Mirtl unloads on Jett Lawrence...

5/20/2025 10:58am
Brosho wrote:
Oh and my name is Craig. Not Andy.  Back in the 80s not many black guys rode motocross (except at Ascot raceway 😂) here in Los...

Oh and my name is Craig. Not Andy.  Back in the 80s not many black guys rode motocross (except at Ascot raceway 😂) here in Los Angeles. So often times I would be the only black guy at the tracks or on the trails. 

So my white buddies would call me Brosho in reference to Andy also being pretty much the only black guy at the races.  I also have a couple of other black buddies who told me how their white riding friends would also refer to them as Brosho, because of Andy also being a rarity in the sport.  That’s why I have used “Brosho”.  My feelings are mine and not the feeling of Andy in any way.  So I hope no one confronts Andy about my comments here.  It’s also why I don’t post much here anymore.  I tried to change the name a bit to “CraigBrosho” but don’t know how.  

Thanks for posting Craig, I'm glad you are sharing the perspective from a black man who loves and rides moto.  I hope the feelings you've shared specifically about Jett's N word video will make others here re-think their opinion about whether or not it's a nothing burger.  Most of us here are not black, so it's easy for people to brush it off like no big deal.  However, your opinion just goes to show everyone that the video is definitely offensive to blacks, and it should be dealt with in a professional manner.

Not everyone is going to agree with you about Jett's injury/racism/etc, but I hope everyone can agree that you deserve an apology.

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5/20/2025 11:00am
Brosho wrote:
Now this explains why I recently saw a video of Jett basically saying how he wanted to meet or was a fan of several black actors/artists...

Now this explains why I recently saw a video of Jett basically saying how he wanted to meet or was a fan of several black actors/artists and such.  It just did not feel right. It’s probably their way of trying to say he is not racist.  
Now I wonder even more if actually hurt his knee. I watched the video of him hurting his knee and could not understand how that foot dab hurt his knee.  Maybe someone told him to stay away from the sport for a bit. So maybe the injury was fake? 

Oh and there is no such thing as reverse racism here in America.  Black people do not have the power here in America to be racist.  Prejudice Yes but not Racist. 

LungButter wrote:

You have some serious issues you need to work out with yourself.

Best of luck dawg.

Brosho wrote:

Oh Really “Dawg”? The way you used the word Dawg has a racial overtone   You are proving the point. 

Jesus man, are you the type that everything is evil or “out to get someone”? 

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5/20/2025 11:02am
DonM wrote:

Same.

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Don. You know me. You know I often joke about racial stuff. I love to laugh and make others laugh, even about my skin color. But...

Don. You know me. You know I often joke about racial stuff. I love to laugh and make others laugh, even about my skin color. But this whole situation sucks.  The Lawrence’s should have kept the firing and lawsuit private. Especially knowing this video is out there. 
I would have thought Jett was even more amazing if he had offered an explanation and apology immediately.  
 

DonM wrote:
I'm not that Donn....but I do agree with you that team Lawrence needs to do something other than sit silent waiting for it to go away...it...

I'm not that Donn....but I do agree with you that team Lawrence needs to do something other than sit silent waiting for it to go away...it will be interesting if the media starts asking about his remarks this weekend or if they release a statement prior to.... 

OK Sorry. I guess my name here is not the only confusing one 😂

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5/20/2025 11:02am
Brosho wrote:
Now this explains why I recently saw a video of Jett basically saying how he wanted to meet or was a fan of several black actors/artists...

Now this explains why I recently saw a video of Jett basically saying how he wanted to meet or was a fan of several black actors/artists and such.  It just did not feel right. It’s probably their way of trying to say he is not racist.  
Now I wonder even more if actually hurt his knee. I watched the video of him hurting his knee and could not understand how that foot dab hurt his knee.  Maybe someone told him to stay away from the sport for a bit. So maybe the injury was fake? 

Oh and there is no such thing as reverse racism here in America.  Black people do not have the power here in America to be racist.  Prejudice Yes but not Racist. 

LungButter wrote:

You have some serious issues you need to work out with yourself.

Best of luck dawg.

Brosho wrote:

Oh Really “Dawg”? The way you used the word Dawg has a racial overtone   You are proving the point. 

Y'all N****s are fixxin to get sprayed over some werds

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5/20/2025 11:09am
Brosho wrote:
Oh and my name is Craig. Not Andy.  Back in the 80s not many black guys rode motocross (except at Ascot raceway 😂) here in Los...

Oh and my name is Craig. Not Andy.  Back in the 80s not many black guys rode motocross (except at Ascot raceway 😂) here in Los Angeles. So often times I would be the only black guy at the tracks or on the trails. 

