Ashley&JP are 1 sec off qualifying w/the guys.

Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 5:00am
The 40th qualifier in the guys 250 class ran 2:31.5. JP ran a 2"32.9 and Ashley a 2:32.5. That's damn close.


Even more eye opening and amazing is In moto 2 on the roughest track of the day AF's fast lap was 2:37.84and JP's was 2:37.2 . Jessicas and Ashleys 2nd moto fast laops were faster then 8 guys could go in the 250 2nd moto. They were faster then #772 R,Noftz , #793 Y.Ikegaya, #976 J.Greco, #565 P.Mull, #446 F.Lettieri, #354 T.Freistat,#288 D.Alexander, & #118 B.Perry.

Also only a 1/2 sec off of guys like Chris Johnson ,Pennington and a few others.


Anyone that thinks those girls aren't fast enough to race the guys is just kidding them selves and scared to admit it. These girls are hauling ass. Real pro speed. They're not just fast "for a girl" any more. They're just straight up fast. The margin is getting thinner every year.


The only shitty thing is after the top three the class drops off quite a bit. Even more so after the top 10. When someone like JP can start dead last and get into the top 5 in 2 laps we have a slight issue. From 1st to 29th there's a 48 sec a lap swing. That's really bad and somewhat dangerous.


I think on off weeks Ashley and Jessica should really give trying to qualify a shot.
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9/11/2010 7:16pm
The 40th qualifier in the guys 250 class ran 2:31.5. JP ran a 2"32.9 and Ashley a 2:32.5. That's damn close. Even more eye opening and...
The 40th qualifier in the guys 250 class ran 2:31.5. JP ran a 2"32.9 and Ashley a 2:32.5. That's damn close.


Even more eye opening and amazing is In moto 2 on the roughest track of the day AF's fast lap was 2:37.84and JP's was 2:37.2 . Jessicas and Ashleys 2nd moto fast laops were faster then 8 guys could go in the 250 2nd moto. They were faster then #772 R,Noftz , #793 Y.Ikegaya, #976 J.Greco, #565 P.Mull, #446 F.Lettieri, #354 T.Freistat,#288 D.Alexander, & #118 B.Perry.

Also only a 1/2 sec off of guys like Chris Johnson ,Pennington and a few others.


Anyone that thinks those girls aren't fast enough to race the guys is just kidding them selves and scared to admit it. These girls are hauling ass. Real pro speed. They're not just fast "for a girl" any more. They're just straight up fast. The margin is getting thinner every year.


The only shitty thing is after the top three the class drops off quite a bit. Even more so after the top 10. When someone like JP can start dead last and get into the top 5 in 2 laps we have a slight issue. From 1st to 29th there's a 48 sec a lap swing. That's really bad and somewhat dangerous.


I think on off weeks Ashley and Jessica should really give trying to qualify a shot.
There's some fast women racers nowadays. Wonder if Fiolek still has that goal to be the first woman to ever qualify for a pro national?

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9/11/2010 7:18pm
Didn't Mercedes accomplish that?

Or not?
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9/11/2010 7:41pm
team mydol/playtex...exactly what mx needs. imagine the media when a girl gets seriously injured racing with the boys
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9/11/2010 7:45pm Edited Date/Time 9/11/2010 7:46pm
`ol Ger wrote:
Didn't Mercedes accomplish that?

Or not?
I don't think Mercedes did but I believe Sue Fish did in the late 70's or 80's.

If you stick Ashley and Jessica on a track with 40 fast guys trying to set a fast lap would they still be in the hunt?

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9/11/2010 9:08pm
`ol Ger wrote:
Didn't Mercedes accomplish that?

Or not?
DownSouth wrote:
I don't think Mercedes did but I believe Sue Fish did in the late 70's or 80's. If you stick Ashley and Jessica on a track...
I don't think Mercedes did but I believe Sue Fish did in the late 70's or 80's.

