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Hardly any passing how could you love this track whoever started top 3-5 ending up top 3-5 not really a good track hardly any passing. Thats...

Hardly any passing how could you love this track whoever started top 3-5 ending up top 3-5 not really a good track hardly any passing. Thats factual 

TeamGreen wrote:

🤣

Are you actually saying the track is “one-lined” and there’s nowhere to pass?

Bwaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa

Mavetism wrote:

Apparently there is no passing cause Hunter is cock blocking everyone 😂

“Let Broc Bye!”

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Clinton Fowler can run the stats hardly any passing at this race within the top 3-5 after the first lap. Ditch the grates for outdoors! 

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Aaron looks like he's struggling physically. Noticed it in Moto 1 but now he's collapsing when hitting bumps

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fins227 wrote:

AMA pace is to fast for euros. 

crusty_xx wrote:

You misspelled Jett 

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Clinton Fowler can run the stats hardly any passing at this race within the top 3-5 after the first lap. Ditch the grates for outdoors! 

Malcolm made 27 passes this moto.

Hampshire made 30 passes first moto. 

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fins227 wrote:

AMA pace is to fast for euros. 

crusty_xx wrote:

You misspelled Jett 

We all apparently know how to watch our races and have some laughs while we’re doing it.

We need a “Vital VIP for Jokers” tent at the races! 🤣

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Jett didn't come to play today.I love Eli, but we have to remember he's 32. Remember when RC retired at 27 because he didn't want to...

Jett didn't come to play today.

I love Eli, but we have to remember he's 32. Remember when RC retired at 27 because he didn't want to chance getting beaten?! Age plays a big factor

Who would have beat RC?  I thought he retired based on the old 10 year burnout formula and also having kids and not wanting to get hurt?

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6/28/2025 12:49pm

I said same thing.  First lap he jumped off.  2nd lap around jumped on.  

It will be interesting to see what the official ruling is. This is not me being a lawrence hater, just thought hunter stretched the rules with not completely rolling the jump.

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6/28/2025 12:50pm

To those saying stuff like Eli is washed, didn’t know getting on the overall podium was washed, he used to have races that were a lot worse position wise than today. Maybe being a consistent podium guy with moto wins and overalls here and there is his new normal.

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6/28/2025 12:50pm

JS: He's been racing George not Whorehey. What a great call

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Jett didn't come to play today.I love Eli, but we have to remember he's 32. Remember when RC retired at 27 because he didn't want to...

Jett didn't come to play today.

I love Eli, but we have to remember he's 32. Remember when RC retired at 27 because he didn't want to chance getting beaten?! Age plays a big factor

Moto Braap wrote:
Who would have beat RC?  I thought he retired based on the old 10 year burnout formula and also having kids and not wanting to get...

Who would have beat RC?  I thought he retired based on the old 10 year burnout formula and also having kids and not wanting to get hurt?

Yea RC pretty much just burned out after so many years of his ridiculous training regime

In interviews he has mentioned that he didn't want to take the risks necessary to keep Stewart at bay in Supercross. But RC did say he could've won 2-3 more outdoors titles if he wanted to

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If I could pull the data in SQL(toad) i could provide you the numbers in excel but by watching this race from the start the top 3-5 after the finish, finished top 3-5 . So no many passing besides prado falling over 

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To those saying stuff like Eli is washed, didn’t know getting on the overall podium was washed, he used to have races that were a lot...

To those saying stuff like Eli is washed, didn’t know getting on the overall podium was washed, he used to have races that were a lot worse position wise than today. Maybe being a consistent podium guy with moto wins and overalls here and there is his new normal.

No doubt it's still impressive, but it's a clear step down from what he used to be

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Is Nichols signed for next year? Might want an SX only deal. 

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6/28/2025 12:55pm

No doubt it's still impressive, but it's a clear step down from what he used to be

Yes, but still very impressive.

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I like this track.

Hardly any passing how could you love this track whoever started top 3-5 ending up top 3-5 not really a good track hardly any passing. Thats...

Hardly any passing how could you love this track whoever started top 3-5 ending up top 3-5 not really a good track hardly any passing. Thats factual 

I just like sandy whooped out tracks.  Cut my teeth on 'em.

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To those saying stuff like Eli is washed, didn’t know getting on the overall podium was washed, he used to have races that were a lot...

