Vialle returning to Europe with HRC?

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7/1/2025 2:12pm

Would not blame him if he did. 

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7/1/2025 2:12pm

Guess that pretty much tells us TG243 won't be on Honda for 26

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7/1/2025 2:17pm

what the what … didn’t see that coming! 

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7/1/2025 2:17pm

That’s crazy. I thought KTM had a 450 ride lined up for him as a reward for winning 250sx? Unless he himself doesn’t want that ride of course. 

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7/1/2025 2:17pm Edited Date/Time 7/1/2025 2:19pm

IMG 6320.jpeg?VersionId=ElT6OlgyC9dqhFCAYwUTacDewolf taking his spot at KTM for 26.

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7/1/2025 2:28pm

Race of championships in Europe, or become a back marker here in the USA.  Vialle’s two SX titles came way to quick. He has not had time to develop into the racer he wants to be in the 450’s. 

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benw127 wrote:
Dewolf taking his spot at KTM for 26.

IMG 6320.jpeg?VersionId=ElT6OlgyC9dqhFCAYwUTacDewolf taking his spot at KTM for 26.

Dewolf taking his spot in the US?  Is that the rumor?  And perplexing Honda would let Gasjer go...  And is it still looking like the Coenens are at HRC in Europe in 26?

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Tumic wrote:

Would not blame him if he did. 

Nope. He had some great 3 years in the US. He maybe didn't ride outdoors how we fans thought he would, but going back with two SX titles is a big win. Sad that we couldn't watch him develop on the 450 in the US if the rumors are true, I think it would have fit him, but if he doesn't feel comfortable in the US anymore, then we really can't blame him. And I don't think he has to worry about money with HRC.

Do we think Vialles plan was always to go back to europe at some point or after his pro career?

 

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Nope. He had some great 3 years in the US. He maybe didn't ride outdoors how we fans thought he would, but going back with two...

Nope. He had some great 3 years in the US. He maybe didn't ride outdoors how we fans thought he would, but going back with two SX titles is a big win. Sad that we couldn't watch him develop on the 450 in the US if the rumors are true, I think it would have fit him, but if he doesn't feel comfortable in the US anymore, then we really can't blame him. And I don't think he has to worry about money with HRC.

Do we think Vialles plan was always to go back to europe at some point or after his pro career?

 

I think it’s clear that something never clicked during his time in the states. 

Yes, he got two SX titles that I think nobody including him self never thought that he would get. But with his struggles outdoors and his really good MXdN ride in France, I think he misses Europe and  maybe believe that it suits him better.

He banked in some good money in the states and I doubt that he would become a title contender in the 450 class in the US so why not go back to the GP’s if he can secure a well payed HRC ride.

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7/1/2025 2:49pm

That's wild a SX specialist going to race MXGP

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NorCal1975 wrote:
Dewolf taking his spot in the US?  Is that the rumor?  And perplexing Honda would let Gasjer go...  And is it still looking like the Coenens...

Dewolf taking his spot in the US?  Is that the rumor?  And perplexing Honda would let Gasjer go...  And is it still looking like the Coenens are at HRC in Europe in 26?

Coenen bros will ride for KTM in 2026 (world championship).

Gajser will probably ride for Yamaha.

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Mavetism wrote:
Nope. He had some great 3 years in the US. He maybe didn't ride outdoors how we fans thought he would, but going back with two...

Nope. He had some great 3 years in the US. He maybe didn't ride outdoors how we fans thought he would, but going back with two SX titles is a big win. Sad that we couldn't watch him develop on the 450 in the US if the rumors are true, I think it would have fit him, but if he doesn't feel comfortable in the US anymore, then we really can't blame him. And I don't think he has to worry about money with HRC.

Do we think Vialles plan was always to go back to europe at some point or after his pro career?

 

Tumic wrote:
I think it’s clear that something never clicked during his time in the states. Yes, he got two SX titles that I think nobody including him self...

I think it’s clear that something never clicked during his time in the states. 

Yes, he got two SX titles that I think nobody including him self never thought that he would get. But with his struggles outdoors and his really good MXdN ride in France, I think he misses Europe and  maybe believe that it suits him better.

He banked in some good money in the states and I doubt that he would become a title contender in the 450 class in the US so why not go back to the GP’s if he can secure a well payed HRC ride.

Maybe he misses the schedule aswell. Having the whole off season/winter to only prepare for MX, way more off weekends/holidays. Maybe he thought about the 450 schedule in the US and was like: "No way I'm doing this for the next couple years" haha.

Anyways, hope he doesn't regret anything and ends up with whatever he likes more, he will be a factor in both the US and MXGP.

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Mavetism wrote:
Nope. He had some great 3 years in the US. He maybe didn't ride outdoors how we fans thought he would, but going back with two...

Nope. He had some great 3 years in the US. He maybe didn't ride outdoors how we fans thought he would, but going back with two SX titles is a big win. Sad that we couldn't watch him develop on the 450 in the US if the rumors are true, I think it would have fit him, but if he doesn't feel comfortable in the US anymore, then we really can't blame him. And I don't think he has to worry about money with HRC.

Do we think Vialles plan was always to go back to europe at some point or after his pro career?

 

Tumic wrote:
I think it’s clear that something never clicked during his time in the states. Yes, he got two SX titles that I think nobody including him self...