So my white buddies would call me Brosho in reference to Andy also being pretty much the only black guy at the races.  I also have a couple of other black buddies who told me how their white riding friends would also refer to them as Brosho, because of Andy also being a rarity in the sport.  That’s why I have used “Brosho”.  My feelings are mine and not the feeling of Andy in any way.  So I hope no one confronts Andy about my comments here.  It’s also why I don’t post much here anymore.  I tried to change the name a bit to “CraigBrosho” but don’t know how.  

Thanks for posting Craig, I'm glad you are sharing the perspective from a black man who loves and rides moto.  I hope the feelings you've shared...

Thanks for posting Craig, I'm glad you are sharing the perspective from a black man who loves and rides moto.  I hope the feelings you've shared specifically about Jett's N word video will make others here re-think their opinion about whether or not it's a nothing burger.  Most of us here are not black, so it's easy for people to brush it off like no big deal.  However, your opinion just goes to show everyone that the video is definitely offensive to blacks, and it should be dealt with in a professional manner.

Not everyone is going to agree with you about Jett's injury/racism/etc, but I hope everyone can agree that you deserve an apology.

Thanks.  My point about maybe a fake injury is because often times when scandals or drama similar to this comes out on celebs and athletes, their handlers tell them to lay low or stay out of the public’s eye for a while,  that is what my opinion is based on.  None of us really know much of anything except seeing an actual video of Jett using those words. Some here dismiss it due to his age at the time. But I guarantee you if I had done anything either criminal or abusive towards someone else at the age of 14 It would not have simply brushed away as a childish act.  I know for fact.  Because I have seen very harsh sentences towards other black friends who were 14 and younger doing “Childish things”. 

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5/20/2025 11:09am
Brosho wrote:
Now this explains why I recently saw a video of Jett basically saying how he wanted to meet or was a fan of several black actors/artists...

Now this explains why I recently saw a video of Jett basically saying how he wanted to meet or was a fan of several black actors/artists and such.  It just did not feel right. It’s probably their way of trying to say he is not racist.  
Now I wonder even more if actually hurt his knee. I watched the video of him hurting his knee and could not understand how that foot dab hurt his knee.  Maybe someone told him to stay away from the sport for a bit. So maybe the injury was fake? 

Oh and there is no such thing as reverse racism here in America.  Black people do not have the power here in America to be racist.  Prejudice Yes but not Racist. 

Please, I've heard this line before. It's nothing more than trying to excuse black racism towards other races. ANYBODY can be racist.

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5/20/2025 11:11am
Brosho wrote:
Oh and my name is Craig. Not Andy.  Back in the 80s not many black guys rode motocross (except at Ascot raceway 😂) here in Los...

Oh and my name is Craig. Not Andy.  Back in the 80s not many black guys rode motocross (except at Ascot raceway 😂) here in Los Angeles. So often times I would be the only black guy at the tracks or on the trails. 

So my white buddies would call me Brosho in reference to Andy also being pretty much the only black guy at the races.  I also have a couple of other black buddies who told me how their white riding friends would also refer to them as Brosho, because of Andy also being a rarity in the sport.  That’s why I have used “Brosho”.  My feelings are mine and not the feeling of Andy in any way.  So I hope no one confronts Andy about my comments here.  It’s also why I don’t post much here anymore.  I tried to change the name a bit to “CraigBrosho” but don’t know how.  

So your vital name is based off a former, fast, black motocross racer? I don’t think you understand the message you are sending.  You’ve offended me. I think you should issue a public apology.

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5/20/2025 11:11am
LungButter wrote:

You have some serious issues you need to work out with yourself.

Best of luck dawg.

Brosho wrote:

Oh Really “Dawg”? The way you used the word Dawg has a racial overtone   You are proving the point. 

Jesus man, are you the type that everything is evil or “out to get someone”? 

I’m speaking based on American history.  So ask yourself that same question. 

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5/20/2025 11:14am
Brosho wrote:
Thanks.  My point about maybe a fake injury is because often times when scandals or drama similar to this comes out on celebs and athletes, their...

Thanks.  My point about maybe a fake injury is because often times when scandals or drama similar to this comes out on celebs and athletes, their handlers tell them to lay low or stay out of the public’s eye for a while,  that is what my opinion is based on.  None of us really know much of anything except seeing an actual video of Jett using those words. Some here dismiss it due to his age at the time. But I guarantee you if I had done anything either criminal or abusive towards someone else at the age of 14 It would not have simply brushed away as a childish act.  I know for fact.  Because I have seen very harsh sentences towards other black friends who were 14 and younger doing “Childish things”. 