If you stick Ashley and Jessica on a track with 40 fast guys trying to set a fast lap would they still be in the hunt?
No Mercedes or Sue Fish did NOT qualify for national.
The only woman that did was Italian Steffy Bau in like 2001 or 02 at an east coast national and she was the womens national champ here and several times world champ
and she was probably a little faster than the fastest girls now and she barely qualified and finished in the mid 30's.....
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9/11/2010 9:14pm
Whats the euro champs name Lancelot? She's faster than Patterson and Ashley. Hot too HAHA!
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9/11/2010 9:17pm
Doreen Payne qualified at the Colarado National in 1983.
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9/11/2010 9:20pm
Whats the euro champs name Lancelot? She's faster than Patterson and Ashley. Hot too HAHA!
I was thinking the same thing! I bet she could qualify. Give Ashley a couple more years and I think she will do it.
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9/11/2010 9:26pm
Whats the euro champs name Lancelot? She's faster than Patterson and Ashley. Hot too HAHA!
I was thinking the same thing! I bet she could qualify. Give Ashley a couple more years and I think she will do it.
And she's hot!
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9/11/2010 9:36pm
I've always appreciated the TOP girls speed. But I've been one of the guys who used to think that it would be another 10 years before a woman qualifies for an AMA outdoor National. Now,I'm thinking within 2 or 3 years it will be done. AF and JP,as well as a few others are really professional in their training and are pretty fearless. I'm impressed and can see how far they have come in just the last 2 years. Congrats to them. Keep on keepin' on!
9/11/2010 9:39pm
Whats the euro champs name Lancelot? She's faster than Patterson and Ashley. Hot too HAHA!
Stefy Laier is the two time and current WMX world champ. 2009 -2010. Livia Lancelot is the 2008 world champ. Livia and Stefy both handled Ashley every moto ashley raced in Europe. That's not to say that Ashley wouldn't smoke them both here in the states. As we all know it's a big difference between going over their on foreign land and foreign equipment.

A big reason why I admire Ashley so much is every year she runs two maybe three GP races. I've yet to see Livia or Stefy try coming over here.
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9/11/2010 9:40pm
`ol Ger wrote:
Didn't Mercedes accomplish that?

Or not?
DownSouth wrote:
I don't think Mercedes did but I believe Sue Fish did in the late 70's or 80's. If you stick Ashley and Jessica on a track...
I don't think Mercedes did but I believe Sue Fish did in the late 70's or 80's.

If you stick Ashley and Jessica on a track with 40 fast guys trying to set a fast lap would they still be in the hunt?
web mx wrote:
No Mercedes or Sue Fish did NOT qualify for national. The only woman that did was Italian Steffy Bau in like 2001 or 02 at an...
No Mercedes or Sue Fish did NOT qualify for national.
The only woman that did was Italian Steffy Bau in like 2001 or 02 at an east coast national and she was the womens national champ here and several times world champ
and she was probably a little faster than the fastest girls now and she barely qualified and finished in the mid 30's.....
Steffy Bau was nowhere near AF or JP speed. Fish and Mercedes were far below them. Granted,bikes and training methods are far superior now,but those of us who ride the tracks with them on a weekly basis can attest to todays girls dominance IMO.
9/11/2010 9:42pm
Whats the euro champs name Lancelot? She's faster than Patterson and Ashley. Hot too HAHA!
Stefy Laier is the two time and current WMX world champ. 2009 -2010. Livia Lancelot is the 2008 world champ. Livia and Stefy both handled Ashley...
Stefy Laier is the two time and current WMX world champ. 2009 -2010. Livia Lancelot is the 2008 world champ. Livia and Stefy both handled Ashley every moto ashley raced in Europe. That's not to say that Ashley wouldn't smoke them both here in the states. As we all know it's a big difference between going over their on foreign land and foreign equipment.

A big reason why I admire Ashley so much is every year she runs two maybe three GP races. I've yet to see Livia or Stefy try coming over here.
1/2 the time I think Stefy Laier and Steve Ramon are the same person though.

Steve Ramon




Stefy Laier




9/11/2010 9:54pm
Let me correct myself.

First woman to qualify for a National on a 4 stroke*****
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9/13/2010 11:06am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2010 11:08am
`ol Ger wrote:
Didn't Mercedes accomplish that?

