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You can follow me on strava if you think your some sort of athlete ill blow your shit out of the water hung over… Come ride...

You can follow me on strava if you think your some sort of athlete ill blow your shit out of the water hung over… Come ride aliso/laguna on vacation 

LungButter wrote:

Where did I say a word about being an athlete?

Keep running your mouth ol’ boy, it’s hilarious. 

 

I didn’t call you out in the first place. 

You didn’t have to respond to my original comment right? You could have just kept scrolling 

Little help here?;

Lungbutter loves debating himself. If you are in the way? He'll debate the Fuk out of you to keep his life worth.

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Hcallz5 wrote:
Just got home from a long day of riding and then a wedding. Log in to peacock and I can't even watch the race RIP but also...

Just got home from a long day of riding and then a wedding. Log in to peacock and I can't even watch the race RIP

 

but also WTF man that's all I wanted this evening. 

Replays are always hard to find when they are first available, have to be specific with your search but it's there.

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Can we the people vote for no grates? Or the racers I’m sure the OG motocross fans will vote no. 

Start cross all over again. 

This guy is annoying

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5/24/2025 9:03pm

Welp, how long until Anaheim 1?

Wanna bet?

Donate the winnings to St Judes?

$50.00 St Judes? 

who do you want?

https://www.stjude.org/donate/donate-to-st-jude.html?&sc_dcm=5870000879…

Bet what? That I won't be bored watching 80% of the MX motos this year?

Or did you completely misunderstand my post...

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5/24/2025 9:13pm

Fastest laps of the races 

250 moto 1 

2.18.740 = Julien Beaumer
2.19.483 = Chance Hymas 
2.19.808 = Garrett Marchbanks 
2.20.087 = Haiden Deegan 
2.20.408 = Seth Hammaker 
2.20.751 = Ty Masterpool 
2.21.054 = Tom Vialle
2.21.229 = Jo Shimoda 
2.22.053 = Casey Cochran
2.22.614 = Michael Mosiman 

450 moto 1 

2.19.185 = Jett Lawrence 
2.20.033 = Justin Cooper 
2.20.292 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.20.594 = Eli Tomac 
2.21.265 = Aaron Plessinger 
2.21.376 = Chase Sexton 
2.21.745 = Cooper Webb
2.21.784 = RJ Hampshire 
2.23.766 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.24.419 = Joey Savatgy 

250 moto 2 

2.19.931 = Jo Shimoda 
2.20.152 = Chance Hymas
2.20.177 = Haiden Deegan 
2.20.372 = Garrett Marchbanks 
2.20.846 = Julien Beaumer
2.21.166 = Tom Vialle
2.21.775 = Seth Hammaker 
2.21.853 = Ryder Difrancesco 
2.21.965 = Michael Mosiman 
2.22.897 = Maximus Vohland 

450 moto 2 

2.16.736 = Jett Lawrence 
2.17.768 = Eli Tomac 
2.20.313 = Cooper Webb 
2.20.701 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.20.818 = Aaron Plessinger 
2.21.253 = Justin Cooper 
2.21.461 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.21.694 = Jason Anderson 
2.23.092 = Malcolm Stewart 
2.23.350 = RJ Hampshire

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5/24/2025 9:22pm Edited Date/Time 5/24/2025 9:30pm

450 season stats 

Overall wins 

1 = Jett Lawrence 

Overall podiums 

1 = Jett Lawrence 
1 = Eli Tomac 
1 = Hunter Lawrence 

Moto wins 

2 = Jett Lawrence 

Moto top 3 

2 = Jett Lawrence 
1 = Eli Tomac 
1 = Hunter Lawrence 
1 = Aaron Plessinger 
1 = Justin Cooper 