I’ve seen harsh things happen to friends of mine too. Odd thing is, the color of their skin varies.  Sorry that you feel like everything is a race issue, but your fake injury take, shows you wear a tinfoil hat.  

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"My point about maybe a fake injury is because often times when scandals or drama similar to this comes out on celebs and athletes, their handlers tell them to lay low or stay out of the public’s eye for a while,  that is what my opinion is based on."

I bet HRC would love that.

Sorry, mates. I said something potentially harmful when I was a kid, so I'm taking the last 15 races off of the biggest Moto stage, to let things cool a bit.

Yeah, I don't think so

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5/20/2025 11:22am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2025 11:23am
Brosho wrote:

Oh Really “Dawg”? The way you used the word Dawg has a racial overtone   You are proving the point. 

Jesus man, are you the type that everything is evil or “out to get someone”? 

Brosho wrote:

I’m speaking based on American history.  So ask yourself that same question. 

You meant to say “your own skewed perception of American History.”  

How come you didnt name yourself after a white motocross racer? It’s because you cant stand to look at white people.  I heard you ride dirt bikes because you can only be around white people with helmets on, as to hide their true identity.  I heard you eat chocolate cake because you’re so against the white cake.  Your hatred for all things white is showing through.  You even throw out the egg whites when you make eggs!!  Even though your eggs are scrambled.

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5/20/2025 11:25am
Brosho wrote:
Now this explains why I recently saw a video of Jett basically saying how he wanted to meet or was a fan of several black actors/artists...

Now this explains why I recently saw a video of Jett basically saying how he wanted to meet or was a fan of several black actors/artists and such.  It just did not feel right. It’s probably their way of trying to say he is not racist.  
Now I wonder even more if actually hurt his knee. I watched the video of him hurting his knee and could not understand how that foot dab hurt his knee.  Maybe someone told him to stay away from the sport for a bit. So maybe the injury was fake? 

Oh and there is no such thing as reverse racism here in America.  Black people do not have the power here in America to be racist.  Prejudice Yes but not Racist. 

Do your own actual research and don't listen to the "news" and what they told you racism is. It has nothing to do with "power" over...

Do your own actual research and don't listen to the "news" and what they told you racism is. It has nothing to do with "power" over anyone, that is a straight up lie to completely undermine thae actual issue.

Racism is prejudice because of race, period. End of story. You can be prejudiced and not racist, but you can't be racist and not prejudiced...it's just the further definition when it's based only on race. So yes, ANY nationality can be racist against any other nationality. Stop trying to make anyone other than the minority feel like they are the problem even if they aren't racist in the slightest bit.

"Reverse racism" isn't a thing. It's either racism or it's not. Doesn't matter what color you are. 

 

Brosho wrote:
You are absolutely wrong about it’s definition.  Especially it’s definition here in America.  The word Racism here in America involves a lot of power and control...

You are absolutely wrong about it’s definition.  Especially it’s definition here in America.  The word Racism here in America involves a lot of power and control of people by race.  It’s not just “Pre Judgement” of others. 

Here's the thing, what I said doesn't minimize racism against black people AT ALL, yet because of the things I cited, ANYTHING I say that doesn't align with the current contrived narrative immediately makes me a target. Clearly. 

You now think I'm racist, or I'm minimizing racism or the disgusting and embarrassing history of it in this country. I'm not. I'm merely stating the facts. I don't pretend to know what it's like to be a black guy, in the current or past cultural times, but I can state the facts.

 

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5/20/2025 11:26am

Jesus man, are you the type that everything is evil or “out to get someone”? 

Brosho wrote:

I’m speaking based on American history.  So ask yourself that same question. 

JTno$ wrote:
You meant to say “your own skewed perception of American History.”  How come you didnt name yourself after a white motocross racer? It’s because you cant...

You meant to say “your own skewed perception of American History.”  

How come you didnt name yourself after a white motocross racer? It’s because you cant stand to look at white people.  I heard you ride dirt bikes because you can only be around white people with helmets on, as to hide their true identity.  I heard you eat chocolate cake because you’re so against the white cake.  Your hatred for all things white is showing through.  You even throw out the egg whites when you make eggs!!  Even though your eggs are scrambled.

And THIS is why I can't make a legitimate statement and be taken seriously or just at my word. Because of clowns like you. 

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And THIS is why I can't make a legitimate statement and be taken seriously or just at my word. Because of clowns like you. 

I’m a clown? Didn’t realize we ever met. 

