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To begin, obviously I was making a little funny against Obama, a guy that was on one of my crews several years back used to say...

To begin, obviously I was making a little funny against Obama, a guy that was on one of my crews several years back used to say it …. He hated Obama .It  used to make me laugh, that and he was always bitching  about his East Indian mother inlaw whose name was WeeDad. So every now and then I’d ask him “how’s  WeeeeeeeeeeDad do’n?” And he’d go off for 15 minutes about her. 😂 Anyway here’s what I found to answer your question about “what contribution I think a president makes to get a man on the moon?” This is what I found…….IMG 6077 4.jpeg?VersionId=8sqDIJ3urSdhcDiVzQRX3u3gX3yItcKIMG 6078 5.jpeg?VersionId=7yW1Y0AZdpoE6TgY88p

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I hear ya, I use the phrase "Thanks Obama" a lot in my life haha.Good summary of Kennedy's push for getting a man on the moon...

I hear ya, I use the phrase "Thanks Obama" a lot in my life haha.

Good summary of Kennedy's push for getting a man on the moon. And an excellent representation of true leadership at the top step. Investing in meaningful programs, rallying and uniting both congress and the American people around a powerful initiative. A stark contrast to what we see today, I reckon.

Yes , I have to agree that there is a stark contrast from JFK’s time and now . Back then the media used to somewhat coddle/protect/...

Yes , I have to agree that there is a stark contrast from JFK’s time and now . Back then the media used to somewhat coddle/protect/ shield the president and both parties worked together much better than we see today…. There was a respect for the office itself that we just don’t see these days. I believe all of that went out the window for the most part after Regans second term or maybe  Herbert Walker Bush’s one term. Seems like every since then things have been really ugly and all that respect for the office itself has gone out the window. We are definitely living in critical times where the disrespect has spilled out into the streets and people are being beaten and killed over their political beliefs. It’s actually shocking what America has become in this regard.

The ‘change’ in attitude you’re referring to came about when Lush Windbag discovered that you could manipulate radio listeners pretty easily if you made them victims in their own minds and established your political rivals as their enemies/oppressors…….

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Yes , I have to agree that there is a stark contrast from JFK’s time and now . Back then the media used to somewhat coddle/protect/...

Yes , I have to agree that there is a stark contrast from JFK’s time and now . Back then the media used to somewhat coddle/protect/ shield the president and both parties worked together much better than we see today…. There was a respect for the office itself that we just don’t see these days. I believe all of that went out the window for the most part after Regans second term or maybe  Herbert Walker Bush’s one term. Seems like every since then things have been really ugly and all that respect for the office itself has gone out the window. We are definitely living in critical times where the disrespect has spilled out into the streets and people are being beaten and killed over their political beliefs. It’s actually shocking what America has become in this regard.

Very well said, and I agree with a lot of this. I think Reagan's second term was a major inflection point as well.

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8/4/2025 7:34am Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 8:13am
Who claimed 200 year old people were being paid?Payments were sent to 266 beneficiaries above the age of 112...https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/02/18/musk-150-year-old-social-security/that sounds like massive fraud, surely...

Who claimed 200 year old people were being paid?

Payments were sent to 266 beneficiaries above the age of 112...

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/02/18/musk-150-year-old-social-security/

that sounds like massive fraud, surely stopping those payments saved the promised $2 trillion dollars in government expenditure.

DOGE was ineffective, it didn't and couldn't address the government's expenditure issues, they need to be resolved by your elected officials, but both sides are too busy feathering their nests, self interest rules.

You’re wrong. Lemme pull up the freakin DOGE website for the illiterate. Have you even looked at that site? (The problem with you us you’re 100% focused on discrediting not only the US administration but the US in general. Plus, you never have any real suggestions, like “Our president did this in that situation” or “This is what your president should’ve done…” Also since you began your posting in Non-Moto re Trump’s ‘indictment’ in ‘22ish, it was only to poke fingers and piously ridicule, scoff, and mock the US. Actually you never spoke against any other president other than Trump. For such a proposed whiz and know-it-all, you completely one note.)

