Time to turn Loretta Lynn’s track backwards …

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There are a lot of changes that could be made to make LL better, but nothing will change.Tim Cotter is 150 years old and obsessed with...

There are a lot of changes that could be made to make LL better, but nothing will change.

Tim Cotter is 150 years old and obsessed with keeping everything the same as it was in 1987 when "the world was a better place" and men were men. Amateur motocross is absolutely plagued by this mentality, especially all the mx sports events. 

Tell me why you are required to sign up online prior to these events but still spend 3 hours standing in line with 200 other people to "confirm" your sign up at the tracks. You could go on the list is long. The powers that be are old and rigid, they are deffinitely not going to change a track thats been largely the same for the last 40 years. 

 

Yea why would you save time signing up online and then verify you’re the guy who signed up in person. So stupid. 

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MotoDad32 wrote:
It could/should be LOTS faster.  No reason to stand in line and sign in again, it should be done once - online.  Let me state my...

It could/should be LOTS faster.  No reason to stand in line and sign in again, it should be done once - online.  Let me state my name, they check a list, scratch my name off the list, give me a bag of goodies, and I'm on my way.  Should be a 30s process per person, not a 10 minute process.

Yes it should.

7/16/2025 2:17pm

I thought the whole point of LL's track was there was no advantage for anyone as it's never ridden. Now with GPS operated machinery and surveying off maps the advantage is back to the facilities.

Change the track and be true to their word about its a track that no one has an advantage on.

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There are a lot of changes that could be made to make LL better, but nothing will change.Tim Cotter is 150 years old and obsessed with...

There are a lot of changes that could be made to make LL better, but nothing will change.

Tim Cotter is 150 years old and obsessed with keeping everything the same as it was in 1987 when "the world was a better place" and men were men. Amateur motocross is absolutely plagued by this mentality, especially all the mx sports events. 

Tell me why you are required to sign up online prior to these events but still spend 3 hours standing in line with 200 other people to "confirm" your sign up at the tracks. You could go on the list is long. The powers that be are old and rigid, they are deffinitely not going to change a track thats been largely the same for the last 40 years. 

 

SlowOldGuy wrote:
The days of 3 hour lines to sign up are long gone.  They now do multiple sessions depending on class, online waivers and pre reg makes...

The days of 3 hour lines to sign up are long gone.  They now do multiple sessions depending on class, online waivers and pre reg makes sure your AMA membership is current.  It moves pretty quickly.  You are there to get practice stickers, mechanics pass which has to be signed for, make sure frame #s haven't changed, confirm transponder number and get your bag of goodie and bib.  I was in that 3 hour line for 10+ years.  It is much better now.

MXsports needs to do something about the first moto chip draw for gate position. The biggest race of the year and your first moto is determined by a random chip draw thats so ridiculous. Theres no reason why they cant do 10-15 minute times practice for every class. Freestone and Oak hill both do that but the biggest race of the year is random. 

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There are a lot of changes that could be made to make LL better, but nothing will change.Tim Cotter is 150 years old and obsessed with...

There are a lot of changes that could be made to make LL better, but nothing will change.

Tim Cotter is 150 years old and obsessed with keeping everything the same as it was in 1987 when "the world was a better place" and men were men. Amateur motocross is absolutely plagued by this mentality, especially all the mx sports events. 

Tell me why you are required to sign up online prior to these events but still spend 3 hours standing in line with 200 other people to "confirm" your sign up at the tracks. You could go on the list is long. The powers that be are old and rigid, they are deffinitely not going to change a track thats been largely the same for the last 40 years. 

 

SlowOldGuy wrote:
The days of 3 hour lines to sign up are long gone.  They now do multiple sessions depending on class, online waivers and pre reg makes...

The days of 3 hour lines to sign up are long gone.  They now do multiple sessions depending on class, online waivers and pre reg makes sure your AMA membership is current.  It moves pretty quickly.  You are there to get practice stickers, mechanics pass which has to be signed for, make sure frame #s haven't changed, confirm transponder number and get your bag of goodie and bib.  I was in that 3 hour line for 10+ years.  It is much better now.

Money wrote:
MXsports needs to do something about the first moto chip draw for gate position. The biggest race of the year and your first moto is determined...

MXsports needs to do something about the first moto chip draw for gate position. The biggest race of the year and your first moto is determined by a random chip draw thats so ridiculous. Theres no reason why they cant do 10-15 minute times practice for every class. Freestone and Oak hill both do that but the biggest race of the year is random. 

This is the best part of LL, at least it’s more fair then the “lottery” for electric, you know the one that  Ferry, Reed, Short and Weimer all “won”

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Money wrote:
MXsports needs to do something about the first moto chip draw for gate position. The biggest race of the year and your first moto is determined...

MXsports needs to do something about the first moto chip draw for gate position. The biggest race of the year and your first moto is determined by a random chip draw thats so ridiculous. Theres no reason why they cant do 10-15 minute times practice for every class. Freestone and Oak hill both do that but the biggest race of the year is random. 

Nope. Leave that part alone. 

That being said, with the amount of money that they sucker people out of, it should be a fresh and new layout each and every year. 

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7/16/2025 5:46pm

Does that make it ridiculous that Star Yamaha builds a replica SX track every week for the round they are racing?

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Motocross is outdoors and natural terrain. It needs to be raced on a track that has elevation, something that cant be replicated.  A flat track in...

Motocross is outdoors and natural terrain. It needs to be raced on a track that has elevation, something that cant be replicated.  A flat track in a field is not a national motocross track. 

You mean like Kenworthy’s?

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7/16/2025 6:46pm

That would be sick . Southwick and budds creek should follow suit😎

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7/16/2025 9:52pm

Are they still drawing the original wooden spoons for gate draw?

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7/17/2025 4:00am

Hopefully since Loretta has passed, the heirs do not renew the contract with Mxsports forcing a move to a real MX track.


 

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