Or not?
DownSouth wrote:
I don't think Mercedes did but I believe Sue Fish did in the late 70's or 80's. If you stick Ashley and Jessica on a track...
I don't think Mercedes did but I believe Sue Fish did in the late 70's or 80's.

If you stick Ashley and Jessica on a track with 40 fast guys trying to set a fast lap would they still be in the hunt?
web mx wrote:
No Mercedes or Sue Fish did NOT qualify for national. The only woman that did was Italian Steffy Bau in like 2001 or 02 at an...
No Mercedes or Sue Fish did NOT qualify for national.
The only woman that did was Italian Steffy Bau in like 2001 or 02 at an east coast national and she was the womens national champ here and several times world champ
and she was probably a little faster than the fastest girls now and she barely qualified and finished in the mid 30's.....
Which national did Stefy qualify for. She was quick but I never saw her as fast enough to qualify for a national. There's no way Stefy was faster than JD or Asley.. No fckin way. Not even close. Tracy Fleming (who won the womans title in like 98 or 99) used to occasionally beat Stefy and Tracy couldn't even win the boys 125 nov class here in the NW let alone come close to making a national. I'm not saying it never happened but as far as I know to date no girl has qualified for a national yet.



Key word is yet. I think it will happen soon though.
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9/13/2010 11:18am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2010 11:21am
And remember the Lady's run last so the track is more torn up making it slower when they go out.



I am pretty sure a female has never qualified in a AMA 12/250/450 class. I remember someone trying at High Point. Sucks they would not let them try to qualify and also race in the WMA race too......its one or the other.
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9/13/2010 11:30am
DownSouth wrote:
I don't think Mercedes did but I believe Sue Fish did in the late 70's or 80's. If you stick Ashley and Jessica on a track...
I don't think Mercedes did but I believe Sue Fish did in the late 70's or 80's.

If you stick Ashley and Jessica on a track with 40 fast guys trying to set a fast lap would they still be in the hunt?
web mx wrote:
No Mercedes or Sue Fish did NOT qualify for national. The only woman that did was Italian Steffy Bau in like 2001 or 02 at an...
No Mercedes or Sue Fish did NOT qualify for national.
The only woman that did was Italian Steffy Bau in like 2001 or 02 at an east coast national and she was the womens national champ here and several times world champ
and she was probably a little faster than the fastest girls now and she barely qualified and finished in the mid 30's.....
Which national did Stefy qualify for. She was quick but I never saw her as fast enough to qualify for a national. There's no way Stefy...
Which national did Stefy qualify for. She was quick but I never saw her as fast enough to qualify for a national. There's no way Stefy was faster than JD or Asley.. No fckin way. Not even close. Tracy Fleming (who won the womans title in like 98 or 99) used to occasionally beat Stefy and Tracy couldn't even win the boys 125 nov class here in the NW let alone come close to making a national. I'm not saying it never happened but as far as I know to date no girl has qualified for a national yet.



Key word is yet. I think it will happen soon though.
Agreed. I saw Stefy try to qualify for Daytona and it was not impressive. She rode ok, but must have been at least 20 seconds off.
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i just dont see what one of these girls will gain from qualifying 40th at a national and getting lapped multiple times during the race. Not to mention the fact that some privateer is gonna miss out on a spot because a girl with a semi and factory sponsorship wants to ride with the boys.
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9/13/2010 11:45am
I am real sure that Bau was 41st or 42nd at a national back in the day, no female has ever made it yet.

I would love to see it happen that would be great for the sport.

Make those guys in 35th gettin lapped look silly!!!
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MX4EVR wrote:
I am real sure that Bau was 41st or 42nd at a national back in the day, no female has ever made it yet. I would...
I am real sure that Bau was 41st or 42nd at a national back in the day, no female has ever made it yet.

I would love to see it happen that would be great for the sport.