Where do I start? IMG 0303

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8/4/2025 7:56am Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 8:00am
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You’re wrong. Lemme pull up the freakin DOGE website for the illiterate. Have you even looked at that site? (The problem with you us you’re 100% focused...

You’re wrong. Lemme pull up the freakin DOGE website for the illiterate. Have you even looked at that site? (The problem with you us you’re 100% focused on discrediting not only the US administration but the US in general. Plus, you never have any real suggestions, like “Our president did this in that situation” or “This is what your president should’ve done…” Also since you began your posting in Non-Moto re Trump’s ‘indictment’ in ‘22ish, it was only to poke fingers and piously ridicule, scoff, and mock the US. Actually you never spoke against any other president other than Trump. For such a proposed whiz and know-it-all, you completely one note.)

Where do I start? IMG 0303

Transparency in how our government spends our money is good, and a positive change in my opinion. Trying to find fraud and wasteful spending is also good. You've shown the government hasn't stopped making payments altogether, which is also good. A lot more bang for your buck if they poked around higher up the food chain - IE in the swamp waters, which they haven't touched (shocker). What are you trying to prove with this screen cap? 

With all these savings, federal spending has continued to grow this year.

I have looked at their site before.

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8/4/2025 8:06am Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 9:44am
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The LA Protestor clip you posted is from Denver, Colorado.You can post whatever you want. Unless it's philosophical religious shit, that seems to get purged here...

The LA Protestor clip you posted is from Denver, Colorado.

You can post whatever you want. Unless it's philosophical religious shit, that seems to get purged here for some reason. I found the back and forth quite interesting on that.

 

Yea I’m still disappointed that happened. Maybe it was Coolhandluke since he is the resident tattletale? Even if it was I’m surprised a moderator considered the...

Yea I’m still disappointed that happened. Maybe it was Coolhandluke since he is the resident tattletale? Even if it was I’m surprised a moderator considered the complaint legitimate as we were mostly talking about religion in a historical context. 

Either way it sucks, because after 60 pages of back and forth bullshit, name calling and finger pointing, we were having a thoughtful and productive discussion that was approaching the root causes of these issues we all complain about. 
If we can’t have a civilized conversation about morals and values in regards to our society, then we have no hope whatsoever. Whoever deleted those posts or complained about them is a fucking loser and I hope you’re reading this. 

If it was someone complaining to a moderator then you are a massive pussy and probably mentally deficient. If a moderator actually did go through those posts and deleted them, I think at the very least we should have been given an explanation and an opportunity to defend because they clearly misunderstood the context. 

Shameful behavior and exactly the type that has western civilization in the disgraceful position it is in now. 

It was probably viewed as bible thumping. I thought we were having a pleasant back and forth. 

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8/4/2025 8:19am Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 8:29am
T-MAC wrote:
Transparency in how our government spends our money is good, and a positive change in my opinion. Trying to find fraud and wasteful spending is also...

Transparency in how our government spends our money is good, and a positive change in my opinion. Trying to find fraud and wasteful spending is also good. You've shown the government hasn't stopped making payments altogether, which is also good. A lot more bang for your buck if they poked around higher up the food chain - IE in the swamp waters, which they haven't touched (shocker). What are you trying to prove with this screen cap? 

With all these savings, federal spending has continued to grow this year.

I have looked at their site before.

Oops wrong one. Updated. There’s so much “axed waste” on DOGE, it’s a matter of getting the right one. DOGE s also a machine with monitoring mechanisms and updates.

The only reason the T-haters, like L2S, hate it is because the “swamp” used all those accounts for their own personal expenditures. So they got the lib media to push a “hate Elon” thing to try and stop it. 

I think that’s so funny y’all are pushing the “swamp” thing now. Pretty sure that’s being pushed in lib media since you can’t do as anything else on Trump.

