Astars Tech-Air MX (it’s real now)

Does anyone know when the moto version will be available to the public? 

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f8MtujIrkbc?feature=share

Not set in stone but looking like fall now. 

It was hard to tell if Barcia’s went off when he hit or a split second before. He popped right up though and it looked like a relatively hard hit. 

It looks like when his shoulder hit the ground it went off. This thing isn’t meant to protect your collar bone or shoulder but had the bike came around and tackle him like we often see, there’s an insane amount of protection there now. Barcia was lucky to get to the side of the bike but watch how hard the subframe smacks the ground right where his back/spine could’ve been had he not been able to step off to the side. 

My brother broke his back when he came up short on a jump and he jumped over the bars but the bike hit him directly in the back after his body had already hit the ground himself. Something like this certainly would’ve helped vs the regular under-the-jersey roost guard he was wearing. I’m really excited to see more and more riders wearing these. 

Badass

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The SHOT SRG1 Airbag vest is already available for end consumers and has been for a while, and from what I can tell, it's the only airbag system currently truly aimed at motocross use. Everything else out there seems to be focused more on general offroad or adventure riding.

I recently got to test the SRG1 during a demo event and got "blown up", and the tech inside this thing is insane. The amount of data and real-time algorithmic processing is next-level and It is constantly being updated

It has level 2 D3O protection for the back and level 1 on the front which gives you a solid safety net even before the airbag activates. You can switch between three riding modes, MX, Adventure and Adventure race.

there is an option so that it after a crash can deflate letting you continue riding without feeling like you’re strapped to a balloon.

https://youtu.be/eJoG7qg50No?si=fubrF7ao_egDT52t 

Lots of info out now, since it recently released in limited sizes. One thing I’m still unsure of: anyone know if you can refill the argon canister or is it one and done?

Yes once you pop it you swap canisters. Think of it like a CO2 canister. 

If anyone has questions on these I’m pretty well versed on them. 

@Spooner I get swapping of canisters, but do you know if an emptied canister be user refilled?

As of now they are a one time use. I know they are investigating other methods and also to make them cheaper but nothing concrete right now. 

Thanks for the info!!!

It's on the radar to purchase since my daughter has been wearing a similar one for a few years now for equestrian events, but replacing the Argon canister at $100 per time seems a bit pricey. I'll need 4 on standby. 😂

Cool, thanks. 

I'm talking about myself. Her cartridges are basic CO2 for a BB gun. 

Anyone seen a table for sizing? The one Alpinestars has says a waist to shoulder measurement is what to use but then doesn't include that measurement in their sizing table. 

I was told to go with your jersey size. I wear a large and did get to try one on after I ordered mine and it was spot on. 

I’ve been comparing the Alpinestars Tech-Air MX with the SHOT SRG airbag system, and after looking into both, the SRG feels like the stronger option for riders who want something that keeps evolving over time, also it is a full protection with level 2 protection without deploying the Aribag.

One of the biggest differences for me is how the algorithm updates are handled. 

With the SRG, the system is designed to continuously evolve based on real-world rider data, so the detection logic keeps getting refined as more people ride with it and it has already been out for quite some time. That would mean the protection you get today is already better and can literally improve over time without needing to send anything back or schedule a service, behind the algorithm is Inmotion who have collected data for years and with that in mind it would be years ahead on rider data, the SRG also has one year of real rider data from users in MXGP.

On the other hand, with the Tech-Air MX, updates seem to be tied to servicing the system. In other words, the algorithm you’re running stays the same until you physically send the unit in. It’s still a solid and proven product, but it doesn’t feel as well thought  as the SRG approach.

From a purely rider-experience perspective, the idea that my safety gear is improving as the company gathers more data is a big plus, and it’s a major reason I’m leaning toward the SHOT SRG, and you can change the algorithm to waht type of riding youo are doing, Offroad, Motocross, Rally etc and it changes the deplyment algorithms.

Another thing when comparing these two is that the Alpinestars looks to be more of a roostguard as far as protection goes beyond the airbag itself, in the videos it also looks liek it is not protecting your intenals/gut are, it pops up and rises from your shoulder rather than "building" out from your body and stays in place.

Just my 2 cents to the airbags available for motocross  at the moment, i belive this will be mandatory in the future just like we se in MotoGP, and when our sport is evolving with better protection i am all for it.

The astars is also updated constantly. There is an app for the system that lets you know when updates are available. 

Regarding the inflator i just pressed SHOP on in&motions web and there it was, but maybe SHOT/SRG is not as present in USA as in Europe.

Personally i only se benefits of using in&motion, all the data they collect from all different brands using their technology, collecting vasts ammount of data compared to Alpinestars relying on only their riders.

But again, largest benefit for me is when not deploying it is level 2 back protector, but i am also the type that does not think a roostguard is enough protection for me so i am probably focusing more on that in a sence.

I looked at the SHOT site and it doesn't appear to be available in the US at all.  I'm glad there is competition on this front, it will only make better products for the riders. 

How many inflators does it come with?

Each inflator is one deployment, correct? 

Comes with 1 inflator.

Yes. You need 1 per deployment.

I've already had a deployment lol.

Ouch. Crashing is bad enough without adding a $100 bill. 

might be so,   but it shouldn't go off with just small tipovers.  As expensive as it is I feel they are going to sell like hotcakes in the vet community. rather fork out the $100 knowing im doing the best I can to protect myself.

You are not wrong. That is what I will tell myself when I'm shelling out the coin for one.