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Dan541 10/28/2025 3:54pm
10/28/2025 3:54pm
Dan541 wrote:

Person who had the most top 5 finishes in an LCQ, but never made a main event. Premier class.

JoeyNovice wrote:
The SevenDeuceDeuce's brother Tyler Enticknap finished fifth five times since AMA reverted back to taking four out of the LCQs in 2014. He's the only guy...

The SevenDeuceDeuce's brother Tyler Enticknap finished fifth five times since AMA reverted back to taking four out of the LCQs in 2014. He's the only guy with more than 1

I wrote this thinking of Tyler! Didn't know he was the King for Just Short though lol.

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inthebadboycorner 10/28/2025 4:28pm
10/28/2025 4:28pm
3strokemx wrote:

How does qualifying position (gate pick) compare to holeshot position?  

kage173 wrote:

Good one. And how has grates impacted that?

I think grates are not great, it grates on me how much the grates detract from real moto.

So in summary it would be great to get rid of the grates. Don't start me on holeshot devices.

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zippytech 10/28/2025 4:35pm
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Which rider is the cutest 

NO!

 

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JoeyNovice 10/28/2025 4:40pm
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Mr. Ted wrote:

Most hole shots followed by a win. SX or MX.

Holeshots are another thing I'm working on backdating this winter but as of right now, I have them to 2013.

Premier Class SX has seen the holeshot winner win the main 69 times (not including Triple Crown mains). Tomac has done it the most with 15.

Lites SX 62 times with Marvin Musquin doing so the most with 7.

I only have the last two years of holeshots for MX at the moment.

 

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JoeyNovice 10/28/2025 4:48pm
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mooch wrote:
Interesting stuff no doubt...you doing this in Access?  The data you use, was it all hand entered by you or have you found other sources where...

Interesting stuff no doubt...you doing this in Access?  The data you use, was it all hand entered by you or have you found other sources where you're able to import some of it? 

How about riders that qualified through the last chance and then went on to win the race? 

I started building this DB out over two years ago now in SQL and it's been a mix of scraping results, hand entry, parsing through PDFs, and combing through CycleNews archives. It's been quite the grind but I love it. Every time I think I'm content, I find or think of more stuff out there I can add. It's also led me to creating the smxmuse brand on social media and building the trivia game on my site.

Only four riders have ever won the LCQ and Main in the same night in the Premier Class: Ryan Villopoto, Eli Tomac, Nathan Ramsey, and Jeremy McGrath. I'm kind of surprised it hasn't happened more often especially in the era with no semis in the qualifying process.

It's happened eleven times in the Lites class and Ernesto Fonseca and Nate Thrasher are the only two that have done so twice.

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JoeyNovice 10/28/2025 4:49pm
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JoeyNovice. Are you a human android AI computer?  Haha. These stats and graphs you make are insane and super interesting. If you ever need a kitchen...

JoeyNovice. Are you a human android AI computer?  Haha. These stats and graphs you make are insane and super interesting. If you ever need a kitchen or bathroom demoed I’m your guy. Statistics and computer science is completely foreign and fascinating to me. Great work my man!  

I appreciate it! I might have to take you up on that some day! Stats and data are definitely my wheelhouse these days.

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BossWool2800 10/28/2025 5:08pm
10/28/2025 5:08pm
JoeyNovice wrote:
We are about a month into the offseason and I already miss digging around in my database to find unique stats for the riders and races...

We are about a month into the offseason and I already miss digging around in my database to find unique stats for the riders and races week in and week out.

If there is any stat, record, streak, leaderboard, or anything along those lines, that you guys are curious about, ask me here and I'll do my best to dive in and get an answer for you.

My database is only AMA SX, MX, and SMX so unfortunately I don't have anything for MXGPs or the old trans am races.

Fire away!

Do you have any pics of Eli and Chase on their new rides?

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msp332 10/28/2025 5:36pm
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Do you have data about how many times a rider is lapped in the same race?

Would like to see the plot of how many times lapped versus qualifying position. Really looking to see the riders lapped 2 and 3 times and how predictable that is before the gate drops. The longer speedway tracks will be noticeably different.