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Oops wrong one. Updated. There’s so much “axed waste” on DOGE, it’s a matter of getting the right one. DOGE s also a machine with monitoring...

Oops wrong one. Updated. There’s so much “axed waste” on DOGE, it’s a matter of getting the right one. DOGE s also a machine with monitoring mechanisms and updates.

The only reason the T-haters, like L2S, hate it is because the “swamp” used all those accounts for their own personal expenditures. So they got the lib media to push a “hate Elon” thing to try and stop it. 

I think that’s so funny y’all are pushing the “swamp” thing now. Pretty sure that’s being pushed in lib media since you can’t do as anything else on Trump.

So are you only against people pushing things that are in the liberal media or do you also look down on people who are pushing things that are in the conservative media?

Just because you worship Trump and are willing to fight to the death defending every word that comes out of his mouth doesn't make you right.

The fucking holier than thou on here is wild.
 

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I sure miss my Chinese food.

Some day I will need to buy new chopsticks....

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I sure miss my Chinese food.

Some day I will need to buy new chopsticks....

Are some general tsar’s yesterday. It was damn good. Good luck on you’re crusade…

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8/4/2025 11:34am Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 11:39am
LungButter wrote:
So are you only against people pushing things that are in the liberal media or do you also look down on people who are pushing things...

So are you only against people pushing things that are in the liberal media or do you also look down on people who are pushing things that are in the conservative media?

Just because you worship Trump and are willing to fight to the death defending every word that comes out of his mouth doesn't make you right.

The fucking holier than thou on here is wild.
 

Look your the same. Only in reverse - you hate Trump (you don’t know why, and you don’t have any alternatives to what he’s done, so in effect you worship the other side - lgbdq and gay sex books for elementary kids, amnesty for all illegal aliens while depriving USCs, pro-Hamas and pro “slaying infidels”, pro Obama/Schiff takedown of Trump to the point of manufacturing intel, pro-boys in women’s sports and locker rooms, anti-ICE, pro Newsom/ Bass, pro censorship and persecution of all Christians, pro Covid compliance to the point of prison and detainment, endless wars, in favor of sending young military men to die in the Russia Ukraine war. You scroll all sources of social media, not for objective current events, but with a “hate Trump” filter). What part am I missing? Is it true? Who is more blind? Or are we both the same?

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LungButter wrote:
So are you only against people pushing things that are in the liberal media or do you also look down on people who are pushing things...

So are you only against people pushing things that are in the liberal media or do you also look down on people who are pushing things that are in the conservative media?

Just because you worship Trump and are willing to fight to the death defending every word that comes out of his mouth doesn't make you right.

The fucking holier than thou on here is wild.
 

burn1986 wrote:
Look your the same. Only in reverse - you hate Trump (you don’t know why, and you don’t have any alternatives to what he’s done, so...

Look your the same. Only in reverse - you hate Trump (you don’t know why, and you don’t have any alternatives to what he’s done, so in effect you worship the other side - lgbdq and gay sex books for elementary kids, amnesty for all illegal aliens while depriving USCs, pro-Hamas and pro “slaying infidels”, pro Obama/Schiff takedown of Trump to the point of manufacturing intel, pro-boys in women’s sports and locker rooms, anti-ICE, pro Newsom/ Bass, pro censorship and persecution of all Christians, pro Covid compliance to the point of prison and detainment, endless wars, in favor of sending young military men to die in the Russia Ukraine war. You scroll all sources of social media, not for objective current events, but with a “hate Trump” filter). What part am I missing? Is it true? Who is more blind? Or are we both the same?

You have issues dawg and honestly what you said makes you sound like a complete dumb fuck.

I shit on idiot Liberals just as much as a shit on Trump.  I also supported Trump over Kumwallow in the election.

You and some others need to grow the fuck up and realize that just because someone doesn't worship Trump like you doesn't mean they are on the complete other side of the spectrum.  

We are not the same, you're a sheep and I make decisions for myself.

