Southwick Observations

hasko158
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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 5:05pm
The Southwick National reminded me why I have not been there except to race in the last 8 years. You can't see more than 3-4 sections/corners! The racing was so good, but you can't see much of the track from any given spot. Anyway, here is what I saw and heard from MX338.

The Pits:

- Waited in line at Will Call for almost an hour. Dowd and Henry had their own lines for passes.
- Team Arma (aka JLaw) was glad he was not racing as they did not have to deal with the "drama". He was in California doing something else. Regal did not want to pit with the rig as he did not wanted to be associated with JLaw.
- Saw Taka prepping and washing JLaws bike and asked if he was racing, he said "umm no way". I said why you working on it, he said "maybe he race next week". And then rolled his eyes and laughed. He took some time to just b.s. with me and is super cool.
- Look for Arma to be huge in racing next year and there will no longer be a team JLaw.
- With riders joining teams for their first national, woman riders, and some coming from Europe, the rigs were jam packed with riders.
- Wonder Warthog had a great set-up as usual with a lot of riders. Love what they do for the sport, too bad not too many qualified.
- The local pro's with Dowdy parked with them had a huge following and presence in the pits.
- Davi Millsaps and Sebastian Torteilli were on hand. Also saw Langstons bike in a truck but I did not spot him. Davi is recovering well and anxious to race.
- Ryan Mills was riding his bicycle around rapping to himself, pretty funny stuff. Glad to see him back out there.
- Did not see Henry, but his bike was on hand. That thing is pretty sick!
- No Josh Grant? Hadn't heard anything about that.

The Racing:

- They should allow 2 free practices to get the track roughed up. First session is like a highway and I could run a 2:10 as a B rider!! Even Short couldnt get a top 40 time out of the 2nd session!

- 450 Class: I really thought Metcalfe finally had it. Felt terrible for him as he has been so great and tried so hard all year. It was a great race though as Dungy stayed about 3 bike lengths most of the moto and could not gain. Moto Concepts team has got to be happy this year. Chisolm had fastest qualifying time and then pulled a 4th overall with Goerke getting 3rd his first race back! Dowdy did not do as well as people expected, I even predicted a 6-7, but he just did not look up for it. Still for 45, he is the man! Why do some bikes run out of gas? Oh, and they were all Honda's. Robby Marshal put in an awesome first moto, running with Windham for a while and finishing 9th in moto one. Moto 2 proved to be inconsistent from the 1st. Hahn, Regal, Dowd, just to name a few.

- 250 Class: I was rooting for Will Hahn in moto 1 but I could see Canard was reeling him in. Will rode awesome but got sucked up by Canard and a flying Rattray. Rattrays fiance had their first baby at 7:30am Sunday, what a way to celebrate!! Barcia was flying all day but got a bad start in moto 1. His battle with Wilson to the finish in moto 1 was exciting and he just edged him out. Pourcel looked like he was conserving energy as he just didn't look like he was pushing very hard. Jimmy Decotis had a lot of hype leading up to it, as he is a local and rode well at Unadilla. But bad starts looked to plague him.

Overall the racing was close and exciting, but not sure I will go back there to watch anytime soon. The 3 hour ride to Unadilla is far more worth it even though I am only an hour from Southwick.
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Matt Wozney
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8/29/2010 10:12am
I heard Henry was walking around on crutches at Southwick. The guy never ceases to amaze me. Wish I saw him and talked it up.
hasko158
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8/29/2010 10:14am
Really? Wow, I am with ya Matt!
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8/29/2010 1:22pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2010 1:26pm
hasko158 wrote:
The Southwick National reminded me why I have not been there except to race in the last 8 years. You can't see more than 3-4 sections/corners...
The Southwick National reminded me why I have not been there except to race in the last 8 years. You can't see more than 3-4 sections/corners! The racing was so good, but you can't see much of the track from any given spot. Anyway, here is what I saw and heard from MX338.

