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Gworm
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6/24/2025 5:54am

Beautiful bike…2 strokes are awesome!

What color powerband did it come with?

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BoxcarWilly
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6/24/2025 6:23am
kzizok wrote:
Subjectively, do you get the impression that the TM would compete with the market favorites of the KTM group?  In other words, does it seem to...

Subjectively, do you get the impression that the TM would compete with the market favorites of the KTM group?  In other words, does it seem to get to that extra power sweet spot like the KTM’s or is it just a hair below the market leaders?  

If you gave me the choice between a KTM and an equivalent TM model, I'm picking the TM every time. Especially now with KTM's pricing being not that far off of TM. Hopefully their new NA distribution really pushes them forward. 

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slipdog
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6/24/2025 8:55am

But is it turbo vaned inside?

Man, I would love to make that happen, but that dream all but died about 10 years ago, ironically, when the new US importer, Cam, sent his new 144 motor from Canada for the treatment. After the middleman machinist went mia for a few weeks with the crank, I decided the arrangement wasn't going to work. 

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6/25/2025 10:47am

But is it turbo vaned inside?

slipdog wrote:
Man, I would love to make that happen, but that dream all but died about 10 years ago, ironically, when the new US importer, Cam, sent...

Man, I would love to make that happen, but that dream all but died about 10 years ago, ironically, when the new US importer, Cam, sent his new 144 motor from Canada for the treatment. After the middleman machinist went mia for a few weeks with the crank, I decided the arrangement wasn't going to work. 

MXA did a test on the 25 125 . The carb model it sounds real good it pulls longer on top than a 25 Husky.  

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kzizok
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6/25/2025 10:47am
kzizok wrote:
Subjectively, do you get the impression that the TM would compete with the market favorites of the KTM group?  In other words, does it seem to...

Subjectively, do you get the impression that the TM would compete with the market favorites of the KTM group?  In other words, does it seem to get to that extra power sweet spot like the KTM’s or is it just a hair below the market leaders?  

slipdog wrote:
From just a couple of hours on this bike, I'd say likely yes, but to be fair, we haven't tried an 85. He's already comfortable on...

From just a couple of hours on this bike, I'd say likely yes, but to be fair, we haven't tried an 85. He's already comfortable on it, and it's all around faster than his 105 supermini, but we haven't tried a built Austrian 112. Heard too many reliability stories after stroking the 105. I may get an 85 for next year since he's now 13 and they've made 19/16 big wheels legal in the 85/mini sr. class. I have no hesitation. 

Nice. I always wondered what their celing is. Ive always thought they were trick and seriously thought about getting a supermini too for my son but just never did. Man what a cool bike and congrats to you and your son!

romain524
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7/26/2025 6:20pm

Sick mini! How is your kid liking it after a few more rides?

OleTex2
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7/28/2025 7:36pm

Nice!

7/28/2025 8:19pm

There was 2 TM 125,s at Xmas ,Mi. Sand track .  1 was blue & white it looked real clean .  It sounded good & went threw the endless sand bumps ,Very straight .   A lot better than my bike my suspension is wayy too soft in the front.  There was 65 125 mod bikes there it blended in . And sounded good mid to top .  A young girl had a pink one she ripped .  

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7/28/2025 9:07pm
romain524 wrote:

Sick mini! How is your kid liking it after a few more rides?

He really likes it. We've spent the last few weeks setting it up for him, as he'd been on Austrian 85s for the last few years. Now that we have spring rates and gearing dialed in, he's riding as well as he ever has. 

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romain524
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7/28/2025 9:14pm
slipdog wrote:
He really likes it. We've spent the last few weeks setting it up for him, as he'd been on Austrian 85s for the last few years...

He really likes it. We've spent the last few weeks setting it up for him, as he'd been on Austrian 85s for the last few years. Now that we have spring rates and gearing dialed in, he's riding as well as he ever has. 

Sweet! Is the bottom as good as the Austrians?

I know the TM125 is mostly mid/top.

Are you still modding engines these days?

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7/28/2025 9:56pm
slipdog wrote:
He really likes it. We've spent the last few weeks setting it up for him, as he'd been on Austrian 85s for the last few years...

