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aFACEdismembered 9/29/2010 6:36am
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
Townley/Short MXdN 2010 from Stephen Bruner on Vimeo. Find a way to to say Ben did this deliberately. Ben had his feet up not even...

Townley/Short MXdN 2010 from Stephen Bruner on Vimeo.





Find a way to to say Ben did this deliberately. Ben had his feet up not even charging in to the corner. Short was just taking terrible fucking lines and getting eaten alive momentarily.
DanDunes818 wrote:
Great find on the video. Looks to me like a good pass and unintentional contact. It's for sure just one of those "Shit happens" incidents.
Great find on the video. Looks to me like a good pass and unintentional contact. It's for sure just one of those "Shit happens" incidents.
It was my video. I have most of the good stuff from the front runners. Plan on putting it all together in to a 5-10 minute video as soon as I find some free time with school.
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kongols 9/29/2010 6:43am
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Why did you hide it for nine pages?
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kongols wrote:
Why did you hide it for nine pages?
I would think if he wanted to 'hide' it, he would have 'hidden' it for a lot longer than two days.

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I SAY THIS THREAD NEEDS MORE BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ns503 9/29/2010 6:54am
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Anybody else voting for EPIC FAIL?

Can we get a motion?
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kongols 9/29/2010 7:26am
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Fail
aFACEdismembered 9/29/2010 8:06am
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kongols wrote:
Why did you hide it for nine pages?
Because I drove 14 hours back to Texas after the race and went to class at 1030 in the morning then went to work til 7 PM and straight home to pass out. Put it on Vimeo at 2AM but it was going to take 2 hours to wait in line to compress. Hence Tuesday morning when I woke up. It's called a life.
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yamazuki 9/29/2010 8:15am
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eddie wrote:
[i][b]"Even Roczen, did he beat Andrew in the second moto, no and if Andrew would not have crashed, Andrew would have beat him for the overall."[/b][/i]...
"Even Roczen, did he beat Andrew in the second moto, no and if Andrew would not have crashed, Andrew would have beat him for the overall."


LMAO !

you cant get anymore clueless than this .
If Andrew would have not crashed, he would have got a 3rd or 4th at worst 5th and add that to his 2.

Roczen got a 2 an 6th, what is so clueless about that? Andrew would have beat him. Just making a point. Laugh all you want the important thing is the Americans won, that may be a hard pill to swallow but it is now time to take the medicine. For clarity, I am not saying that they raced the same motos, just saying Andrews score would have been better had he not been taken out by BT.
http://www.redbullmxon.com/results.html

Also, I am not a fool, in the moto that Roczen passed Andrew, it is very unlikely Andrew would have been able to pass him back even if he did not crash. I have seen Andrew many times, he would not take the risks. Roczen was on fire that moto, he got a holeshot a blazed a very fast pace. Hats off to him, he was riding very fast.
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peelout719 9/29/2010 8:23am
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short was going slow, took a shitty approach into a hooking rut. meanwhile, townley was pushing hard and took a sweeping approach to the inside. short never should have taken the line he did from where he was approaching it and he never should have given up the inside line like he did. who the fuck wouldn't get to the inside of a slower rider?

case closed.
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yamazuki 9/29/2010 8:42am
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short was going slow, took a shitty approach into a hooking rut. meanwhile, townley was pushing hard and took a sweeping approach to the inside. short...
short was going slow, took a shitty approach into a hooking rut. meanwhile, townley was pushing hard and took a sweeping approach to the inside. short never should have taken the line he did from where he was approaching it and he never should have given up the inside line like he did. who the fuck wouldn't get to the inside of a slower rider?

case closed.
Your opinion. I was there and the vid does not show what really went down. But I do agree, Andrew should have not gave him the inside, but not sure he could have done that. BT had all sorts of momentum from both jumps.

Who wouldn't get to the inside of a slower rider, no one but how many people would take them out. Not everyone, but rubbin is racing and take out moves are part of racing. Still was a take out move from my perspective which was behind them when it happened.
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ns503 9/29/2010 8:46am
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kongols wrote:
Why did you hide it for nine pages?
aFACEdismembered wrote:
Because I drove 14 hours back to Texas after the race and went to class at 1030 in the morning then went to work til 7...
Because I drove 14 hours back to Texas after the race and went to class at 1030 in the morning then went to work til 7 PM and straight home to pass out. Put it on Vimeo at 2AM but it was going to take 2 hours to wait in line to compress. Hence Tuesday morning when I woke up. It's called a life.
Not sure anybody else said it, and if they did I'll say it again anyway, but great vid and thanks for posting it. Two thumbs up!
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short was going slow, took a shitty approach into a hooking rut. meanwhile, townley was pushing hard and took a sweeping approach to the inside. short...
short was going slow, took a shitty approach into a hooking rut. meanwhile, townley was pushing hard and took a sweeping approach to the inside. short never should have taken the line he did from where he was approaching it and he never should have given up the inside line like he did. who the fuck wouldn't get to the inside of a slower rider?

