Is Reed the modern day Brad Lackey?

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Different careers yes, but both great champs. However, Lackey was left high and dry by the moto industry after his '82 world title (made a cameo on a private YZ490 in '83 at Carlsbad and was done). Is Reedy going to suffer a similar fate? Can't believe he could be done.
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money dictates everything
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I remember hearing an interview with Lackey, it may have been on MXfiles I'm not positive, where he said something to the effect that he set his price very high because he really wasn't that motivated to race after winning the title. He said he was actually relieved that his demands were not met.
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And I'm pretty sure the industry didn't close Reed out - he walked away from the option to continue another year at Kawi.
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Shenzi 10/8/2010 8:21am
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Reed has not been left "high and dry". He made some decisions to change things and is sticking with his ideas. The world and the economy has tremendously changed too in the past 2 years and the reality of things has reduced the amount of $$ companies are willing to spend.
All this over producing of gear, 50 colors per line, 3 lines per collections, 2 collections per year, all with low margins and high marketing dollars spent in racing has caught up with many; riders don't sell that much anymore and the ROI isn't justifying the high dollars needed by some.

Reed has an idea on what he would need to go race in the best conditions and he is sticking to it. At 29 I think he knows what he want now.

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neverwasfastenuf 10/8/2010 8:26am
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O'Show and Barnett were other past champions that got caught up in tough times in the motocross game due to the strong field of talent at the time and their amount of remaining productive years.
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Based on the available evidence it's seeming more and more likely to me that Reed is going to be on the Australian owned JDR team.

I get the feeling his Australian ties are a lot stronger than many people realise.
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RMZ819 10/8/2010 9:21am
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I think Reeds problem is the word team is spelled with all I 's. Reed is a all about me kinda of a guy and at this point of his career he will never be the number 1 guy for any team.

Reed has no bargaining power anymore.
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I think Reed's problem is that he's won his championships, established himself as one of the greatest SX riders of all time, and is quite possibly the wealthiest motocross racer of all time. Therefore at this point in his career he has the luxury of not needing fat factory contracts and can go racing on his terms and in exactly the way that he wants to.
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Who's Brad Lackey?
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RMZ819 wrote:
I think Reeds problem is the word team is spelled with all I 's. Reed is a all about me kinda of a guy and at...
I think Reeds problem is the word team is spelled with all I 's. Reed is a all about me kinda of a guy and at this point of his career he will never be the number 1 guy for any team.

Reed has no bargaining power anymore.
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ando wrote:
I think Reed's problem is that he's won his championships, established himself as one of the greatest SX riders of all time, and is quite possibly...
I think Reed's problem is that he's won his championships, established himself as one of the greatest SX riders of all time, and is quite possibly the wealthiest motocross racer of all time. Therefore at this point in his career he has the luxury of not needing fat factory contracts and can go racing on his terms and in exactly the way that he wants to.
wealthiest? That seems far fetched in my opinion. I think he's alienated enough people in the industry with his interviews, comes across as ungrateful plus he's priced himself too high, but someone will pick him up.
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indy_maico 10/8/2010 9:59am
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I thought he said he wanted to go car racing.

He'll end up in the Aussie V8 Supercar series. I saw him drive in a Mustang Challenge race at Miller Motorsports Park a couple of years ago while I was doing a Grand-Am race there, and he looked good.
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one big difference is Lackey didnt win his big championship til late in his career.. reed has been winning titles from day 1 in america..& Lackey spent most of his career chasing the world title instead of winning at home. But at that time the world title was the most prestigious. the only similarity i see is maybe a lack of motivation. I am a twotwo fan, but i dont think he cares like he used to. if it works out he'll go for it, if not, fuck it.
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Shenzi 10/8/2010 1:22pm
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ando wrote:
Based on the available evidence it's seeming more and more likely to me that Reed is going to be on the Australian owned JDR team. I...
Based on the available evidence it's seeming more and more likely to me that Reed is going to be on the Australian owned JDR team.

I get the feeling his Australian ties are a lot stronger than many people realise.
I would agree, signs are showing that direction Wink
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mxpitt23 wrote:
one big difference is Lackey didnt win his big championship til late in his career.. reed has been winning titles from day 1 in america..& Lackey...
one big difference is Lackey didnt win his big championship til late in his career.. reed has been winning titles from day 1 in america..& Lackey spent most of his career chasing the world title instead of winning at home. But at that time the world title was the most prestigious. the only similarity i see is maybe a lack of motivation. I am a twotwo fan, but i dont think he cares like he used to. if it works out he'll go for it, if not, fuck it.
Lackey was 500 National champ in '72 at the start of his career. To your point that one pales in .comparison to his World Title which he chased for over 10 years. He wanted to get paid and was shut out. Maybe the motivation was less, but he deserved a decent ride to defend his title. The stories about his relationship with Suzuki are infamous. Agree on your last point as well.
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500guy 10/8/2010 1:45pm
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Lackey spent his career doing what had never been done before.