Btw, I don’t take you seriously because you go by Nathaniel.

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You fellas gonna ride this rotten thread all the way down?

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Brosho wrote:

I’m speaking based on American history.  So ask yourself that same question. 

JTno$ wrote:
You meant to say “your own skewed perception of American History.”  How come you didnt name yourself after a white motocross racer? It’s because you cant...

You meant to say “your own skewed perception of American History.”  

How come you didnt name yourself after a white motocross racer? It’s because you cant stand to look at white people.  I heard you ride dirt bikes because you can only be around white people with helmets on, as to hide their true identity.  I heard you eat chocolate cake because you’re so against the white cake.  Your hatred for all things white is showing through.  You even throw out the egg whites when you make eggs!!  Even though your eggs are scrambled.

And THIS is why I can't make a legitimate statement and be taken seriously or just at my word. Because of clowns like you. 

Question for ya, Nathaniel? Why is calling someone “special” any better than what Jett did? Maybe you should apologize after Brosho.


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5/20/2025 11:40am
JTno$ wrote:
You meant to say “your own skewed perception of American History.”  How come you didnt name yourself after a white motocross racer? It’s because you cant...

You meant to say “your own skewed perception of American History.”  

How come you didnt name yourself after a white motocross racer? It’s because you cant stand to look at white people.  I heard you ride dirt bikes because you can only be around white people with helmets on, as to hide their true identity.  I heard you eat chocolate cake because you’re so against the white cake.  Your hatred for all things white is showing through.  You even throw out the egg whites when you make eggs!!  Even though your eggs are scrambled.

And THIS is why I can't make a legitimate statement and be taken seriously or just at my word. Because of clowns like you. 

JTno$ wrote:
Question for ya, Nathaniel? Why is calling someone “special” any better than what Jett did? Maybe you should apologize after Brosho.

Question for ya, Nathaniel? Why is calling someone “special” any better than what Jett did? Maybe you should apologize after Brosho.


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Ah, so saying "special attention" is now the same as saying someone is special needs? Got it. You're trolling worked, good job lol

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You think that stuff with him meeting  and hanging with RodMan was all for optics ?   Never really thought of it like that.I thought it was...

You think that stuff with him meeting  and hanging with RodMan was all for optics ?   

Never really thought of it like that.

I thought it was pretty neat...Dennis even followed the sport. 

Good to see you posting again and hope you are doing well. 

He didn’t follow the sport, Lucas paid him to show up

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The dude was the agent of the biggest name in the sport and he absolutely fucked it. A one in a million opportunity and he throws...

The dude was the agent of the biggest name in the sport and he absolutely fucked it. A one in a million opportunity and he throws it away. It's honestly embarrassing to see him desperately trying to bring Jett down after he ruined his own career. Having this footage on hand tells every single professional rider that if he becomes your agent he will be actively gathering dirt to blackmail you. 

Coenen,s beware.

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Ah, so saying "special attention" is now the same as saying someone is special needs? Got it. You're trolling worked, good job lol

Don’t try to deflect now.  Im using the same logic as Brosho.  

My actual point is, people say things in jest. They can be taken in a multitude of ways. Words can be twisted. Just because you’re bothered doesn’t mean everyone is, or vice versa.  Everything is not black and white. See today’s definition of genders for proof.

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5/20/2025 11:45am
JTno$ wrote:
You meant to say “your own skewed perception of American History.”  How come you didnt name yourself after a white motocross racer? It’s because you cant...

You meant to say “your own skewed perception of American History.”  

How come you didnt name yourself after a white motocross racer? It’s because you cant stand to look at white people.  I heard you ride dirt bikes because you can only be around white people with helmets on, as to hide their true identity.  I heard you eat chocolate cake because you’re so against the white cake.  Your hatred for all things white is showing through.  You even throw out the egg whites when you make eggs!!  Even though your eggs are scrambled.

What's "skewed?"

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What's "skewed?"

A "skewed perception" means an interpretation of reality that is distorted, biased, or inaccurate due to various factors like emotions, experiences, or biases.

His account is biased, emotional and based off his personal experiences. 

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5/20/2025 12:04pm
Brosho wrote:
Thanks.  My point about maybe a fake injury is because often times when scandals or drama similar to this comes out on celebs and athletes, their...

Thanks.  My point about maybe a fake injury is because often times when scandals or drama similar to this comes out on celebs and athletes, their handlers tell them to lay low or stay out of the public’s eye for a while,  that is what my opinion is based on.  None of us really know much of anything except seeing an actual video of Jett using those words. Some here dismiss it due to his age at the time. But I guarantee you if I had done anything either criminal or abusive towards someone else at the age of 14 It would not have simply brushed away as a childish act.  I know for fact.  Because I have seen very harsh sentences towards other black friends who were 14 and younger doing “Childish things”. 