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3strokemx 10/28/2025 5:41pm
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Looking at 450 SX top 10 riders, what is the change in racer finishing positions for the first season on a new team compared to the prior season?

Do team changes generally help, hurt, or no effect?

Does moving from or to a certain brand seem to have an effect?

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RonSkj 10/28/2025 6:42pm
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RonSkj wrote:

Most # of attempts to qualify, with out making the main.     Alex Nagy?? 

JoeyNovice wrote:
Here are the five guys with the most qualifying appearances without making a main event, no class distinction.Nagy has 4 main event starts!
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Here are the five guys with the most qualifying appearances without making a main event, no class distinction.

Nagy has 4 main event starts!

Do you know how many qualifying appearances Nagy as had in getting into those 4 mains?

 

Dan541 10/28/2025 6:46pm
10/28/2025 6:46pm
mooch wrote:
Interesting stuff no doubt...you doing this in Access?  The data you use, was it all hand entered by you or have you found other sources where...

Interesting stuff no doubt...you doing this in Access?  The data you use, was it all hand entered by you or have you found other sources where you're able to import some of it? 

How about riders that qualified through the last chance and then went on to win the race? 

JoeyNovice wrote:
I started building this DB out over two years ago now in SQL and it's been a mix of scraping results, hand entry, parsing through PDFs...

I started building this DB out over two years ago now in SQL and it's been a mix of scraping results, hand entry, parsing through PDFs, and combing through CycleNews archives. It's been quite the grind but I love it. Every time I think I'm content, I find or think of more stuff out there I can add. It's also led me to creating the smxmuse brand on social media and building the trivia game on my site.

Only four riders have ever won the LCQ and Main in the same night in the Premier Class: Ryan Villopoto, Eli Tomac, Nathan Ramsey, and Jeremy McGrath. I'm kind of surprised it hasn't happened more often especially in the era with no semis in the qualifying process.

It's happened eleven times in the Lites class and Ernesto Fonseca and Nate Thrasher are the only two that have done so twice.

I thought Dungey did it too. The night his rear shock just died on the starting gate of the heat? Can't remember place or year, but I'm certain he did it too.

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JoeyNovice 10/28/2025 7:35pm
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mooch wrote:
Interesting stuff no doubt...you doing this in Access?  The data you use, was it all hand entered by you or have you found other sources where...

Interesting stuff no doubt...you doing this in Access?  The data you use, was it all hand entered by you or have you found other sources where you're able to import some of it? 

How about riders that qualified through the last chance and then went on to win the race? 

JoeyNovice wrote:
I started building this DB out over two years ago now in SQL and it's been a mix of scraping results, hand entry, parsing through PDFs...

I started building this DB out over two years ago now in SQL and it's been a mix of scraping results, hand entry, parsing through PDFs, and combing through CycleNews archives. It's been quite the grind but I love it. Every time I think I'm content, I find or think of more stuff out there I can add. It's also led me to creating the smxmuse brand on social media and building the trivia game on my site.

Only four riders have ever won the LCQ and Main in the same night in the Premier Class: Ryan Villopoto, Eli Tomac, Nathan Ramsey, and Jeremy McGrath. I'm kind of surprised it hasn't happened more often especially in the era with no semis in the qualifying process.

It's happened eleven times in the Lites class and Ernesto Fonseca and Nate Thrasher are the only two that have done so twice.

Dan541 wrote:
I thought Dungey did it too. The night his rear shock just died on the starting gate of the heat? Can't remember place or year, but...

I thought Dungey did it too. The night his rear shock just died on the starting gate of the heat? Can't remember place or year, but I'm certain he did it too.

You are right, he made it out of the LCQ that night but got second place in it. I misread the original question. I pulled LCQ winners/main winners rather than LCQ qualifiers/main winners

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JoeyNovice 10/28/2025 7:37pm
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RonSkj wrote:

Most # of attempts to qualify, with out making the main.     Alex Nagy?? 

JoeyNovice wrote:
Here are the five guys with the most qualifying appearances without making a main event, no class distinction.Nagy has 4 main event starts!
image 2273

Here are the five guys with the most qualifying appearances without making a main event, no class distinction.

Nagy has 4 main event starts!

