Where's the outrage #2?

All you people claiming current events are to distract from the Epstein files, where's your outrage that Bill and Hillary Clinton wouldn't honor a legitimate subpoena to testify about their involvement with Epstein?

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I've got a crazy thought experiment for you. What happens if the full extents of the files were released when they were legally required to be and the Clinton's were implicated in them? Does that not solve the exact same problem you're describing now?

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Are you really surprised?? 

Bill and Hillary get their rocks off at the same pedo parties as every other elite. 

This isn’t a scandal drawn along party lines. 

No matter who’s been implicated all roads lead back to Israel being the ringleader and puppet master in all this. Disgusting people 

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Why isn’t everyone on the left screaming at the top of their lungs “no one is above the law”?

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There are only two camps that I've seen on Vital, one is, "investiage them all, they're probably all pieces of shit, send them down the river" the other is, "everyone is a monster but Trump, he's the one power hungry billionaire that somehow surrounds himself with awful people and is definitely not a sick pervert".

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R66 wrote:

Why isn’t everyone on the left screaming at the top of their lungs “no one is above the law”?

Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. 

The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump campaign was run on. 

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There are only two camps that I've seen on Vital, one is, "investiage them all, they're probably all pieces of shit, send them down the river"...

There are only two camps that I've seen on Vital, one is, "investiage them all, they're probably all pieces of shit, send them down the river" the other is, "everyone is a monster but Trump, he's the one power hungry billionaire that somehow surrounds himself with awful people and is definitely not a sick pervert".

Well said. 

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I was the first to bitch about it yesterday. I want all of them held accountable. In war there are almost always casualties. All of you saying “well maybe they can’t release them all because there’s people on the list that didn’t do anything bad and it will ruin their reputations”. Well put me in the group with being okay with that. Many of them on that list do not give a single fuck about casualties of war so why should we care more about them? Money is the only thing making them any different. 

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Real question - are byke and soggy the same persons? 

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I think that the Clintons should be punished for ignoring their subpoenas……..






……with the same punishment that Gym Jordan received for ignoring his!!!!


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R66 wrote:

Why isn’t everyone on the left screaming at the top of their lungs “no one is above the law”?

soggy wrote:
Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump...

Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. 

The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump campaign was run on. 

Why weren’t they released during the Biden administration ? He had 4 years. 

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Probably to protect the Clintons, and maybe in case Hillary wanted to run again. 

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R66 wrote:

Why isn’t everyone on the left screaming at the top of their lungs “no one is above the law”?

soggy wrote:
Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump...

Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. 

The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump campaign was run on. 

Bandito121 wrote:

Why weren’t they released during the Biden administration ? He had 4 years. 

Yea they should of been. And trump before that, and Obama before that. But that argument gets you nowhere. None of this should have been swept under the rug. 

Only one candidate platformed the releasing of them. Now that hes gotten cold feet should tell you everything you need to know. He ran a grift. 
 

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Real question - are byke and soggy the same persons? 

Please don’t insult Bykes intelligence like that. 

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Clinton’s won’t be prosecuted for the same reason the files themselves haven’t been released: to protect our Zionist overlords 

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They should be prosecuted for contempt of congress.  Every person in the files should be held accountable along with the FBI and DOJ that have done everything they can NOT to release the files. Nobody cares if they are left or right.  They all need to go down. 

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They should be prosecuted for contempt of congress.  Every person in the files should be held accountable along with the FBI and DOJ that have done...

They should be prosecuted for contempt of congress.  Every person in the files should be held accountable along with the FBI and DOJ that have done everything they can NOT to release the files. Nobody cares if they are left or right.  They all need to go down. 

It seems our government is extremely compromised. 

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R66 wrote:

Why isn’t everyone on the left screaming at the top of their lungs “no one is above the law”?

soggy wrote:
Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump...

Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. 

The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump campaign was run on. 