case closed.
Didn't mean to quote you. Does anyone know whether Trey's pass on Ken during the qualifier was clean or did Trey give him a lil bump? I had a blinded view because of the 4 trees out there being in the wrong spot. I heard they touched.
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kongols 9/29/2010 8:58am
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peelout719 wrote:
short was going slow, took a shitty approach into a hooking rut. meanwhile, townley was pushing hard and took a sweeping approach to the inside. short...
short was going slow, took a shitty approach into a hooking rut. meanwhile, townley was pushing hard and took a sweeping approach to the inside. short never should have taken the line he did from where he was approaching it and he never should have given up the inside line like he did. who the fuck wouldn't get to the inside of a slower rider?

case closed.
aFACEdismembered wrote:
Didn't mean to quote you. Does anyone know whether Trey's pass on Ken during the qualifier was clean or did Trey give him a lil bump...
Didn't mean to quote you. Does anyone know whether Trey's pass on Ken during the qualifier was clean or did Trey give him a lil bump? I had a blinded view because of the 4 trees out there being in the wrong spot. I heard they touched.
Ken was all by himself.
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Zildjian 9/29/2010 9:21am
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Yes he did, but BT caught up to short And also passed roczen later on in the moto. I'm not sure what point you Are trying...
Yes he did, but BT caught up to short And also passed roczen later on in the moto. I'm not sure what point you Are trying to make here by conparing the short/ BT deal in the 2nd moto. What hasmoto 3 to got to do with it? Im beginning to Think you havent watched the event
Since you are slow, I'll spell it out for you.

You claimed Short was way off the pace because he just gotten passed by a 250F, therefore proving he was way off the pace.

Yet BT had also just gotten passed by the same 250F.

Don't use stupid examples to point out how 'way off the pace' Short was when the other person in question failed on the same point.
TripleFive 9/29/2010 9:32am
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I don't hold any hard feelings for BT regarding the incident. He's always been a clean rider and from the video it appears the takeout was unintentional.

BT's a good guy and I bet he apologized to Andrew afterwards.
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Sunhouse 9/29/2010 11:29am
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Yes he did, but BT caught up to short And also passed roczen later on in the moto. I'm not sure what point you Are trying...
Yes he did, but BT caught up to short And also passed roczen later on in the moto. I'm not sure what point you Are trying to make here by conparing the short/ BT deal in the 2nd moto. What hasmoto 3 to got to do with it? Im beginning to Think you havent watched the event
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Since you are slow, I'll spell it out for you. You claimed Short was way off the pace because he just gotten passed by a 250F...
Since you are slow, I'll spell it out for you.

You claimed Short was way off the pace because he just gotten passed by a 250F, therefore proving he was way off the pace.

Yet BT had also just gotten passed by the same 250F.

Don't use stupid examples to point out how 'way off the pace' Short was when the other person in question failed on the same point.
For those of us who saw the race, BT caught up to Short quickly And was already following that 250f's pace before shortly thereafter passing it for the win. Thus BT wasnt off the 250s pace as i'm sure you understand....?
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Zildjian 9/29/2010 11:33am
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For those of us who saw the race, BT caught up to Short quickly And was already following that 250f's pace before shortly thereafter passing it...
For those of us who saw the race, BT caught up to Short quickly And was already following that 250f's pace before shortly thereafter passing it for the win. Thus BT wasnt off the 250s pace as i'm sure you understand....?
So were you in the bathroom when Ken blew by BT like he was going backwards?

Give it a rest, your example of Short being passed by a 250F as proof that Short was 'way off the pace' is pretty stupid when the guy you are defending was passed by the SAME 250F.
aFACEdismembered 9/29/2010 12:21pm
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You do understand that by taking different lines, more importantly the lines of that 250f that just passed them, they too can improve their lap times right? That's what Ben did once he was by Shorty then he out jumped him on all of the stupidly designed 450 only jumps.

