Whats the deal with everyone saying RV got smoked in MXGP?

It didn’t go well. And I’m a big RV fan. 

Because if Jett went over next year for MXGP and went 7-1-4- crash out, everyone would say he got smoked. Jett got 3rd in a moto last week and people almost flipped their wig.

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RV was expected to WIN ! He didn’t really want to be there to begin with. 
 

His heart was never really in it but his ego was and that got him a win and then a quick exit from the series and his career

I don't think everyone remembers. Or werent listening to podcasts back than. RV put half the work into it that he would a normal season. He was cooked and went over not prepared. Just tryign to get the spark back. He would of raced his way to the front. (expecially with the top 4 in pints not finihsing the year). 

But yeah. My point is, that wasn't the RV we saw in AMA. That was RV on the Cooper webb program outdoors

Febvre had an even worse start to the season that year, was below RV in points when RV got injured and ended up as the Champ that year. So no, I don't think his season was a failure. Bad crashes and injuries happen all the time to the best in this sport. I'm sure he would have contended for the title. 

Looking back at the season reminds me how good Nagl was that year, probably his best form ever. Him and Cairoli also got injured early that year sadly.. These two had some great battles

I thought he was well on his way to battle for the title...  His finishes weren't what he was used to, but he was in it.  We all knew he went in half assed and was going to need to work on fitness and motivation.  The crash and injury was a bummer.  But he didn't get smoked, he literally won his second ever MXGP race.

No doubt RV would have done better as the season progressed. So many different dynamics going on. And I am/was also a fan of RV. 

RV in his prime compered to Jett now? 

His personality,  reminds me of Tomac.  


 

So the whole tjing was just a big cop out?

He was over it by that point. 

Coccyx. 

The whole RV to MXGP reeked  of trying to appease Kawasaki when he wanted to retire and quit racing cold turkey and Kawasaki holding him to a contract. I got no proof of it, but it just felt that way. Would explain why they weren’t exactly on good terms and he took a deal to be ambassador for Yamaha.

We all had great expectations when they dropped the news that he was coming over. But as soon as he decided to do his winter training in the US with Tyla Rattray on his US spec bike you could see than something was wrong. 

Before the start of the season he put in a week or two of testing in italy and spain, being clearly out of shape compared to his US form. We all expected to get prime RV and got nothing like it. 

He complained about the bike (that he put very little interest to develop in the first place) and it was clear that he was not there to win it any more.The feelings we europeans got was simular o what you get from Prado now. 

He rode great in thailand but otherwise he was really off the pace compared to the guys he should have been batteling with.

I like RV but as a fan of the GP's that was one of the more satisfying situations haha.. It showed that the GPs were every bit as fast as the US (I didn't say faster! Just as fast)

I dunno if I can accept he was under prepared, he had what, 9 months? Remember he took the 2014 outdoors to get 'prepared'.. His motivation may have been lacking but I dunno if that should be an excuse..

I wouldn't say he got smoked either but he definitely didn't do what he and everyone in here thought he was going to do.. Even the round he won he went 1-3 (from memory) on a track that was fairly suited to him plus it was super hot 

Some of the comments since are pretty funny considering what the threads were saying before the opening round haha.. Everyone in here was talking about him having way more time to ride JUST mx and didn't have to ride any sx.. and if he was that good outdoors with 2 weeks prep imagine what he'll do to the Euros with half a years prep. If any video popped up it was people in in here laughing about how much he was gonna whoop everybody cause he 'looked comfortable' which is where that joke came from..

Malin said a rider 'landed on his coccyx' this weekend and I swear you could hear him smiling when he said it haha

He was under preapared to race the GP's on the GP spec bike, but that is on him. He could have put in o good two months of training and testing in europe on those conditions if he wanted to. But i doubt that it felt so appealing for a Floridian to train at Lommel in rain and snow for two months during the winter.

Mentioning the super hot. Rv said that moto 2 at Thailand he was cooked and he was sure the competition had IV's between motos. We will never know if that is true. But I remember him saying it

I wouldn’t say RV got smoked but he did underperform for his stature. It was great seeing his all out attack style compared to Clement DeSelle who looks very old skool. It was a shame he got injured so early in the season. Could he have won the championship? I dunno. I think his undoing would’ve been on the sand tracks like Valkenswaard, Kegums & Lommel.

What's the deal? He got smoked.

He smoked the GP guys on a 250f in 2007. Twice. So if anyone has anything to say, fuck ‘em.
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Yeah but he also won the Saturday race by like 30 secs pushing the whole time, I remember the Euros were like 'it's just for gate pick bro take it easy' haha So maybe they saved themselves a bit.. 

I wonder if IVs are against the rules in GPs.. Probably don't have much need to put it in the rule book haha

MXGP Finished his career unfortunately. MXGP is brutal 

RV's gone over this. He wanted to get out of his US Kawi contract and the only way out was to race for Kawi Europe. RV was cooked, done with racing and out of shape when he went to Europe. The RV over there was a shadow of the real RV. 

Wasn’t it Herlings who said that he couldn’t believe it was RV out there practicing in Belgium pre-season ’15, Herlings was on a small bike back then and passed him more than once like he was an amateur.

Yep, RV didn't want to be there and was only there because Kawi let him go there instead of racing SX and MX in America to fulfil his contract.

His injury was the same as the one Chase has now.

If winning one race out of four is a bad result people are out of their minds. It's the whole GP's are so elite narrative. RV goes over basically retired and underprepared, everyone knows it, on a bike that was refused to be set up the way he likes, in a series he didn't want to race, and beat the supposed best racers in the world within the four races he competed in.

Well said! You said it perfectly.  But this is Vital and you know how that goes…. 

There are always reasons when someone does bad. Like Prado. You can't tell me he's just an 8th place rider and that's his skill level. Same for RV. He won on a supercrossy track in Thailand at like 110 degrees, the rest of the experiment didn't go very well. But I don't think anybody in their right mind believed that Max Nagl was just a better rider than him...
For what it's worth, Febvre ended taking that title after every single top guy went out injured. If RV doesn't get hurt chances are he wins that title easily

Had he not gotten hurt, I believe there was a good chance he would win the championship. That year everyone got hurt after RV did