Laps lead 

31 = Jett Lawrence 

Fastest lap of the moto 

2 = Jett Lawrence 

Pole in practice 

1 = Jett Lawrence

Holeshot 

1 = Jett Lawrence 
1 = Hunter Lawrence

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5/24/2025 9:22pm

250 season stats 

Overall wins 

1 = Haiden Deegan 

Overall podiums 

1 = Haiden Deegan 

Moto wins 

2 = Haiden Deegan 

Moto top 3 

2 = Haiden Deegan 
2 = Jo Shimoda 
1 = Tom Vialle 
1 = Chance Hymas 

Laps lead 

17 = Haiden Deegan 
7 = Julien Beaumer 
6 = Chance Hymas 

Fastest lap of the moto 

1 = Julien Beaumer
1 = Jo Shimoda 

Pole in practice 

1 = Chance Hymas 

Holeshot 

1 = Chance Hymas 
1 = Tom Vialle

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5/24/2025 9:33pm
971_Fan wrote:

I'm going out on a limb here and saying Jett will go 1-1. 

Well you were right ha ha. How 7 people can dislike your comment is laughable!

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5/24/2025 9:43pm
tuttle425 wrote:
I like Jett but I really hope we're not in for a holeshot and 10 second win summer from him.  It's just so boring.However, this is...

I like Jett but I really hope we're not in for a holeshot and 10 second win summer from him.  It's just so boring.

However, this is easily Jett's best track and probably Eli's worst so we'll see what happens in a week or two.

Chase...yeesh, that was not the way to start the series.  Can't really imagine what could have happened in one lap to make him toss his goggles. 

Cooper was impressive. 

Hunter, meh.  Not great but not remotely bad.

I think it's pretty clear who are the lead group; Jett, Hunter, Tomac, Cooper, Sexton (if he's okay).  We'll see if Prado can turn it up throughout the season.  Clearly no one else is going to have anything for the lead guys unless something really silly happens.

Oh well, one moto down, 21 to go.

“I think it's pretty clear who are the lead group; Jett, Hunter, Tomac, Cooper, Sexton”

What did you see from Sexton to determine he’s clearly in the “lead group”?

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5/24/2025 10:01pm

Just finished 250 moto1...tracks looks great but ffs can some please bring in some trees..

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5/24/2025 10:31pm
Fastest laps of the races 250 moto 1 2.18.740 = Julien Beaumer2.19.483 = Chance Hymas 2.19.808 = Garrett Marchbanks 2.20.087 = Haiden Deegan 2.20.408 = Seth Hammaker 2.20.751 = Ty Masterpool 2.21.054 =...

Fastest laps of the races 

250 moto 1 

2.18.740 = Julien Beaumer
2.19.483 = Chance Hymas 
2.19.808 = Garrett Marchbanks 
2.20.087 = Haiden Deegan 
2.20.408 = Seth Hammaker 
2.20.751 = Ty Masterpool 
2.21.054 = Tom Vialle
2.21.229 = Jo Shimoda 
2.22.053 = Casey Cochran
2.22.614 = Michael Mosiman 

450 moto 1 

2.19.185 = Jett Lawrence 
2.20.033 = Justin Cooper 
2.20.292 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.20.594 = Eli Tomac 
2.21.265 = Aaron Plessinger 
2.21.376 = Chase Sexton 
2.21.745 = Cooper Webb
2.21.784 = RJ Hampshire 
2.23.766 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.24.419 = Joey Savatgy 

250 moto 2 

2.19.931 = Jo Shimoda 
2.20.152 = Chance Hymas
2.20.177 = Haiden Deegan 
2.20.372 = Garrett Marchbanks 
2.20.846 = Julien Beaumer
2.21.166 = Tom Vialle
2.21.775 = Seth Hammaker 
2.21.853 = Ryder Difrancesco 
2.21.965 = Michael Mosiman 
2.22.897 = Maximus Vohland 

450 moto 2 

2.16.736 = Jett Lawrence 
2.17.768 = Eli Tomac 
2.20.313 = Cooper Webb 
2.20.701 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.20.818 = Aaron Plessinger 
2.21.253 = Justin Cooper 
2.21.461 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.21.694 = Jason Anderson 
2.23.092 = Malcolm Stewart 
2.23.350 = RJ Hampshire

Amazing that Deegan's fastest laps each moto were the 4th and 3rd fastest (each moto). yet he clearly dominated each race.