To those saying stuff like Eli is washed, didn’t know getting on the overall podium was washed, he used to have races that were a lot worse position wise than today. Maybe being a consistent podium guy with moto wins and overalls here and there is his new normal.

he’s not washed but he ain’t the same guy anymore but thts fine , at least for me his legacy is already cemented in this sport as 1 of the greats , its not the end of the world tht he’s losing to his next generation counterpart , this is sports evolution passing of the torch at its finest 

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Jett controlling his rear wheel and lines is not easy to do in the sand and go fast.

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6/28/2025 12:58pm

450 season stats 

Overall wins 

5 = Jett Lawrence 

Overall podiums 

5 = Jett Lawrence 
4 = Eli Tomac 
3 = Hunter Lawrence 
2 = Aaron Plessinger 
1 = Justin Cooper 

Moto wins 

8 = Jett Lawrence 
2 = Eli Tomac 

Moto top 3 

10 = Jett Lawrence 
7 = Eli Tomac 
5 = Aaron Plessinger 
5 = Hunter Lawrence 
3 = Justin Cooper 

Laps lead 

116 = Jett Lawrence 
19 = Aaron Plessinger 
11 = Eli Tomac 
5 = Justin Cooper
1 = Hunter Lawrence 
1 = Coty Schock 

Fastest lap of the moto 

6 = Jett Lawrence 
2 = Eli Tomac 
1 = Aaron Plessinger 
1 = Hunter Lawrence 

Pole in practice 

3 = Justin Cooper 
2 = Jett Lawrence 

Holeshot 

4 = Jett Lawrence 
3 = Hunter Lawrence 
1 = Cooper Webb 
1 = Justin Cooper 
1 = Coty Schock

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6/28/2025 12:59pm

Man that sucks for Prado. I know he crashed but he was right on Jett's rear wheel and still got beat by over a minute and a half...

Hopefully he still gains some confidence from this weekend

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Start cross. If the top 3-5 after the first lap finish 3-5 I’d consider that start cross… ditch the grates.

Like nascar ristricter plate… ruined it. They didn’t need to make that change 3 years back. 

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To those saying stuff like Eli is washed, didn’t know getting on the overall podium was washed, he used to have races that were a lot...

To those saying stuff like Eli is washed, didn’t know getting on the overall podium was washed, he used to have races that were a lot worse position wise than today. Maybe being a consistent podium guy with moto wins and overalls here and there is his new normal.

No doubt it's still impressive, but it's a clear step down from what he used to be

Nah - Jett is just a step too far. 

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Ok it's really time for Jett to move up now, enough with sandbagging the 450 class.

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To those saying stuff like Eli is washed, didn’t know getting on the overall podium was washed, he used to have races that were a lot...

To those saying stuff like Eli is washed, didn’t know getting on the overall podium was washed, he used to have races that were a lot worse position wise than today. Maybe being a consistent podium guy with moto wins and overalls here and there is his new normal.

No doubt it's still impressive, but it's a clear step down from what he used to be

Nah - Jett is just a step too far. 

If you think 32 year old Tomac coming off 2 big injuries is still as good as his prime then you're delusional

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Is Nichols signed for next year? Might want an SX only deal. 

Yaa not a good look, he was doing the same in sx on the Beta last year. 

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Moto Braap wrote:

Jett controlling his rear wheel and lines is not easy to do in the sand and go fast.

Good thing I don’t do fantasy because I wasn’t expecting Hunter to beat Tomac after seeing Eli flying in practice.  Tomac said how the competition upped its game.  Not sure if Tomac rode any slower or if Hunter is just making it look easy cruising behind his brother.

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Moto Braap wrote:
Who would have beat RC?  I thought he retired based on the old 10 year burnout formula and also having kids and not wanting to get...

Who would have beat RC?  I thought he retired based on the old 10 year burnout formula and also having kids and not wanting to get hurt?

According to Vital, he retired because they started drug testing.

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Start cross. If the top 3-5 after the first lap finish 3-5 I’d consider that start cross… ditch the grates.Like nascar ristricter plate… ruined it. They...

Start cross. If the top 3-5 after the first lap finish 3-5 I’d consider that start cross… ditch the grates.

Like nascar ristricter plate… ruined it. They didn’t need to make that change 3 years back. 

If the fastest riders all get a good start it’s pretty unlikely the slower guys will pass them so ofcourse they will stay out front. 

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