 

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8/4/2025 12:37pm Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 12:41pm
LungButter wrote:
You have issues dawg and honestly what you said makes you sound like a complete dumb fuck.I shit on idiot Liberals just as much as a...

You have issues dawg and honestly what you said makes you sound like a complete dumb fuck.

I shit on idiot Liberals just as much as a shit on Trump.  I also supported Trump over Kumwallow in the election.

You and some others need to grow the fuck up and realize that just because someone doesn't worship Trump like you doesn't mean they are on the complete other side of the spectrum.  

We are not the same, you're a sheep and I make decisions for myself.

 

Which one of the policies an i wrong on? Everyone against Trump, or all the other candidates are for:

-Defund police

-Anti ICE, no notification

-Gay sex books for elementary school kids

-Federal funding for transitioning elementary kids without parent notification/ permission

-Anti Israel

-Pro Hamas and fund pro Hamas at all universities

-prosecutions for misgendering and jail for speech against lgbtq

-release all illegal aliens

-no ID to vote

-open borders

-increase federal funding for illegal aliens

-military and govt housing assistance for illegal aliens and refugees from Muslim countries

-support sending troops to Ukraine

This is only a few. Do you guys just choose to be blind? It’s like talking to a wall. Who’s gonna fight against this stuff? Newsom? Schiff? Crockett? Wake up dude.

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LungButter wrote:
You have issues dawg and honestly what you said makes you sound like a complete dumb fuck.I shit on idiot Liberals just as much as a...

You have issues dawg and honestly what you said makes you sound like a complete dumb fuck.

I shit on idiot Liberals just as much as a shit on Trump.  I also supported Trump over Kumwallow in the election.

You and some others need to grow the fuck up and realize that just because someone doesn't worship Trump like you doesn't mean they are on the complete other side of the spectrum.  

We are not the same, you're a sheep and I make decisions for myself.

 

burn1986 wrote:
Which one of the policies an i wrong on? Everyone against Trump, or all the other candidates are for:-Defund police-Anti ICE, no notification-Gay sex books for...

Which one of the policies an i wrong on? Everyone against Trump, or all the other candidates are for:

-Defund police

-Anti ICE, no notification

-Gay sex books for elementary school kids

-Federal funding for transitioning elementary kids without parent notification/ permission

-Anti Israel

-Pro Hamas and fund pro Hamas at all universities

-prosecutions for misgendering and jail for speech against lgbtq

-release all illegal aliens

-no ID to vote

-open borders

-increase federal funding for illegal aliens

-military and govt housing assistance for illegal aliens and refugees from Muslim countries

-support sending troops to Ukraine

This is only a few. Do you guys just choose to be blind? It’s like talking to a wall. Who’s gonna fight against this stuff? Newsom? Schiff? Crockett? Wake up dude.

I feel sorry for you and how fucking pathetic & miserable your existence must be.

If you are stupid enough to think just because I don't agree with your Savior Trump 100% that I am in favor of that other stuff you are too fucking stupid to be helped.  Period.  

I bet if you were man enough to be honest with yourself, your unhealthy obsession with Trump is probably fucking up lots of areas of your life.

I feel sorry for you, I hope someday you can man up and realize how bad of a spot you are in.  Hopefully you havent' completely flushed your life down the toilet by then.

 

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8/4/2025 1:09pm Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 1:09pm
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I feel sorry for you and how fucking pathetic & miserable your existence must be.If you are stupid enough to think just because I don't agree...

I feel sorry for you and how fucking pathetic & miserable your existence must be.

If you are stupid enough to think just because I don't agree with your Savior Trump 100% that I am in favor of that other stuff you are too fucking stupid to be helped.  Period.  

I bet if you were man enough to be honest with yourself, your unhealthy obsession with Trump is probably fucking up lots of areas of your life.

I feel sorry for you, I hope someday you can man up and realize how bad of a spot you are in.  Hopefully you havent' completely flushed your life down the toilet by then.

