Vialle Chooses to sit out 2nd moto

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8/25/2025 3:19pm

Pretty typical of the French to wave the white flag, I’m just saying…

This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for France's surrender was not to do with the cowardice of the troops but the terrible strategy and organisation of the army leadership. 

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I generally like and respect Chase but it really pisses me off when any athlete who gets paid millions of dollars to to play or compete...

I generally like and respect Chase but it really pisses me off when any athlete who gets paid millions of dollars to to play or compete in a sport feels like they are making some kind of huge sacrifice or providing some sort of service to the fans beyond entertainment.  No, Chase, you and your fellow competitors are not “giving your lives” for this sport.  You are getting paid millions of dollars to play a game, work out, travel the world, be semi-famous, retire before 30 of you so choose, and have the rest of your life to live with freedom that few will ever know.

Not to mention that you can leave the sport anytime you want. 

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I generally like and respect Chase but it really pisses me off when any athlete who gets paid millions of dollars to to play or compete...

I generally like and respect Chase but it really pisses me off when any athlete who gets paid millions of dollars to to play or compete in a sport feels like they are making some kind of huge sacrifice or providing some sort of service to the fans beyond entertainment.  No, Chase, you and your fellow competitors are not “giving your lives” for this sport.  You are getting paid millions of dollars to play a game, work out, travel the world, be semi-famous, retire before 30 of you so choose, and have the rest of your life to live with freedom that few will ever know.

OwenJakes wrote:
He should have to say that face to face with a firefighter, teacher, and pastor and give them all a good laugh. "Gave my life" entails...

He should have to say that face to face with a firefighter, teacher, and pastor and give them all a good laugh. "Gave my life" entails a sacrifice, what chase means is "I invested my life". 

Comparing a firefighter to a pastor? 

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Pretty typical of the French to wave the white flag, I’m just saying…

crusty_xx wrote:

Sounds to me like the bike prepped by American mechanics threw in the white flag first

Sounds to me like the shock engineered, manufactured and tuned by Austrians threw in the white flag first

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8/25/2025 4:02pm Edited Date/Time 8/25/2025 4:09pm
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Typical comment from people that hasnt been at the top and not actually risking their life on the track 🙄.Im sorry, but its ignorant saying training...

Typical comment from people that hasnt been at the top and not actually risking their life on the track 🙄.

Im sorry, but its ignorant saying training and traveling the world is a benefit when you are a pro athlete in this sport. Its not Dart we are talking about where you have a beer between sessions.

I travel the world working, its not a fucking benefit, its a pain in the ass.

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Boohoo! How bout getting up at 4am for the last 47 years every day and going to work and risking your life for peanuts by comparison...

Boohoo! How bout getting up at 4am for the last 47 years every day and going to work and risking your life for peanuts by comparison. Wanna trade? I highly doubt it! Shut your face.

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So that's the actual thing that bothers you, you are just pissed because you still have to do that, after 47 years.There is a word for...

So that's the actual thing that bothers you, you are just pissed because you still have to do that, after 47 years.

There is a word for it. Jealously, and it ain't a pretty thing.

Let's compare it to the soldiers at the front of the Ukrain war. You have a bed you can sleep in and you also have been able to do it for 47y, meaning you survived. You, are spoiled.

So, stop complaining. There will always be someone who has it worse than you.

No, not jealous in the least, I think it’s great these kids are making a living racing. But it’s the easy life compared to the average everyday guy like myself. I suppose compared to lots of people, I am spoiled when you put it like that, aren’t we all then? But then again not nearly as spoiled as a professional MX rider. You think any one of these kids would choose my road over theirs?   That’s a rhetorical question because we both know the answer.😂

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8/25/2025 4:04pm

Pretty typical of the French to wave the white flag, I’m just saying…

crusty_xx wrote:

Sounds to me like the bike prepped by American mechanics threw in the white flag first

GrapeApe wrote:

Sounds to me like the shock engineered, manufactured and tuned by Austrians threw in the white flag first

Yeah back in January. Then it was up to the team to find a fix. 8 months and nothing 

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aees wrote:
Typical comment from people that hasnt been at the top and not actually risking their life on the track 🙄.Im sorry, but its ignorant saying training...

Typical comment from people that hasnt been at the top and not actually risking their life on the track 🙄.

Im sorry, but its ignorant saying training and traveling the world is a benefit when you are a pro athlete in this sport. Its not Dart we are talking about where you have a beer between sessions.

I travel the world working, its not a fucking benefit, its a pain in the ass.