I think it’s clear that something never clicked during his time in the states. 

Yes, he got two SX titles that I think nobody including him self never thought that he would get. But with his struggles outdoors and his really good MXdN ride in France, I think he misses Europe and  maybe believe that it suits him better.

He banked in some good money in the states and I doubt that he would become a title contender in the 450 class in the US so why not go back to the GP’s if he can secure a well payed HRC ride.

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Maybe he misses the schedule aswell. Having the whole off season/winter to only prepare for MX, way more off weekends/holidays. Maybe he thought about the 450...

Maybe he misses the schedule aswell. Having the whole off season/winter to only prepare for MX, way more off weekends/holidays. Maybe he thought about the 450 schedule in the US and was like: "No way I'm doing this for the next couple years" haha.

Anyways, hope he doesn't regret anything and ends up with whatever he likes more, he will be a factor in both the US and MXGP.

I forgot to mention the fact that he went to US because he did not feel ready to get on a 450 in the GP’s, and he might go back for the same reason of not wanting to ride SX on one.


 

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7/1/2025 2:56pm

Wise choice if it's true . What would he really accomplish in the states on a 450 . He'd be battling for 10th place with prado.

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benw127 wrote:
Dewolf taking his spot at KTM for 26.

IMG 6320.jpeg?VersionId=ElT6OlgyC9dqhFCAYwUTacDewolf taking his spot at KTM for 26.

Lewis just debunked this one according to his sources.

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7/1/2025 2:59pm

Vialle swap for De Wolf, I think the USA is getting the better end of that trade....

Smart move for both though.

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7/1/2025 3:01pm

That’s a bummer. Does this point to the GP’s being the easier circuit? Kidding. 

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7/1/2025 3:02pm

Man didn't see that coming but it makes sense 450 SX is no joke . Maybe he saw how good lucas is doing in MXGP (i believe talent wise both equal)and the money was good and made the decision. Still can't believe tyga tim wont be in a honda though, so where is he going?🤔

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AZ35 wrote:

Vialle swap for De Wolf, I think the USA is getting the better end of that trade....

Smart move for both though.

Dewolf is not better than vialle.

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AZ35 wrote:

Vialle swap for De Wolf, I think the USA is getting the better end of that trade....

Smart move for both though.

Dirt_Dawg wrote:

Dewolf is not better than vialle.

He's a hell of a lot more exciting than Vialle

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Smart move would be go back to GPs and race WSX. 

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Maybe KTM offered Tom a one year deal and if he doesn’t perform in SX next year on the 450 if could be tough for him to find a ride the in ‘27. Maybe he has a 2 year deal with Honda in Europe and can just focus on motocross on the 450 now moving forward. He probably banked some good money in the 3 years he’s been here whereas if he wouldn’t have came here he would’ve been on a 450 in MXGP 3 years ago. 

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I’d rather see De Wolf on a PC ride. Mitch needs to poach him before Bobby Regan does lol

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7/1/2025 3:07pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2025 5:06pm

Stay in the US and battle Jett and Deegan or.....

Go to Honda MXGP and be front runner, not worry about not getting paid, better schedule, oh and not have to worry about messing himself up badly with SX. He's had some big wrecks, Prado has had some wrecks, heck even Gasjer had a big one on a tamed SX track. I'd go to MXGP too

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7/1/2025 3:07pm

The Vialle rumor's looking good and honestly makes so much sense, once the shock wears off. Shrewd move.

I reached out about the Kay rumor and my good source hadn't even heard that before I mentioned it, so yeah.

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I certainly didn’t see it coming, but I’m also not surprised by it.  I like the kid and will root for him in the GP’s.

We all know Kay wants to come, but it would be a surprise to see it this year.

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Dirt_Dawg wrote:
Man didn't see that coming but it makes sense 450 SX is no joke . Maybe he saw how good lucas is doing in MXGP (i...

Man didn't see that coming but it makes sense 450 SX is no joke . Maybe he saw how good lucas is doing in MXGP (i believe talent wise both equal)and the money was good and made the decision. Still can't believe tyga tim wont be in a honda though, so where is he going?🤔

Gajser to Yamaha alongside Renaux (thanks to Monster Energy).

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This seems pretty big. Seemingly solid “rumor” and seemingly out of nowhere? Ktm is broke and probably won’t fill his supposed seat to offset whatever tomac cost exists. Where does Tim go if he’s actually out of HRC? Where does herlings go if he was actually looking at Honda? Do conens stick at KTM?
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What’s with Tim and Honda, mutal parting or is one over the other? It’s not like he’s not going to be title contender next year. 

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The Vialle rumor's looking good and honestly makes so much sense, once the shock wears off. Shrewd move.I reached out about the Kay rumor and my...

The Vialle rumor's looking good and honestly makes so much sense, once the shock wears off. Shrewd move.

I reached out about the Kay rumor and my good source hadn't even heard that before I mentioned it, so yeah.

If there’s no “really good” offers in the U.S. on a 450…offers that are worthwhile to the rider…

Why the hell wouldn’t he return to the GPs on a Bad-Ass Team/Bike?

Besides all that, he gets return home…and that place is beautiful, the food is amazing…etc, etc, etc.

If this is all true, more power to him. Hell, who’s to say he doesn’t show up back here in a coupl’a years?

I’m stoked for the dude. 

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