So the government had them for years before Trump was in office and nothing was done, but now it's Trump's fault? 🤣🤣

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1/14/2026 4:48pm Edited Date/Time 1/14/2026 4:51pm
R66 wrote:

Why isn’t everyone on the left screaming at the top of their lungs “no one is above the law”?

soggy wrote:
Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump...

Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. 

The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump campaign was run on. 

ToolMaker wrote:

So the government had them for years before Trump was in office and nothing was done, but now it's Trump's fault? 🤣🤣

TM

Yea I agree it’s fucked up.  See my post following that one  


And it’s not trumps fault. You are correct about that. But he ran on releasing them, something almost all of us agree on. And now they are trying hard not to and out should make any person go hmmmmm. 

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I was the first to bitch about it yesterday. I want all of them held accountable. In war there are almost always casualties. All of you...

I was the first to bitch about it yesterday. I want all of them held accountable. In war there are almost always casualties. All of you saying “well maybe they can’t release them all because there’s people on the list that didn’t do anything bad and it will ruin their reputations”. Well put me in the group with being okay with that. Many of them on that list do not give a single fuck about casualties of war so why should we care more about them? Money is the only thing making them any different. 

I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does not make them bad people. I'm not sure what the hold up is but we for sure don't have to ruin good people because we don't like bad people. But like everyone else, I'd like to know who and what. And we know for sure there were very close ties with the Clintons, both. It was NOT random connections at a high dollar fund raiser that they just both happened to be at. So why are the people screaming the loudest that they want to know are so deafening quiet that the Clintons ignored a subpoena. They were thrilled Steve Bannon got thrown in jail for the same thing. Will they be calling for jail time for the Clintons like they did Bannon?

TM

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soggy wrote:

It seems our government is extremely compromised. 

I think hell just froze over!

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soggy wrote:

It seems our government is extremely compromised. 

ToolMaker wrote:

I think hell just froze over!

I’ve been saying this for awhile. And it includes all parties. 

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I was the first to bitch about it yesterday. I want all of them held accountable. In war there are almost always casualties. All of you...

I was the first to bitch about it yesterday. I want all of them held accountable. In war there are almost always casualties. All of you saying “well maybe they can’t release them all because there’s people on the list that didn’t do anything bad and it will ruin their reputations”. Well put me in the group with being okay with that. Many of them on that list do not give a single fuck about casualties of war so why should we care more about them? Money is the only thing making them any different. 

ToolMaker wrote:
I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does...

I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does not make them bad people. I'm not sure what the hold up is but we for sure don't have to ruin good people because we don't like bad people. But like everyone else, I'd like to know who and what. And we know for sure there were very close ties with the Clintons, both. It was NOT random connections at a high dollar fund raiser that they just both happened to be at. So why are the people screaming the loudest that they want to know are so deafening quiet that the Clintons ignored a subpoena. They were thrilled Steve Bannon got thrown in jail for the same thing. Will they be calling for jail time for the Clintons like they did Bannon?

TM

Guilty by association.

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R66 wrote:

Why isn’t everyone on the left screaming at the top of their lungs “no one is above the law”?

soggy wrote:
Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump...

Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. 

The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump campaign was run on. 

Bandito121 wrote:

Why weren’t they released during the Biden administration ? He had 4 years. 

Kind of like why do presidents keep the 9/11 stuff locked away? Ask cheese420 he will have a nicer way of explaining it than I. 

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mvd61 wrote:
I was the first to bitch about it yesterday. I want all of them held accountable. In war there are almost always casualties. All of you...

I was the first to bitch about it yesterday. I want all of them held accountable. In war there are almost always casualties. All of you saying “well maybe they can’t release them all because there’s people on the list that didn’t do anything bad and it will ruin their reputations”. Well put me in the group with being okay with that. Many of them on that list do not give a single fuck about casualties of war so why should we care more about them? Money is the only thing making them any different. 

ToolMaker wrote:
I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does...