Looks like some pretty smart strategy to me.

Thanks for posting the stats, always interesting to see.

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5/24/2025 11:10pm

I took the top 5 of each motos to combine their fastest sectors and generate their perfect lap time :

250 moto 1 

2.18.440 = Julien Beaumer 
2.18.593 = Chance Hymas
2.18.860 = Haiden Deegan
2.19.452 = Jo Shimoda 
2.20.350 = Tom Vialle 

450 moto 1 

2.17.910 = Jett Lawrence 
2.18.776 = Eli Tomac 
2.18.805 = Justin Cooper
2.19.434= Hunter Lawrence 
2.20.178 = Aaron Plessinger 

250 moto 2 

2.18.812 Haiden Deegan 
2.19.016 = Garrett Marchbanks 
2.19.260 = Jo Shimoda 
2.19.788 = Tom Vialle 
2.19.818 = Julien Beaumer 

450 moto 2 

2.15.311 = Jett Lawrence 
2.16.724 = Eli Tomac 
2.19.301 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.19.590 = Aaron Plessinger 
2.20.355 = Jason Anderson

 

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Fastest laps of the races 250 moto 1 2.18.740 = Julien Beaumer2.19.483 = Chance Hymas 2.19.808 = Garrett Marchbanks 2.20.087 = Haiden Deegan 2.20.408 = Seth Hammaker 2.20.751 = Ty Masterpool 2.21.054 =...

Fastest laps of the races 

250 moto 1 

2.18.740 = Julien Beaumer
2.19.483 = Chance Hymas 
2.19.808 = Garrett Marchbanks 
2.20.087 = Haiden Deegan 
2.20.408 = Seth Hammaker 
2.20.751 = Ty Masterpool 
2.21.054 = Tom Vialle
2.21.229 = Jo Shimoda 
2.22.053 = Casey Cochran
2.22.614 = Michael Mosiman 

450 moto 1 

2.19.185 = Jett Lawrence 
2.20.033 = Justin Cooper 
2.20.292 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.20.594 = Eli Tomac 
2.21.265 = Aaron Plessinger 
2.21.376 = Chase Sexton 
2.21.745 = Cooper Webb
2.21.784 = RJ Hampshire 
2.23.766 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.24.419 = Joey Savatgy 

250 moto 2 

2.19.931 = Jo Shimoda 
2.20.152 = Chance Hymas
2.20.177 = Haiden Deegan 
2.20.372 = Garrett Marchbanks 
2.20.846 = Julien Beaumer
2.21.166 = Tom Vialle
2.21.775 = Seth Hammaker 
2.21.853 = Ryder Difrancesco 
2.21.965 = Michael Mosiman 
2.22.897 = Maximus Vohland 

450 moto 2 

2.16.736 = Jett Lawrence 
2.17.768 = Eli Tomac 
2.20.313 = Cooper Webb 
2.20.701 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.20.818 = Aaron Plessinger 
2.21.253 = Justin Cooper 
2.21.461 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.21.694 = Jason Anderson 
2.23.092 = Malcolm Stewart 
2.23.350 = RJ Hampshire

AZ35 wrote:
Amazing that Deegan's fastest laps each moto were the 4th and 3rd fastest (each moto). yet he clearly dominated each race.Looks like some pretty smart strategy...

Amazing that Deegan's fastest laps each moto were the 4th and 3rd fastest (each moto). yet he clearly dominated each race.

Looks like some pretty smart strategy to me.

Thanks for posting the stats, always interesting to see.

It’s become pretty clear that Deegan doesn’t have to be the fastest, although he often is, because his fitness is superior, which allows him to ramp it up in the second half of the race while the rest of them are fading. 
That makes the start not so critical, and that’s a luxury no one else in the class has. 
His competition needs to lift their game, or it’s going to be a long summer.