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I’ve seen harsh things happen to friends of mine too. Odd thing is, the color of their skin varies.  Sorry that you feel like everything is...

I’ve seen harsh things happen to friends of mine too. Odd thing is, the color of their skin varies.  Sorry that you feel like everything is a race issue, but your fake injury take, shows you wear a tinfoil hat.  

How did you come to the conclusion that I think Everything is a race issue?  When we have all in fact watched video of Jett saying racist words?


Everything is not based on race. But a lot of shit is. Not everything.  

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Oh and my name is Craig. Not Andy.  Back in the 80s not many black guys rode motocross (except at Ascot raceway 😂) here in Los...

Oh and my name is Craig. Not Andy.  Back in the 80s not many black guys rode motocross (except at Ascot raceway 😂) here in Los Angeles. So often times I would be the only black guy at the tracks or on the trails. 

So my white buddies would call me Brosho in reference to Andy also being pretty much the only black guy at the races.  I also have a couple of other black buddies who told me how their white riding friends would also refer to them as Brosho, because of Andy also being a rarity in the sport.  That’s why I have used “Brosho”.  My feelings are mine and not the feeling of Andy in any way.  So I hope no one confronts Andy about my comments here.  It’s also why I don’t post much here anymore.  I tried to change the name a bit to “CraigBrosho” but don’t know how.  

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So your vital name is based off a former, fast, black motocross racer? I don’t think you understand the message you are sending.  You’ve offended me...

So your vital name is based off a former, fast, black motocross racer? I don’t think you understand the message you are sending.  You’ve offended me. I think you should issue a public apology.

😂😂😂.  Just Former?  Andy was and is an amazing racer.  Don’t insult him like that. I bet you he is faster than you.

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What's "skewed?"

JTno$ wrote:
A "skewed perception" means an interpretation of reality that is distorted, biased, or inaccurate due to various factors like emotions, experiences, or biases.His account is biased...

A "skewed perception" means an interpretation of reality that is distorted, biased, or inaccurate due to various factors like emotions, experiences, or biases.

His account is biased, emotional and based off his personal experiences. 

Non responsive; stop speaking in generalities.  What's skewed about Craig's read of America's history of white racism toward people of color and the ability to act on that racism to discriminate from a position of power as the dominant political influence?

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Fucking WOW! 

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Jesus man, are you the type that everything is evil or “out to get someone”? 

Brosho wrote:

I’m speaking based on American history.  So ask yourself that same question. 

JTno$ wrote:
You meant to say “your own skewed perception of American History.”  How come you didnt name yourself after a white motocross racer? It’s because you cant...

You meant to say “your own skewed perception of American History.”  

How come you didnt name yourself after a white motocross racer? It’s because you cant stand to look at white people.  I heard you ride dirt bikes because you can only be around white people with helmets on, as to hide their true identity.  I heard you eat chocolate cake because you’re so against the white cake.  Your hatred for all things white is showing through.  You even throw out the egg whites when you make eggs!!  Even though your eggs are scrambled.

I’m gonna let you Cook. Keep going please. 

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Brosho wrote:
Thanks.  My point about maybe a fake injury is because often times when scandals or drama similar to this comes out on celebs and athletes, their...

Thanks.  My point about maybe a fake injury is because often times when scandals or drama similar to this comes out on celebs and athletes, their handlers tell them to lay low or stay out of the public’s eye for a while,  that is what my opinion is based on.  None of us really know much of anything except seeing an actual video of Jett using those words. Some here dismiss it due to his age at the time. But I guarantee you if I had done anything either criminal or abusive towards someone else at the age of 14 It would not have simply brushed away as a childish act.  I know for fact.  Because I have seen very harsh sentences towards other black friends who were 14 and younger doing “Childish things”. 

So your saying Jett should go play baseball for a couple of years before rejoining the Bulls....eeeerrrrrrr, I mean Team Honder? 🙃

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What's "skewed?"

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A "skewed perception" means an interpretation of reality that is distorted, biased, or inaccurate due to various factors like emotions, experiences, or biases.His account is biased...

A "skewed perception" means an interpretation of reality that is distorted, biased, or inaccurate due to various factors like emotions, experiences, or biases.

His account is biased, emotional and based off his personal experiences. 

Isn’t my experiences enough?

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His read of America’s history is an account of his and his friends’ experiences. His examples are personal and based off his feelings. 

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