 

Then what are you “in favor” of? That’s all you got, is a Trump jab? Take Trump out of your vocabulary. Silence.

This stuff is happening. You know it. I know it. Tell me its not happening. “I’m gonna close my eyes and ignore it and it’ll go away.” Is that your solution?

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8/4/2025 1:10pm Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 1:36pm

I sure miss my Chinese food.

Some day I will need to buy new chopsticks....

Now we have some inconsistencies in your messaging brother. If you're boycotting Chinese food there is no need to wear out your chopsticks.

Besides - in America, the fork is the official utensil of food consumption.

By burn1986's deductive reasoning you must eat cats and dogs, too.

 

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LungButter wrote:
I feel sorry for you and how fucking pathetic & miserable your existence must be.If you are stupid enough to think just because I don't agree...

I feel sorry for you and how fucking pathetic & miserable your existence must be.

If you are stupid enough to think just because I don't agree with your Savior Trump 100% that I am in favor of that other stuff you are too fucking stupid to be helped.  Period.  

I bet if you were man enough to be honest with yourself, your unhealthy obsession with Trump is probably fucking up lots of areas of your life.

I feel sorry for you, I hope someday you can man up and realize how bad of a spot you are in.  Hopefully you havent' completely flushed your life down the toilet by then.

 

burn1986 wrote:
Then what are you “in favor” of? That’s all you got, is a Trump jab? Take Trump out of your vocabulary. Silence.This stuff is happening. You...

Then what are you “in favor” of? That’s all you got, is a Trump jab? Take Trump out of your vocabulary. Silence.

This stuff is happening. You know it. I know it. Tell me its not happening. “I’m gonna close my eyes and ignore it and it’ll go away.” Is that your solution?

Someone as extreme as you can't be helped or reasoned with.  If you could you wouldn't have made such a dumb fuck post to begin with.

Extremists like you on both sides of the aisle are ruining America.  Let that sink in little boy, you are fucking ruining America with your inability to man the fuck up and think for yourself.

You don't have a motherfucking clue if that stuff is happening, you're just enraged by it cause you've been told to be by the media that has brainswashed you.

No need to waste your time with a response, I don't care what you have to say, you've already proven you are too far fucking gone to be a part of society.

 

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8/4/2025 1:23pm Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 1:24pm
LungButter wrote:
Someone as extreme as you can't be helped or reasoned with.  If you could you wouldn't have made such a dumb fuck post to begin with.Extremists...

Someone as extreme as you can't be helped or reasoned with.  If you could you wouldn't have made such a dumb fuck post to begin with.

Extremists like you on both sides of the aisle are ruining America.  Let that sink in little boy, you are fucking ruining America with your inability to man the fuck up and think for yourself.

You don't have a motherfucking clue if that stuff is happening, you're just enraged by it cause you've been told to be by the media that has brainswashed you.

No need to waste your time with a response, I don't care what you have to say, you've already proven you are too far fucking gone to be a part of society.

 

Oh cmon. You do it too. Anyone says anything different is an extremist? lol You get your feelings hurt too easy. 

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Oh cmon. You do it too. Anyone says anything different is an extremist? lol You get your feelings hurt too easy. 

No, I don't do that.  Don't try to shit on me just to make your crazy rant seem ok.

You are a fucking extremist, you just proved it with the dumb fuck rants above and at Soggy in another thread.

There is no need for us to go back and forth, someone with such little brainpower to think that someone who disagrees with Trump on stuff is also into all that other stuff is clearly not smart enough to engage with.  

 

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8/4/2025 3:10pm

I sure miss my Chinese food.

Some day I will need to buy new chopsticks....

soggy wrote:

Are some general tsar’s yesterday. It was damn good. Good luck on you’re crusade…

Progress is slow.......but I'm in it for the long haul. :o)

8/4/2025 3:13pm
LungButter wrote:
So are you only against people pushing things that are in the liberal media or do you also look down on people who are pushing things...

So are you only against people pushing things that are in the liberal media or do you also look down on people who are pushing things that are in the conservative media?