He really likes it. We've spent the last few weeks setting it up for him, as he'd been on Austrian 85s for the last few years. Now that we have spring rates and gearing dialed in, he's riding as well as he ever has. 

romain524 wrote:

Sweet! Is the bottom as good as the Austrians?

I know the TM125 is mostly mid/top.

Are you still modding engines these days?

In stock form, it had almost too much bottom and was lacking up top. It took a few rides to realize it was geared pretty low and after a few sprocket changes he's happy with the top, shifting less and still pulling out of tight corners strong.

I still tinker with motors from time to time and will get a look at the internals this week because it's at 20hrs now and I was planning to re-ring it tomorrow and measure everything. 

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TeamGreen
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7/29/2025 8:12am
slipdog wrote:
He really likes it. We've spent the last few weeks setting it up for him, as he'd been on Austrian 85s for the last few years...

He really likes it. We've spent the last few weeks setting it up for him, as he'd been on Austrian 85s for the last few years. Now that we have spring rates and gearing dialed in, he's riding as well as he ever has. 

romain524 wrote:

Sweet! Is the bottom as good as the Austrians?

I know the TM125 is mostly mid/top.

Are you still modding engines these days?

slipdog wrote:
In stock form, it had almost too much bottom and was lacking up top. It took a few rides to realize it was geared pretty low...

In stock form, it had almost too much bottom and was lacking up top. It took a few rides to realize it was geared pretty low and after a few sprocket changes he's happy with the top, shifting less and still pulling out of tight corners strong.

I still tinker with motors from time to time and will get a look at the internals this week because it's at 20hrs now and I was planning to re-ring it tomorrow and measure everything. 

I’m loving this thread…knowing you’re having fun 2 ways…

Watching him learn -AND- seeing him having fun doing it.

Getting to develop a new and “different” bike.

Very stoked for you. 

7/29/2025 11:01am
slipdog wrote:
He really likes it. We've spent the last few weeks setting it up for him, as he'd been on Austrian 85s for the last few years...

He really likes it. We've spent the last few weeks setting it up for him, as he'd been on Austrian 85s for the last few years. Now that we have spring rates and gearing dialed in, he's riding as well as he ever has. 

romain524 wrote:

Sweet! Is the bottom as good as the Austrians?

I know the TM125 is mostly mid/top.

Are you still modding engines these days?

slipdog wrote:
In stock form, it had almost too much bottom and was lacking up top. It took a few rides to realize it was geared pretty low...

In stock form, it had almost too much bottom and was lacking up top. It took a few rides to realize it was geared pretty low and after a few sprocket changes he's happy with the top, shifting less and still pulling out of tight corners strong.

I still tinker with motors from time to time and will get a look at the internals this week because it's at 20hrs now and I was planning to re-ring it tomorrow and measure everything. 

Sounds Great  doing a good job dialing it in. Most people don’t think about dropping a tooth.  I was going to but I,m sticking with stock gearing , they all say it’s too tall.   I like the quickness my bike has.  Only 1 practice after vet then 125 was on the gate.  I,m gussling water my pal walks up & says 125 is on the gate. I said fill it up while I got my helmet on. I raced to the start they had the rpm’s high. Not a sec to do holeshot device or prep gate .  I,m lookin for a board guy there is none .  Everyone s rpm’s went wo & held it  . So I put it 1st jump get a jump not a sec to concentrate .  Start goes rt then a few ft into a tight left 8-9 ft wide . I was 14-15th a lot of bumping but clean .  Threw mid I,m competitive but on top I give up a lot .  A riders dad said there Linx engine was 43. A local tuner got more out a cylinder sounds like they use both depending on the track .  Stock TM is what 38.7 that’s Great but 23 of 25 hv mod engines.  I woukd race it stock a little. In a race he,ll figure out real quick what he needs more of. Rt of the box was the best gates & it shorter to the 1st turn.  I was far left I pulled everyone near me hyper shifting .  I didn’t get the best of the mid either on the start .  I shifted early .  Reliability on the hvy mod bikes isn’t so good tho.  

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