RonSkj wrote:

Do you know how many qualifying appearances Nagy as had in getting into those 4 mains?

 

He's appeared in 174 qualifiers

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SEEMEFIRST 10/28/2025 7:37pm
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RonSkj wrote:

Most # of attempts to qualify, with out making the main.     Alex Nagy?? 

Harmon?

I should really learn to read through a string before replying...

I bricked on Wennerstrom, I should have known.  Both are "Locals".

Wennerstrom's dad pulled the "Do you know who I am?" on me one night. I told him that I didn't care who he was, what matters is who I am because I'm the one enforcing the rules.

He said he was about to kick my ass, and that's when I asked him how many of these 7 flags would he liked shoved up his ass.

He left the flagstand and went and found the owner. The  owner had the uncanny ability to tell you to go to hell, and make you enjoy the trip. He evidently pointed at me and said: "That guy is running this place, I just write checks, and make sure my team are taken care of".

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JoeyNovice 10/28/2025 7:46pm
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3strokemx wrote:
Looking at 450 SX top 10 riders, what is the change in racer finishing positions for the first season on a new team compared to the...

Looking at 450 SX top 10 riders, what is the change in racer finishing positions for the first season on a new team compared to the prior season?

Do team changes generally help, hurt, or no effect?

Does moving from or to a certain brand seem to have an effect?

I love these questions too. I will definitely try and do a deep dive on it. For now I'll hand pick a few.

Just looking at SX:

Eli Tomac's last year on Honda (2015) - 5.24 avg main finish

Eli Tomac's first year on Kawasaki (2016) - 5.00 avg main finish

Chase Sexton's last year on Honda (2023) - 2.76 avg main finish (Championship)

Chase Sexton's first year on KTM (2024) - 5.06 avg main finish

Cooper Webb's last year on Yamaha (2018) - 9.15 avg main finish

Cooper Webb's first year on KTM (2019) - 2.88 avg main finish (Championship)

Ryan Dungey's last year on Suzuki (2011) - 3.82 avg main finish

Ryan Dungey's first year on KTM (2012) - 2.50 avg main finish

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JoeyNovice 10/28/2025 7:48pm
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RonSkj wrote:

Most # of attempts to qualify, with out making the main.     Alex Nagy?? 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Harmon?I should really learn to read through a string before replying...I bricked on Wennerstrom, I should have known.  Both are "Locals".Wennerstrom's dad pulled the "Do you...

Harmon?

I should really learn to read through a string before replying...

I bricked on Wennerstrom, I should have known.  Both are "Locals".

Wennerstrom's dad pulled the "Do you know who I am?" on me one night. I told him that I didn't care who he was, what matters is who I am because I'm the one enforcing the rules.

He said he was about to kick my ass, and that's when I asked him how many of these 7 flags would he liked shoved up his ass.

He left the flagstand and went and found the owner. The  owner had the uncanny ability to tell you to go to hell, and make you enjoy the trip. He evidently pointed at me and said: "That guy is running this place, I just write checks, and make sure my team are taken care of".

Cheyenne Harmon has 104 total SX qual appearances and 9 main event starts

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SEEMEFIRST 10/28/2025 7:53pm
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RonSkj wrote:

Most # of attempts to qualify, with out making the main.     Alex Nagy?? 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Harmon?I should really learn to read through a string before replying...I bricked on Wennerstrom, I should have known.  Both are "Locals".Wennerstrom's dad pulled the "Do you...

Harmon?

I should really learn to read through a string before replying...

I bricked on Wennerstrom, I should have known.  Both are "Locals".

Wennerstrom's dad pulled the "Do you know who I am?" on me one night. I told him that I didn't care who he was, what matters is who I am because I'm the one enforcing the rules.

He said he was about to kick my ass, and that's when I asked him how many of these 7 flags would he liked shoved up his ass.

He left the flagstand and went and found the owner. The  owner had the uncanny ability to tell you to go to hell, and make you enjoy the trip. He evidently pointed at me and said: "That guy is running this place, I just write checks, and make sure my team are taken care of".

JoeyNovice wrote:

Cheyenne Harmon has 104 total SX qual appearances and 9 main event starts

Nicely done. 

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