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Sunhouse 9/29/2010 12:37pm
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Ok, i don't understand how can not understand:
Who won the moto? There is no point in arguing about the fact that both roczen AND townley passed short who was going alot slower. Roczen passed townley early but he nost certainly didnt win the moto! Who did? BT did. How? He passed both short And roczen (repassed) to take the moto win. Do you still disagree?
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
Townley/Short MXdN 2010 from Stephen Bruner on Vimeo. Find a way to to say Ben did this deliberately. Ben had his feet up not even...

Townley/Short MXdN 2010 from Stephen Bruner on Vimeo.





Find a way to to say Ben did this deliberately. Ben had his feet up not even charging in to the corner. Short was just taking terrible fucking lines and getting eaten alive momentarily.
that was a normal pass.I dont think that was dirty.
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BKoonts 9/30/2010 7:42am
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Thanks for posting the video. Townley seemed to be moving quite a bit faster than Short leading up to the point where they came together. Townley hucked the uphill triple before the right hander and make a ton of time of Short. In the next turn Short took the outside line and appeared to have bounced back inside off of the rut and that is where they came together. If he hadn't hit the rut, Townley would have had him clean on the inside. I know that the original post was made during the race and emotions were running high. At this point however we can all see now that it was just an unavoidable collision and our guy went down. Nothing more... If it was anyone's fault I'd have to say that it was Short's for leaving his line. Besides, it motocross. If we don't want to see any aggressive action out there we should watch golf :-)
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G-man 9/30/2010 1:37pm
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I'm not gonna wade thru all this BS but the blurry video posted IS NOT THE INCIDENT!

REPEAT NOT THE INCIDENT!

Anywhere in that video did you see Short go down and barely get up? It happened in the corner leading into the mechanics straight. Not in those corners shown in the video.


And yes it was a TAKEOUT as we could see it all the way from the top of the hill! This wasn't the first nor last time this happens at the MotoD, a lot is at stake and riders pull out the stops.

He was slow getting up and for a minute or so I thought he was hurt and that would be it. As it turned out he was battered and bruised and had a broken clutch lever, but knew he had to get back up for the team.

What a ride!

Shorty talks about getting both wheels knocked out from underneath him.

http://www.andrewshort.com/...otocross-des-nations
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kongols 9/30/2010 1:41pm
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FlaNard wrote:
Cheap shot that early in the race. Fuck you Ben.
FU Townley for apparently taking out Short twiceWhistling
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peelout719 9/30/2010 1:44pm
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Cheap shot that early in the race. Fuck you Ben.
the hell are you on about?

that is the incident AND the corner, just after the finish and just before the mechanics area.

i want what you're smokin
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G-man 9/30/2010 1:46pm
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kongols wrote:
FU Townley for apparently taking out Short twiceWhistling
That BLURRY video shows about as much evidence as the Zapruder film....Laughing
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Damn you guys are a bunch of pussies, if townley was on a FACTORY bike he would not been behind shorty anyway. RUBBING is RACING.
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G-man 9/30/2010 1:50pm
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FlaNard wrote:
Cheap shot that early in the race. Fuck you Ben.
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the hell are you on about? that is the incident AND the corner, just after the finish and just before the mechanics area. i want what...
the hell are you on about?

that is the incident AND the corner, just after the finish and just before the mechanics area.

i want what you're smokin
I stand corrected--it barely shows Ben Going into Short and ENDS!

DOES NOT SHOW SHORT GETTING CLEANED OUT!

It's a poor angle

Were you there, or are you just going off that crappy video?

If so then you are drunk? lol
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kongols 9/30/2010 1:55pm
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G-man wrote:
I stand corrected--it barely shows Ben Going into Short and ENDS! DOES NOT SHOW SHORT GETTING CLEANED OUT! It's a poor angle Were you there, or...
I stand corrected--it barely shows Ben Going into Short and ENDS!

DOES NOT SHOW SHORT GETTING CLEANED OUT!

It's a poor angle

Were you there, or are you just going off that crappy video?

If so then you are drunk? lol
If this video would`ve shown Short getting cleaned out would it then be good videoBlush
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peelout719 9/30/2010 1:59pm
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G-man wrote:
I stand corrected--it barely shows Ben Going into Short and ENDS! DOES NOT SHOW SHORT GETTING CLEANED OUT! It's a poor angle Were you there, or...
I stand corrected--it barely shows Ben Going into Short and ENDS!

DOES NOT SHOW SHORT GETTING CLEANED OUT!

It's a poor angle

Were you there, or are you just going off that crappy video?

If so then you are drunk? lol
i fuckin wish i was drunk

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