of these protests. It's not 1965 anymore, there's better ways to work towards your goals in 2026."

 

Don't you think that's a problem?  The right to protest is one of the big things that is what separates the US from other countries. Having to fear for your life when You are exercising a constitutional right is NOT making America great. I remember being a kid watching the protests in china and seeing people killed. And teachers saying " this would NEVER happen in the US! ".     

 

 Many people will say Obama deported many more and there wasn't any protesting or pushback. Maybe try going back and doing it he way they did back then.  If ICE was acting the way they are now, under Obama. You would have heard about it. There would be videos and photos.   There were people  around that time starting  the Defund the police movement. I'm sure that if ICE wa acting in a similar way that there would be some proof. Perhaps that's the main change and the issue that most people have. Sure You'll get some who are just mad because its Trump. But that's not what a lot of people are doing. They are made because of how things are being done. 

 

 The use of fear and violence seems like part of the plan.  Using it as part of the plan to try and prevent new people from coming here.  Kinda sad that there are real people being used like this.  

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1/24/2026 12:26pm Edited Date/Time 1/24/2026 12:27pm

I wonder if these folks have life insurance coverage from their rent a crowd employer? 

I am certain I will never be shot protesting the arrest of murders and child molesters..I feel like that’s not who I am giving up my life for..

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https://x.com/ryangrim/status/2015132217878384791?s=12

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Brad460 wrote:
I wonder if these folks have life insurance coverage from their rent a crowd employer? I am certain I will never be shot protesting the arrest of...

I wonder if these folks have life insurance coverage from their rent a crowd employer? 

I am certain I will never be shot protesting the arrest of murders and child molesters..I feel like that’s not who I am giving up my life for..

You’re really fucking stupid Brad if you don’t realize a ton of these people are there to protest on their own time and dime. 
I’m sure there is some organized groups but people are fucking pissed and now they are only going to get stronger. 
I’m sure you’re a decent guy man but you have some really dumb takes. 
I spoke to my coworker in Minneapolis yesterday about this. Regular folk are going out to protest. Not him, he’s conservative as hell. But he admitted the town is up in arms over this shit. 

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I thought for sure she would have been tossed in the back of an ICE rig and had her phone “disappeared”.

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Wow, so messed up.  I had heard there was another shooting but had not heard how it happened. I was hoping that they would be taking...

Wow, so messed up.  I had heard there was another shooting but had not heard how it happened. I was hoping that they would be taking extra caution and trying to cool things down. Perhaps carrying less lethal weapons like many local PD also carry. Seems like a tazer could have been used in most of the shooting I've heard about. Keep in mind they do have tasers that shoot out little darts so You do not need to be on top of the person. 

  I see a lot of people talk about Obama deport  record amounts of people.  One thing that I'm not sure if it has been pointed out yet. Obama's ICE budget for both terms was more than 4 times LESS  than the ICE budget for 2026 ( as long as google provided  legit info).  Think about that.  roughly 16B for Obama's 8 years and $90B for 2026.  A lot of those funds are going to hiring new agents and there has been proof that they are not training everybody as much as they should. They were using AI to filter out applicants that were already law enforcement VS no experience.  New  to law enforcement get an 8 week course, current LE get a 4 week.  But the AI software was sending people that had used the word officer in their resumes to the LE trainings even if they had not LE experience.  Some that said they aspired to police officers. and other people who used the word officer in their resume that were not experienced in law enforcement. There has been  other reports of issues with training and vetting the new agents.  

 

 So the likelihood of new agents being out there with little training in a high stress situation is VERY high. it sounds like its pretty reckless to me . 

In Maine there was a press conference after a prison guard was taken into custody by ICE that was doing everything legally to become a US citizen according to the officer who spoke. They also said that ICE has been taking people and leaving their vehicles on the sides of the street for the local PD to deal with.  Leaving them sometimes running with the windows down, sometimes just the keys in the ignition, etc. But its happened enough they talked about it in the press conference. Seems very minor compared to the current situation out in MN though. I won't attach any links since it may derail the current conversation. I came to post some of what I posted before I knew about the new shooting. I was just walking out of my house when there was a live video of the shooting that popped up on Youtube so I knew that something happened, but no details.   

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Taser pretty worthless with thick winter clothes. Pepper spray used before the shooting didn't help. 

 Why did they even need to shoot the guy this time?   I wonder how long it will be before an agent gets shot by another agent. They seem to often take shots with other agents in the line of fire.   

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The confidence that both sides already have as to what happened isn't supported by any of the videos but it doesn't even matter if it was...

The confidence that both sides already have as to what happened isn't supported by any of the videos but it doesn't even matter if it was, people are going to believe what they want to believe. 

You have to be a very stupid person to go to any of these protests. It's not 1965 anymore, there's better ways to work towards your goals in 2026.

"You have to be a very stupid person to go to any of these protests. It's not 1965 anymore, there's better ways to work towards your...

"You have to be a very stupid person to go to any of these protests. It's not 1965 anymore, there's better ways to work towards your goals in 2026."

 

Don't you think that's a problem?  The right to protest is one of the big things that is what separates the US from other countries. Having to fear for your life when You are exercising a constitutional right is NOT making America great. I remember being a kid watching the protests in china and seeing people killed. And teachers saying " this would NEVER happen in the US! ".     

 

 Many people will say Obama deported many more and there wasn't any protesting or pushback. Maybe try going back and doing it he way they did back then.  If ICE was acting the way they are now, under Obama. You would have heard about it. There would be videos and photos.   There were people  around that time starting  the Defund the police movement. I'm sure that if ICE wa acting in a similar way that there would be some proof. Perhaps that's the main change and the issue that most people have. Sure You'll get some who are just mad because its Trump. But that's not what a lot of people are doing. They are made because of how things are being done. 

 

 The use of fear and violence seems like part of the plan.  Using it as part of the plan to try and prevent new people from coming here.  Kinda sad that there are real people being used like this.  

I fully support the right to protest but it's mostly done for the sake of virtue signaling these days. It turns far more people against your cause than it gains you support and you can guarantee that at least some percentage of people there will make it their goal to create chaos. So you're not going to achieve the goals you're after,  and there's a not small chance you'll get yourself hurt. In my book that means only an idiot participates. 

This isn't a partisan issue for me. I feel the same way about protesting for right wing causes. 

The funny thing is if there were ever reason for the masses to truly protest in some principled way, the masses participating would instantly shut down the fringe elements who are only there to turn it into a circus. If the group was serious about the issue they'd never tolerate the nonsense. But that's never what we see.

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