I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does not make them bad people. I'm not sure what the hold up is but we for sure don't have to ruin good people because we don't like bad people. But like everyone else, I'd like to know who and what. And we know for sure there were very close ties with the Clintons, both. It was NOT random connections at a high dollar fund raiser that they just both happened to be at. So why are the people screaming the loudest that they want to know are so deafening quiet that the Clintons ignored a subpoena. They were thrilled Steve Bannon got thrown in jail for the same thing. Will they be calling for jail time for the Clintons like they did Bannon?

TM

We should consider that the next time we arm Israel to lay waste to whoever. You know since all of a sudden the government cares about citizens in other countries. 

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ToolMaker wrote:
I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does...

I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does not make them bad people. I'm not sure what the hold up is but we for sure don't have to ruin good people because we don't like bad people. But like everyone else, I'd like to know who and what. And we know for sure there were very close ties with the Clintons, both. It was NOT random connections at a high dollar fund raiser that they just both happened to be at. So why are the people screaming the loudest that they want to know are so deafening quiet that the Clintons ignored a subpoena. They were thrilled Steve Bannon got thrown in jail for the same thing. Will they be calling for jail time for the Clintons like they did Bannon?

TM

Why is the current DoJ illegally redacting co-conspirators names? I’m still waiting for one of you to try giving a justifiable answer to this, instead it’s just crickets or deflections every single time.

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mvd61 wrote:
I was the first to bitch about it yesterday. I want all of them held accountable. In war there are almost always casualties. All of you...

I was the first to bitch about it yesterday. I want all of them held accountable. In war there are almost always casualties. All of you saying “well maybe they can’t release them all because there’s people on the list that didn’t do anything bad and it will ruin their reputations”. Well put me in the group with being okay with that. Many of them on that list do not give a single fuck about casualties of war so why should we care more about them? Money is the only thing making them any different. 

ToolMaker wrote:
I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does...

I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does not make them bad people. I'm not sure what the hold up is but we for sure don't have to ruin good people because we don't like bad people. But like everyone else, I'd like to know who and what. And we know for sure there were very close ties with the Clintons, both. It was NOT random connections at a high dollar fund raiser that they just both happened to be at. So why are the people screaming the loudest that they want to know are so deafening quiet that the Clintons ignored a subpoena. They were thrilled Steve Bannon got thrown in jail for the same thing. Will they be calling for jail time for the Clintons like they did Bannon?

TM

soggy wrote:

Guilty by association.

Being at the same function does not constitute "association". And I'm sure that's the attitude that needs avoiding.

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ToolMaker wrote:
I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does...

I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does not make them bad people. I'm not sure what the hold up is but we for sure don't have to ruin good people because we don't like bad people. But like everyone else, I'd like to know who and what. And we know for sure there were very close ties with the Clintons, both. It was NOT random connections at a high dollar fund raiser that they just both happened to be at. So why are the people screaming the loudest that they want to know are so deafening quiet that the Clintons ignored a subpoena. They were thrilled Steve Bannon got thrown in jail for the same thing. Will they be calling for jail time for the Clintons like they did Bannon?

TM

SKlein wrote:
Why is the current DoJ illegally redacting co-conspirators names? I’m still waiting for one of you to try giving a justifiable answer to this, instead it’s...

Why is the current DoJ illegally redacting co-conspirators names? I’m still waiting for one of you to try giving a justifiable answer to this, instead it’s just crickets or deflections every single time.

I don't know the answer to that but how do you know they are co-conspirators? If we were to look at it factually, the logical answer is they would not want to taint the jury pool with misleading information that is not full or in context. However, I don't think that's the correct reason. probably something more nefarious.

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1/14/2026 6:59pm Edited Date/Time 1/14/2026 7:06pm
ToolMaker wrote:
I don't know the answer to that but how do you know they are co-conspirators? If we were to look at it factually, the logical answer...