Looking forward to what Jo can do though.

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5/25/2025 2:32am

That was pretty much what I expected. I expect the rest of the year to be pretty much the same, except Sexton augering, though I do expect him to again. I also expect Webb to pull out around the halfway point.  I did expect more from Prado. 

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5/25/2025 2:56am

I'll get some ennemies after saying that, and I don't want to discredit Febvre, Coenen, Gajser and the other MXGP riders but watching Jett and Eli's pace yersteday, it is one of the first time that (one side of the ocean or the other) I'm telling myself that those guys looked clearly faster that what we see in MXGP this year.

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5/25/2025 3:11am

Thoughts on JM6’s performance?  Were you expecting this or thought he’d do better or worse?  I like the kid and hope to see more of him.

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From listening to the 450 press conference and some interviews, Eli and Jett seem to be huge fans of each other, both definitely enjoy racing against each other. So glad Eli didn't retire yet and we see two of the best to ever do it through a wole MX season, hopefully Chase will be back aswell.

 

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5/25/2025 10:34am
Mavetism wrote:
From listening to the 450 press conference and some interviews, Eli and Jett seem to be huge fans of each other, both definitely enjoy racing against...

From listening to the 450 press conference and some interviews, Eli and Jett seem to be huge fans of each other, both definitely enjoy racing against each other. So glad Eli didn't retire yet and we see two of the best to ever do it through a wole MX season, hopefully Chase will be back aswell.

 

Yes, nice to see the friendly banter between the Lawrence boys and Eli before their part of the pc took place.

Haiden cracked me up when he said he knew Pala like the back of his head. 😀

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5/25/2025 11:25am
Mavetism wrote:

Some people really said Jett looked bored and over it already? Did they watch how he reacted after he crossed the checkered flag? lol

I thought he looked bored and over after his first moto podium speech. That 2nd moto battle with Tomac seemed to get him back to his happy place lol

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5/25/2025 11:29am

Thoughts on JM6’s performance?  Were you expecting this or thought he’d do better or worse?  I like the kid and hope to see more of him.

Let’s see what he can do with some starts. Pretty sure they were horrible yesterday and he was outside 30th after the first laps of both motos. 

5/25/2025 11:48am
Mavetism wrote:
From listening to the 450 press conference and some interviews, Eli and Jett seem to be huge fans of each other, both definitely enjoy racing against...

From listening to the 450 press conference and some interviews, Eli and Jett seem to be huge fans of each other, both definitely enjoy racing against each other. So glad Eli didn't retire yet and we see two of the best to ever do it through a wole MX season, hopefully Chase will be back aswell.

 

We're blessed and lucky to see an old dog from a previous generation battling with the new generational talent. What a treat. 

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5/25/2025 11:50am

I saw this on FB this morning. Gave me a good chuckle 😄😄 

Screenshot 20250525-083739.png?VersionId=KsMKHkQ3YB6n
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5/25/2025 11:51am

Thoughts on JM6’s performance?  Were you expecting this or thought he’d do better or worse?  I like the kid and hope to see more of him.

ohh_454 wrote:
Let’s see what he can do with some starts. Pretty sure they were horrible yesterday and he was outside 30th after the first laps of both...

Let’s see what he can do with some starts. Pretty sure they were horrible yesterday and he was outside 30th after the first laps of both motos. 

I think starts are going to be huge in the 250 class. Not for Deegan. He can win from anywhere. But the rest of the field seems similar in speed. 

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Jett is obviously insanely fast... every time he's healthy, he's either the fastest guy, or tied for the fastest guy on the track. But what makes him so dominant is the fact that he absolutely nails his starts, and he is the most composed racer I've ever seen. The guy never buckles when someone is pressuring him. He didn't win moto 2 just by purely being fast, because Eli was pushing the same pace. Most riders would've made a mistake or two having Eli breathing down their neck for 25 minutes, but Jett was solid as a rock.