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Your chart is “by sport” which shows you lack perspective.From Google/AI:Firefighter FatalitiesTotal Deaths: 62 on-duty firefighter fatalities in 2024.Law Enforcement FatalitiesTotal Deaths: 148 officers...

Your chart is “by sport” which shows you lack perspective.

From Google/AI:

Firefighter Fatalities

Total Deaths: 62 on-duty firefighter fatalities in 2024.

Law Enforcement Fatalities

Total Deaths: 148 officers died in the line of duty in 2024. 

Not to mention the average of around 900 military service members who make the ultimate sacrifice (during peacetime) every year.

Sports doesn’t even make the list for dangerous, non law-enforcement/firefighter or military jobs.
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Totally inaccurate 25.8 per hr maybe in trucking 250-300 k truckers die every yr. Military during 2 wars numbers where very low 04 to 2018. More people died in bath tubs each yr. 

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I generally like and respect Chase but it really pisses me off when any athlete who gets paid millions of dollars to to play or compete...

I generally like and respect Chase but it really pisses me off when any athlete who gets paid millions of dollars to to play or compete in a sport feels like they are making some kind of huge sacrifice or providing some sort of service to the fans beyond entertainment.  No, Chase, you and your fellow competitors are not “giving your lives” for this sport.  You are getting paid millions of dollars to play a game, work out, travel the world, be semi-famous, retire before 30 of you so choose, and have the rest of your life to live with freedom that few will ever know.

OwenJakes wrote:
He should have to say that face to face with a firefighter, teacher, and pastor and give them all a good laugh. "Gave my life" entails...

He should have to say that face to face with a firefighter, teacher, and pastor and give them all a good laugh. "Gave my life" entails a sacrifice, what chase means is "I invested my life". 

Herr Lich wrote:

Comparing a firefighter to a pastor? 

100%. The firefighters at our church would happily tell you our pastor is their mentor and that they admire him deeply - and vice versa. 

Sorry you live in a sour little echo chamber and don’t know any men like this. 

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Pretty typical of the French to wave the white flag, I’m just saying…

Herr Lich wrote:
This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for...

This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for France's surrender was not to do with the cowardice of the troops but the terrible strategy and organisation of the army leadership. 

Man good point imagine if the US would have surrendered after 125k casualties.  

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He should have borrowed a shock from RJ. He didn’t seem to have any problems this year. 

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MPJC wrote:

He should have borrowed a shock from RJ. He didn’t seem to have any problems this year. 

Not true. He's talked about his suspension issues in interviews a few times. He's done well despite it, but he's had issues. Malcolm even said recently that he decided to just accept it and learn to ride with it instead of making changes chasing it. he didn't say he was leaving it alone because it was good. 

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MPJC wrote:

He should have borrowed a shock from RJ. He didn’t seem to have any problems this year. 

truck wrote:
Not true. He's talked about his suspension issues in interviews a few times. He's done well despite it, but he's had issues. Malcolm even said recently...

Not true. He's talked about his suspension issues in interviews a few times. He's done well despite it, but he's had issues. Malcolm even said recently that he decided to just accept it and learn to ride with it instead of making changes chasing it. he didn't say he was leaving it alone because it was good. 

I stand corrected. Kudos to RJ for doing so well. I’ve been very impressed by him this season - even more so now. 

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8/25/2025 5:28pm Edited Date/Time 8/25/2025 5:28pm

Pretty typical of the French to wave the white flag, I’m just saying…

Herr Lich wrote:
This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for...

This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for France's surrender was not to do with the cowardice of the troops but the terrible strategy and organisation of the army leadership. 

Why do the French have beautiful trees along all of their roads? 


Because the Germans like marching in the shade

 

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Seriously…

When did KTM shocks start breaking? Sounds like a problem with internals, pretty scary to start a race thinking the suspension is going to fail..

KTM has a big chunk of the responsibility here if this is a long term, repetitive problem. 

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Gravel wrote:
Seriously…When did KTM shocks start breaking? Sounds like a problem with internals, pretty scary to start a race thinking the suspension is going to fail..KTM has...

Seriously…

When did KTM shocks start breaking? Sounds like a problem with internals, pretty scary to start a race thinking the suspension is going to fail..

KTM has a big chunk of the responsibility here if this is a long term, repetitive problem. 

I was wondering the same thing. These KTM bikes have been very successful for years. Dungey, Anderson, Sexton, RJ, and Webb won titles without any complaints about the shock that I can recall (I recall Webb wanting KYB forks but I don’t remember the shock being an issue). Vialle just won a supercross title on the bike so the shock had to have been rideable to do that. It’s not like we’re talking about new technology. This just doesn’t make sense. What did they do that shocks are now unreliable to the point of being dangerous? They seriously can’t find a reliable shock to put on the bike? This doesn’t make any sense to me (which I’ll grant, doesn’t mean much).  