I don't know the answer to that but how do you know they are co-conspirators? If we were to look at it factually, the logical answer is they would not want to taint the jury pool with misleading information that is not full or in context. However, I don't think that's the correct reason. probably something more nefarious.

There’s instances where emails and/or documents specifically refers to them as such. There’s also no underlying context that they would be considered a victim, which is how the law was written. Massie for example has harped on the transparency flaws a number of times since the initial releases. By law, what they’re hiding is illegal, and protecting non-victims.

If you were interested in examples, this is a quick way to source it:

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mvd61 wrote:
I was the first to bitch about it yesterday. I want all of them held accountable. In war there are almost always casualties. All of you...

I was the first to bitch about it yesterday. I want all of them held accountable. In war there are almost always casualties. All of you saying “well maybe they can’t release them all because there’s people on the list that didn’t do anything bad and it will ruin their reputations”. Well put me in the group with being okay with that. Many of them on that list do not give a single fuck about casualties of war so why should we care more about them? Money is the only thing making them any different. 

ToolMaker wrote:
I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does...

I think there are a lot of people that happened to be at the same place, same time as Epstein. Just because they were there does not make them bad people. I'm not sure what the hold up is but we for sure don't have to ruin good people because we don't like bad people. But like everyone else, I'd like to know who and what. And we know for sure there were very close ties with the Clintons, both. It was NOT random connections at a high dollar fund raiser that they just both happened to be at. So why are the people screaming the loudest that they want to know are so deafening quiet that the Clintons ignored a subpoena. They were thrilled Steve Bannon got thrown in jail for the same thing. Will they be calling for jail time for the Clintons like they did Bannon?

TM

People are biased on both sides of the political isles.  They should upset and I'm sure that many are. 

 

 I've been avoiding the news. Taking a break  to clear my head and help stay neutral. I find it helps me have a less biased perspective when I take a step back for a bit. I see things clearer when I start following again.  That and I got a blister infected and it may turn me from Sasquatch to Old nine toes. So I've been busy with dr. appointments for myself on top of helping  my mom. 

 

I think they should all be held accountable.   Are You saying that Trump is  the same as those other presidents who did not release the info? 

 

I don't think that releasing info like this is normal. I remember the FBI director talking about how they do not put info out on people who will not be charged since they would be unable to defend themselves against the charges. It was why Muller did not  release  specific info or evidence of crimes they discovered after he found out that he couldn't file charges because he was a president. And releasing that info would be the same as assuming guilt . since there was no way to go to trial and prove innocence. Or something along those lines, memory is foggy as far as the exact terms and so on.  But the point being that its been a longtime DOJ policy.  

Having it voted on by the Senate and House, changes things .  

 

 As much as I want the people held accountable, I can understand why they wouldn't release names  with people being unable to have a day in court to prove their innocence. I'm torn on it as I think about it that way. But from most of the info out there now, it sounds like it was hard not to know what he was doing, and that is as bad as being involved if You are a person in the position of power that could have stopped Epstein from doing the stuff  he did. Its like a person who goes along for the ride to rob a bank, they are guilty by association.

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soggy wrote:
Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump...

Because you live in a right wing echo chamber. 

The question is why aren’t you upset the files aren’t out yet when it’s what the entire trump campaign was run on. 

Bandito121 wrote:

Why weren’t they released during the Biden administration ? He had 4 years. 

soggy wrote:
Yea they should of been. And trump before that, and Obama before that. But that argument gets you nowhere. None of this should have been swept...

Yea they should of been. And trump before that, and Obama before that. But that argument gets you nowhere. None of this should have been swept under the rug. 

Only one candidate platformed the releasing of them. Now that hes gotten cold feet should tell you everything you need to know. He ran a grift. 
 

I agree with your last paragraph. Regarding your first paragraph they were building a case and a trial of Epstein in 2019 and then Maxwell under the Biden administration. Releasing the epstein files before the trials wouldnt have been good.

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