I don't think this is a good comparison.
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500guy wrote:
Lackey spent his career doing what had never been done before.

I don't think this is a good comparison.
Agreed.
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ando wrote:
Based on the available evidence it's seeming more and more likely to me that Reed is going to be on the Australian owned JDR team. I...
Based on the available evidence it's seeming more and more likely to me that Reed is going to be on the Australian owned JDR team.

I get the feeling his Australian ties are a lot stronger than many people realise.
I disagree with the ties to aussie....Ive been staying for 2 weeks in round Kiurri Kurri where Chad is from...sounds like hes burned a few there to
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ando wrote:
Based on the available evidence it's seeming more and more likely to me that Reed is going to be on the Australian owned JDR team. I...
Based on the available evidence it's seeming more and more likely to me that Reed is going to be on the Australian owned JDR team.

I get the feeling his Australian ties are a lot stronger than many people realise.
I agree
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Tbill 10/8/2010 11:32pm
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500guy wrote:
Lackey spent his career doing what had never been done before.

I don't think this is a good comparison.
Exactly
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phlewy 10/9/2010 12:17am
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Reed and Lackey??? More like reed and randy moss. you figure it out.
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always loved bad brad but couldn't ride SX to save his life (saw him in OZ) still have my BLackey arai replica!

.......a true MXer and should of had 2 world titles but for dirty riding from malherbe.........reedy will get a competitive ride or none at all.........
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phlewy wrote:
Reed and Lackey??? More like reed and randy moss. you figure it out.
Nice!!! Great comparison!!!
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SCIENCE wrote:
Different careers yes, but both great champs. However, Lackey was left high and dry by the moto industry after his '82 world title (made a cameo...
Different careers yes, but both great champs. However, Lackey was left high and dry by the moto industry after his '82 world title (made a cameo on a private YZ490 in '83 at Carlsbad and was done). Is Reedy going to suffer a similar fate? Can't believe he could be done.
not quite ace
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bobby397 10/9/2010 4:54am
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RMZ819 wrote:
I think Reeds problem is the word team is spelled with all I 's. Reed is a all about me kinda of a guy and at...
I think Reeds problem is the word team is spelled with all I 's. Reed is a all about me kinda of a guy and at this point of his career he will never be the number 1 guy for any team.

Reed has no bargaining power anymore.
People say the same shit year after year and reed still continues to prove you wrong. Do you not remember the chad reed who helped regal on the podium adjust his goggles to give more of a view of regals sponsor? What about the reed who tried to get the promoters at the sx race to fix a jump before it killed someone. Sounds like a game player to me..... just wants the sport to grow just like the other great, mcgrath, carmicheal, decoster, shit even js7. Reed can win, one bad year of his career and you guys put a fork in him, guess you need to put one in millsaps, rv, js7,tedesco, grant, and anyone else like the guys I listed who seem to be out every other year for something ........
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jmar 10/9/2010 5:27am
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Reed has positioned him self to where he doesn't have to race for a paycheck. If he does race the supercross series this year (which I don't believe he will) it will be on his own terms. He has other interest and "his" life will go on, just as he planned.

He really is smarter than some of you may think.
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Different careers yes, but both great champs. However, Lackey was left high and dry by the moto industry after his '82 world title (made a cameo...
Different careers yes, but both great champs. However, Lackey was left high and dry by the moto industry after his '82 world title (made a cameo on a private YZ490 in '83 at Carlsbad and was done). Is Reedy going to suffer a similar fate? Can't believe he could be done.
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MX-Files 10/9/2010 9:29am
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Guys,

Not to blow our own horn on our "NEW Brad Lackey Motocrosss Files DVD Now Out at www.MotocrossFiles.com!!!!!" (Could'nt resist LOL!)

Anyway, in the deleted scenes section Brad goes into depth what happened at the end of his career and he wanted to get paid $1M to ride or not at all.

For $1M it was going to be worth "the risk" of riding again because after 10 years, he felt a looming injury was coming because he had had many near misses before with "stingers", etc. and just felt something was amiss. He even goes on to say that a bunch of the top guys in 1982-1983 ended up in wheel chairs or hurt bad where since Jim West no one had been seriously hurt at the top of the sport....Malherbe, Magoo, Bailey, Hansen, etc....

He was offered $750K to ride for Cagiva and develop new bike in 1983 and turned it down.

He now enjoys being able to function, everything works and gets to enjoy his championship, his family, etc.

Don't know if this matters on this thread but it was an opportunity to tell you guys an insider story.

Best,

Todd

P.S. New Carlsbad DVD is out too!

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ATKpilot99 10/9/2010 9:35am
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Wow interesting stuff . I never heard about that Cagiva offer. Gonna have to get that dvd.

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