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Paging ML: Has a factory team ever created some sort of heat shield to go between the shock and the engine/exhaust? 

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Or if the heat problem is coming from the shock itself, have they ever tried adding heat sink fins to the shock reservoir? See below 


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Gravel wrote:
Seriously…When did KTM shocks start breaking? Sounds like a problem with internals, pretty scary to start a race thinking the suspension is going to fail..KTM has...

Seriously…

When did KTM shocks start breaking? Sounds like a problem with internals, pretty scary to start a race thinking the suspension is going to fail..

KTM has a big chunk of the responsibility here if this is a long term, repetitive problem. 

MPJC wrote:
I was wondering the same thing. These KTM bikes have been very successful for years. Dungey, Anderson, Sexton, RJ, and Webb won titles without any complaints...

I was wondering the same thing. These KTM bikes have been very successful for years. Dungey, Anderson, Sexton, RJ, and Webb won titles without any complaints about the shock that I can recall (I recall Webb wanting KYB forks but I don’t remember the shock being an issue). Vialle just won a supercross title on the bike so the shock had to have been rideable to do that. It’s not like we’re talking about new technology. This just doesn’t make sense. What did they do that shocks are now unreliable to the point of being dangerous? They seriously can’t find a reliable shock to put on the bike? This doesn’t make any sense to me (which I’ll grant, doesn’t mean much).  

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Pretty typical of the French to wave the white flag, I’m just saying…

Herr Lich wrote:
This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for...

This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for France's surrender was not to do with the cowardice of the troops but the terrible strategy and organisation of the army leadership. 

Man good point imagine if the US would have surrendered after 125k casualties.  

Exactly.  FFS.  In their backyard no less.  Sheesh.

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8/25/2025 7:23pm Edited Date/Time 8/26/2025 2:25pm
Herr Lich wrote:
This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for...

This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for France's surrender was not to do with the cowardice of the troops but the terrible strategy and organisation of the army leadership. 

Man good point imagine if the US would have surrendered after 125k casualties.  

MotoDad32 wrote:

Exactly.  FFS.  In their backyard no less.  Sheesh.

My point is not to do with the decisions of the French military and political leaders. It's just pointing out that surrender does not indicate cowardice from the average French soldier. At any rate if you knew anything about history and especially military history you'd know that military defeat oftentimes has little to do with cowardice. Also, your stupid comments seem to include the French as a whole. What about the French soldiers in WW1 who fought on the Western Front for four and a half years? The US, as you may remember, only showed up for the last year of the war....

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Almost on cue, sexton himself weighs in. 

Herr Lich wrote:

Can someone tell these riders not to weigh in on social media comments. This kind of 'engagement' doesn't help anything. 

Knowing what we know, it actually helps quite a lot.

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I don’t know all the details . But if the rear shock had been breaking down I’d be worried about it to. Especially since he is leaving ktm

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Pretty typical of the French to wave the white flag, I’m just saying…

Herr Lich wrote:
This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for...

This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for France's surrender was not to do with the cowardice of the troops but the terrible strategy and organisation of the army leadership. 

Man good point imagine if the US would have surrendered after 125k casualties.  

The French were the elite solders in ww1. We had no exp on the world stage.we only had exp fighting Indians for 300 yrs.  The French taught us how to fight & where very concerned we would never be ready.  D Day 25k French civilians were killed day 1. 2,501 American solders .  A 12 yr old German boy killed the most 1,202 some say 2k I think that’s high.  Ovr 1,200 war ships , 6-8k air craft shelled the beach . Impossible for a German to get a shot off. We had paratroopers also. Germany used boys as young as 8 to fight.  My mom was in ww2 in Holland near the German boarder . Women & children blew up train bridges .  Much more brutal how they killed the children & women than the solders in war . 

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Gravel wrote:
Seriously…When did KTM shocks start breaking? Sounds like a problem with internals, pretty scary to start a race thinking the suspension is going to fail..KTM has...

Seriously…

When did KTM shocks start breaking? Sounds like a problem with internals, pretty scary to start a race thinking the suspension is going to fail..

KTM has a big chunk of the responsibility here if this is a long term, repetitive problem. 

MPJC wrote:
I was wondering the same thing. These KTM bikes have been very successful for years. Dungey, Anderson, Sexton, RJ, and Webb won titles without any complaints...