Just because you worship Trump and are willing to fight to the death defending every word that comes out of his mouth doesn't make you right.

The fucking holier than thou on here is wild.
 

burn1986 wrote:
Look your the same. Only in reverse - you hate Trump (you don’t know why, and you don’t have any alternatives to what he’s done, so...

Look your the same. Only in reverse - you hate Trump (you don’t know why, and you don’t have any alternatives to what he’s done, so in effect you worship the other side - lgbdq and gay sex books for elementary kids, amnesty for all illegal aliens while depriving USCs, pro-Hamas and pro “slaying infidels”, pro Obama/Schiff takedown of Trump to the point of manufacturing intel, pro-boys in women’s sports and locker rooms, anti-ICE, pro Newsom/ Bass, pro censorship and persecution of all Christians, pro Covid compliance to the point of prison and detainment, endless wars, in favor of sending young military men to die in the Russia Ukraine war. You scroll all sources of social media, not for objective current events, but with a “hate Trump” filter). What part am I missing? Is it true? Who is more blind? Or are we both the same?

LungButter wrote:
You have issues dawg and honestly what you said makes you sound like a complete dumb fuck.I shit on idiot Liberals just as much as a...

You have issues dawg and honestly what you said makes you sound like a complete dumb fuck.

I shit on idiot Liberals just as much as a shit on Trump.  I also supported Trump over Kumwallow in the election.

You and some others need to grow the fuck up and realize that just because someone doesn't worship Trump like you doesn't mean they are on the complete other side of the spectrum.  

We are not the same, you're a sheep and I make decisions for myself.

 

LB - I think we can all agree you are on the planet Pluto..You need to get down off your "high horse."

Thank you

Luke

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8/4/2025 5:08pm
Who claimed 200 year old people were being paid?Payments were sent to 266 beneficiaries above the age of 112...https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/02/18/musk-150-year-old-social-security/that sounds like massive fraud, surely...

Who claimed 200 year old people were being paid?

Payments were sent to 266 beneficiaries above the age of 112...

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/02/18/musk-150-year-old-social-security/

that sounds like massive fraud, surely stopping those payments saved the promised $2 trillion dollars in government expenditure.

DOGE was ineffective, it didn't and couldn't address the government's expenditure issues, they need to be resolved by your elected officials, but both sides are too busy feathering their nests, self interest rules.

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You’re wrong. Lemme pull up the freakin DOGE website for the illiterate. Have you even looked at that site? (The problem with you us you’re 100% focused...

You’re wrong. Lemme pull up the freakin DOGE website for the illiterate. Have you even looked at that site? (The problem with you us you’re 100% focused on discrediting not only the US administration but the US in general. Plus, you never have any real suggestions, like “Our president did this in that situation” or “This is what your president should’ve done…” Also since you began your posting in Non-Moto re Trump’s ‘indictment’ in ‘22ish, it was only to poke fingers and piously ridicule, scoff, and mock the US. Actually you never spoke against any other president other than Trump. For such a proposed whiz and know-it-all, you completely one note.)

Where do I start? IMG 0303

Please explain how does $199B equal $2T?

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8/4/2025 5:12pm Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 5:25pm

Please explain how does $199B equal $2T?

Youve obviously looked at the DOGE site, what did you find out? https://doge.gov There’s so much waste and fraud there it’s hard to list it all.

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Please explain how does $199B equal $2T?

burn1986 wrote:

Youve obviously looked at the DOGE site, what did you find out? https://doge.gov There’s so much waste and fraud there it’s hard to list it all.

The claimed $199B in savings, which have been disputed by some, does not even cover annual interest on the US Government's debt

Interest Payments in the Federal Budget-Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:00 ...

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Well more taxes liberate your money from you,BUT in the process your money makes other crooks richer!! So your money is never liberated it just leaves one wallet for another. 🤔👍

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I got a nice $1500 bill from FedEx for something I bought in the Netherlands. Thanks donny

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