Make those guys in 35th gettin lapped look silly!!!
It has already happened, back in '83 Doreen Payne

http://www.womensmxhistory.com/Profiles/dorene_payne.htm
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i just dont see what one of these girls will gain from qualifying 40th at a national and getting lapped multiple times during the race. Not...
i just dont see what one of these girls will gain from qualifying 40th at a national and getting lapped multiple times during the race. Not to mention the fact that some privateer is gonna miss out on a spot because a girl with a semi and factory sponsorship wants to ride with the boys.
Some privateer missed out on a spot on the gate at Southwick when Short used his provisional......lifes tough....wear a helmet.
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9/13/2010 12:09pm
`ol Ger wrote:
Didn't Mercedes accomplish that?

Or not?
DownSouth wrote:
I don't think Mercedes did but I believe Sue Fish did in the late 70's or 80's. If you stick Ashley and Jessica on a track...
I don't think Mercedes did but I believe Sue Fish did in the late 70's or 80's.

If you stick Ashley and Jessica on a track with 40 fast guys trying to set a fast lap would they still be in the hunt?
web mx wrote:
No Mercedes or Sue Fish did NOT qualify for national. The only woman that did was Italian Steffy Bau in like 2001 or 02 at an...
No Mercedes or Sue Fish did NOT qualify for national.
The only woman that did was Italian Steffy Bau in like 2001 or 02 at an east coast national and she was the womens national champ here and several times world champ
and she was probably a little faster than the fastest girls now and she barely qualified and finished in the mid 30's.....
Bau tried for a couple years at Unadilla but never made it. It was back when you actually had to race in, she was close, but not quite on that level.
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9/13/2010 12:09pm
The ama should let woman pro's who want to qualify for the lites ride a 250 2 stroke Smile
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Elaina Meyers (sp?) is an attractive and well spoken 16 year old girl that is racing for the win w/ the boys in AMA National 600cc Supersport racing. Admittedly RR is not as physically demanding as MX but the same huge gap has always existed between the men and the women in RR that has in MX.

Pretty impressive what the women are doing now although honestly after the top five in WMA they all look like Novice race speed.
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Way to go Doreen! Cheerful
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Laier came here in 2003 and went undefeated. The only time she has been beaten on U.S soil is when she fell at the WMA cup in Texas and broke her leg.
She is not too interested in returning as she has more competition in Europe and does not speak English very well.
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i just dont see what one of these girls will gain from qualifying 40th at a national and getting lapped multiple times during the race. Not...
i just dont see what one of these girls will gain from qualifying 40th at a national and getting lapped multiple times during the race. Not to mention the fact that some privateer is gonna miss out on a spot because a girl with a semi and factory sponsorship wants to ride with the boys.
jndmx wrote:
Some privateer missed out on a spot on the gate at Southwick when Short used his provisional......lifes tough....wear a helmet.
If a girl qualifies then she earned that right to be there fair and square!

That privateer was Mike Hacia and it was his first National ever. He was really upset.
9/13/2010 12:48pm Edited Date/Time 9/13/2010 12:50pm
Whats the euro champs name Lancelot? She's faster than Patterson and Ashley. Hot too HAHA!
I was thinking the same thing! I bet she could qualify. Give Ashley a couple more years and I think she will do it.
And she's hot!
once she masters the whoops she WILL be there... that's the one place on the track she loses time (JP can blitz them and is barely faster than her). once she gets them down i know she can do it .....
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9/13/2010 1:09pm
Yeah the whoops are definitely Ashley's weak point. She'll get them down.
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9/13/2010 1:13pm
Whats the euro champs name Lancelot? She's faster than Patterson and Ashley. Hot too HAHA!
Stefy Laier is the two time and current WMX world champ. 2009 -2010. Livia Lancelot is the 2008 world champ. Livia and Stefy both handled Ashley...
Stefy Laier is the two time and current WMX world champ. 2009 -2010. Livia Lancelot is the 2008 world champ. Livia and Stefy both handled Ashley every moto ashley raced in Europe. That's not to say that Ashley wouldn't smoke them both here in the states. As we all know it's a big difference between going over their on foreign land and foreign equipment.

A big reason why I admire Ashley so much is every year she runs two maybe three GP races. I've yet to see Livia or Stefy try coming over here.
Livia did a couple of races here in the States back in 2004, she was not even close to the pace at the time... But she has gotten a lot faster since then for sure.

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