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5/25/2025 1:35pm

Don't feel like combing through posts in this thread, so if it's been mentioned already, my bad.

Is there any rule for or against the team spraying down Chase's machine to cool it down when he pulled into the mechanics area? I know there's been wheel and fuel stops before, but never saw that.

5/25/2025 2:06pm
Don't feel like combing through posts in this thread, so if it's been mentioned already, my bad.Is there any rule for or against the team spraying...

Don't feel like combing through posts in this thread, so if it's been mentioned already, my bad.

Is there any rule for or against the team spraying down Chase's machine to cool it down when he pulled into the mechanics area? I know there's been wheel and fuel stops before, but never saw that.

I would not think there would be. What makes you curious that there would be a rule against it?

5/25/2025 2:09pm

I would not think there would be. What makes you curious that there would be a rule against it?

Mechanical advantage over the bikes still out on the track. Possibility of increasing longevity in extreme heat. Just shooting from the hip since I have never seen a "Pit stop" like that before. 

5/25/2025 3:05pm
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Jett is obviously insanely fast... every time he's healthy, he's either the fastest guy, or tied for the fastest guy on the track. But what makes...

Jett is obviously insanely fast... every time he's healthy, he's either the fastest guy, or tied for the fastest guy on the track. But what makes him so dominant is the fact that he absolutely nails his starts, and he is the most composed racer I've ever seen. The guy never buckles when someone is pressuring him. He didn't win moto 2 just by purely being fast, because Eli was pushing the same pace. Most riders would've made a mistake or two having Eli breathing down their neck for 25 minutes, but Jett was solid as a rock.

His ability to ride within himself is so impressive too. The maturity he displays. He could have put 30sec on JCoop the first moto, I'd imagine. But he didn't need to so he won by 5sec. Then Eli pushed him 2nd moto so he turned it up and they gapped by the field. It's a pleasure to watch his skill. Unreal

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I would not think there would be. What makes you curious that there would be a rule against it?

Mechanical advantage over the bikes still out on the track. Possibility of increasing longevity in extreme heat. Just shooting from the hip since I have never...

Mechanical advantage over the bikes still out on the track. Possibility of increasing longevity in extreme heat. Just shooting from the hip since I have never seen a "Pit stop" like that before. 

I doubt there’s any advantage to pulling off mid race when everyone is still circulating.

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Key Highlights

112 Days: Just 112 days after tearing his ACL, Jett Lawrence returned and tore up the field. Fastest lap in both motos. In Moto 2, even Beast Mode couldn’t break him. His top lap was a full second faster than Tomac’s best.

Strong Start: The last time Eli Tomac opened a Pro Motocross season with a runner-up finish, he won six overalls on his way to the 2019 title. This year’s start was just as sharp. He posted a class-best 10-lap consistency of 94.6 in Moto 1.

450 Analysis

We came into the opening round of the 2025 Pro Motocross season with a list of burning questions. Where would the returning stars, Jett and Hunter Lawrence, Eli Tomac, and Jorge Prado, fit into the mix? How would Chase Sexton handle the pressure of defending his 2024 MX title? And would we finally get the long-awaited Jett vs. Tomac showdown?

Well… most of those questions got answered, but we probably left Fox Raceway with more new questions than we brought in. So let’s dive into everything that went down at Pala.

Track Breakdown:

The track maps above highlights which rider had the fastest average sector time in each moto. Here's what the numbers revealed: Jett Lawrence is superhuman. Just 112 days after tearing his ACL, he not only went 1-1, but he dominated both motos.

Each race showed a different side of the reigning champ. In Moto 1, Jett was fastest in 4 of the 5 sectors. Nobody even came close. Moto 2 brought pressure from Tomac, but Jett held strong and was fastest in 3 of the 5 sectors. He managed the race like a seasoned vet, and we might be in for a full season of fireworks between him and Tomac.