I was wondering the same thing. These KTM bikes have been very successful for years. Dungey, Anderson, Sexton, RJ, and Webb won titles without any complaints about the shock that I can recall (I recall Webb wanting KYB forks but I don’t remember the shock being an issue). Vialle just won a supercross title on the bike so the shock had to have been rideable to do that. It’s not like we’re talking about new technology. This just doesn’t make sense. What did they do that shocks are now unreliable to the point of being dangerous? They seriously can’t find a reliable shock to put on the bike? This doesn’t make any sense to me (which I’ll grant, doesn’t mean much).  

Hmmm...Dungey had a rear air shock lose pressure on the start line of an SX before the gate even dropped. Can't remember the year, or event, but it happened.

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Gravel wrote:
Seriously…When did KTM shocks start breaking? Sounds like a problem with internals, pretty scary to start a race thinking the suspension is going to fail..KTM has...

Seriously…

When did KTM shocks start breaking? Sounds like a problem with internals, pretty scary to start a race thinking the suspension is going to fail..

KTM has a big chunk of the responsibility here if this is a long term, repetitive problem. 

MPJC wrote:
I was wondering the same thing. These KTM bikes have been very successful for years. Dungey, Anderson, Sexton, RJ, and Webb won titles without any complaints...

I was wondering the same thing. These KTM bikes have been very successful for years. Dungey, Anderson, Sexton, RJ, and Webb won titles without any complaints about the shock that I can recall (I recall Webb wanting KYB forks but I don’t remember the shock being an issue). Vialle just won a supercross title on the bike so the shock had to have been rideable to do that. It’s not like we’re talking about new technology. This just doesn’t make sense. What did they do that shocks are now unreliable to the point of being dangerous? They seriously can’t find a reliable shock to put on the bike? This doesn’t make any sense to me (which I’ll grant, doesn’t mean much).  

AHRMA361 wrote:
Hmmm...Dungey had a rear air shock lose pressure on the start line of an SX before the gate even dropped. Can't remember the year, or event...

Hmmm...Dungey had a rear air shock lose pressure on the start line of an SX before the gate even dropped. Can't remember the year, or event, but it happened.

I believe you mean Andrew Short because that happend to him when he was on the air shock. 

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8/25/2025 11:14pm

Pretty typical of the French to wave the white flag, I’m just saying…

Herr Lich wrote:
This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for...

This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for France's surrender was not to do with the cowardice of the troops but the terrible strategy and organisation of the army leadership. 

The French throughout history lost but also won a lot of wars. They eventually won with the allies in WW1 and WW2. Yeah, the Nazi Blitzkrieg invasion was a disaster on many levels as well as getting beat by the Viet Minh in Vietnam. 

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Pretty typical of the French to wave the white flag, I’m just saying…

Herr Lich wrote:
This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for...

This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for France's surrender was not to do with the cowardice of the troops but the terrible strategy and organisation of the army leadership. 

Man good point imagine if the US would have surrendered after 125k casualties.  

Funny the Americans bag out the French. You realise you were losing the civil war until France put every bit of money they had to stop the British from taking over America. Maybe show some respect to them. 

However, Herr Lich. The French have literally waved the white flag every time and as soon as possible. 

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He should have to say that face to face with a firefighter, teacher, and pastor and give them all a good laugh. "Gave my life" entails...

He should have to say that face to face with a firefighter, teacher, and pastor and give them all a good laugh. "Gave my life" entails a sacrifice, what chase means is "I invested my life". 

Herr Lich wrote:

Comparing a firefighter to a pastor? 

OwenJakes wrote:
100%. The firefighters at our church would happily tell you our pastor is their mentor and that they admire him deeply - and vice versa. Sorry you...

100%. The firefighters at our church would happily tell you our pastor is their mentor and that they admire him deeply - and vice versa. 

Sorry you live in a sour little echo chamber and don’t know any men like this. 

You are just a delusional Christian. They said "mentor" not the job is the same and they also give their lives daily. 

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Herr Lich wrote:
This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for...

This view is pretty fucked. The French lost 125,000 men killed during the early stages of the German invasion of France in WW2. The reason for France's surrender was not to do with the cowardice of the troops but the terrible strategy and organisation of the army leadership. 

Man good point imagine if the US would have surrendered after 125k casualties.  

JnDubZ wrote:
Funny the Americans bag out the French. You realise you were losing the civil war until France put every bit of money they had to stop...

Funny the Americans bag out the French. You realise you were losing the civil war until France put every bit of money they had to stop the British from taking over America. Maybe show some respect to them. 

However, Herr Lich. The French have literally waved the white flag every time and as soon as possible. 

Says the Aussies that lost to Emus!!!!!!

 

I know, I know, go back to my sheep

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