Chase Sexton unfortunately missed basically the entire day after a goggle mishap and an awkward crash in the opening minutes of Moto 1, we hope he returns and adds even more chaos next week in Hangtown. But starting 50 points down is not where Sexton wanted to be.

Unlike Supercross, where features like the whoops can separate riders quickly, Motocross doesn’t really have that one element to blow a race wide open. No one is doing a perfect lap here, its all about managing 30 minutes + 2 laps effectively. But with only five timing sectors spread across a two-and-a-half-minute lap, its difficult to say which part of the track was the hardest. Each section is equally grueling. Simply put, MX is brutal. (FYI: Hangtown is calling for 100 degree+ temps next Saturday).

450 Moto 1:

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450 Moto 2:

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Lap Time Breakdown:

The histogram above tells a clear story, Moto 2 was faster than Moto 1. The median lap time in the second moto was about a second quicker, largely thanks to the relentless pace set by Jett and Tomac. The two of them put nearly 30 seconds on Plessinger and Hunter, and were regularly clocking times 3 to 4 seconds faster than anyone else in the field.

There were 14 laps in Moto 1, here is who set the most fast laps:

-J. Lawrence: 11
-Tomac: 3
-Cooper: 1

Moto 1 Consistency:

-Class Average: 81.1
-Class Median: 89.9

Moto 2 went one lap longer thanks to the leader's pace, totaling 15 laps. Here's who clocked the most fast laps:

-J. Lawrence: 9
-Tomac: 6
-A. Plessinger: 1

Moto 2 Consistency:

-Class Average: 70.7
-Class Median: 87.1

450 Moto 1 Analysis

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Rider's sorted by median lap time.

Top Performances:

We’ve got to give a proper shoutout to Justin Cooper. We knew he'd be solid heading into Outdoors after a strong Supercross season, but this debut was still impressive. While he never really threatened Jett, he kept him honest to make it interesting. That said, Cooper vanished in Moto 2.

LITPro 10-Lap Consistency:

Tomac was locked in the entire weekend. His 94.6 consistency score in Moto 1 was the best of the day and proof that he’s still got top-tier fitness. Over a 30-minute race, that kind of consistency is no joke. When the Consistency Challenge kicks off in June, we’ll show how these numbers compare to the global leaderboard.

Lap 99 Analysis:

Moto 1 wasn't nearly as fast as Moto 2. Perhaps it was track conditions, but even theoretical lap times weren't that quick. Both Jett and Tomac's best times in Moto 2 outpaced their theoretical best from Moto 1. Practically unheard of.

450 Moto 2 Analysis

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Rider's sorted by median lap time.

Top Performances:

If Moto 2 was any preview for the rest of the season, then buckle up. Jett answered just about every question and immediately sparked the "undefeated season?" debates across Moto Twitter. While that feels like a stretch, Jett was nearly half a second per lap quicker than Tomac on average. He knew exactly when and where to push, managed his weaker sectors smartly, and took full advantage of his strengths.

But don’t ignore Tomac's side of the story. These were the only two riders to dip into the 2:17s and 2:16s. Outdoors, that kind of pace difference is a lot closer than we think.

LITPro 10-Lap Consistency:

At that level of speed, we expect consistency to dip a bit, but Tomac still nearly cracked 90. Absolutely elite. And props go out to Plessinger here. His 96.1 was the best of Moto 2, and he earned it while locked in a battle with Hunter Lawrence, who also threw down a crazy consistent 94.4.

Lap 99 Analysis:

Perfection isn’t the goal, but Lap 99 shows us what’s possible. Jett’s best theoretical lap was nearly a second and a half faster than Tomac’s. That tells us one thing, Jett still has more speed in the tank. But the small mistakes he made throughout the race show that he was smart to manage the gap rather than try to run away with it early.

Final Thoughts:

We came in wondering. We left wanting more.

Sexton’s status is still a mystery. Prado was quiet. Cooper showed flashes. And Tomac vs. Jett might be the rivalry we knew we needed. More of this, please.

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