The Pits:

- Waited in line at Will Call for almost an hour. Dowd and Henry had their own lines for passes.
- Team Arma (aka JLaw) was glad he was not racing as they did not have to deal with the "drama". He was in California doing something else. Regal did not want to pit with the rig as he did not wanted to be associated with JLaw.
- Saw Taka prepping and washing JLaws bike and asked if he was racing, he said "umm no way". I said why you working on it, he said "maybe he race next week". And then rolled his eyes and laughed. He took some time to just b.s. with me and is super cool.
- Look for Arma to be huge in racing next year and there will no longer be a team JLaw.
- With riders joining teams for their first national, woman riders, and some coming from Europe, the rigs were jam packed with riders.
- Wonder Warthog had a great set-up as usual with a lot of riders. Love what they do for the sport, too bad not too many qualified.
- The local pro's with Dowdy parked with them had a huge following and presence in the pits.
- Davi Millsaps and Sebastian Torteilli were on hand. Also saw Langstons bike in a truck but I did not spot him. Davi is recovering well and anxious to race.
- Ryan Mills was riding his bicycle around rapping to himself, pretty funny stuff. Glad to see him back out there.
- Did not see Henry, but his bike was on hand. That thing is pretty sick!
- No Josh Grant? Hadn't heard anything about that.

The Racing:

- They should allow 2 free practices to get the track roughed up. First session is like a highway and I could run a 2:10 as a B rider!! Even Short couldnt get a top 40 time out of the 2nd session!

- 450 Class: I really thought Metcalfe finally had it. Felt terrible for him as he has been so great and tried so hard all year. It was a great race though as Dungy stayed about 3 bike lengths most of the moto and could not gain. Moto Concepts team has got to be happy this year. Chisolm had fastest qualifying time and then pulled a 4th overall with Goerke getting 3rd his first race back! Dowdy did not do as well as people expected, I even predicted a 6-7, but he just did not look up for it. Still for 45, he is the man! Why do some bikes run out of gas? Oh, and they were all Honda's. Robby Marshal put in an awesome first moto, running with Windham for a while and finishing 9th in moto one. Moto 2 proved to be inconsistent from the 1st. Hahn, Regal, Dowd, just to name a few.

- 250 Class: I was rooting for Will Hahn in moto 1 but I could see Canard was reeling him in. Will rode awesome but got sucked up by Canard and a flying Rattray. Rattrays fiance had their first baby at 7:30am Sunday, what a way to celebrate!! Barcia was flying all day but got a bad start in moto 1. His battle with Wilson to the finish in moto 1 was exciting and he just edged him out. Pourcel looked like he was conserving energy as he just didn't look like he was pushing very hard. Jimmy Decotis had a lot of hype leading up to it, as he is a local and rode well at Unadilla. But bad starts looked to plague him.

Overall the racing was close and exciting, but not sure I will go back there to watch anytime soon. The 3 hour ride to Unadilla is far more worth it even though I am only an hour from Southwick.
Josh Grant crashed hard in the first practice and did not race. As far as Dowd is concerned he would have had much better results i think had it not been for a first turn pileup in the 2nd moto he got invloved in that damaged his bike so bad he had to pull off after only a lap or so.
And yes you had to feel for Metcalfe, so friggin close he could taste his first 450 moto win then disaster.
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8/29/2010 1:42pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2010 1:45pm
Thanks for the race report. We keep hearing the same thing from people attending the events in person. Can't see a fucken thing and won't go back. Does the NPG care if we stop showing up? I spend nearly 10K a year attending 5 Nationals and every year it gets harder and harder to find a vantage point to "feel" the racing in person. Live attendance does not matter any more? If MXSPORTS could get the TV people to film the events so people would understand that it is not 40 guys on a trail ride playing follow the leader I would stop attending the events in person and just watch it on TV.

As it is, the TV coverage makes the sport look easy, boring, and amateur. They focus the cameras on the riders not the track. The track is the primary obstacle last time I checked.

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cdm806
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8/29/2010 1:51pm
Dowd and Henry had their own lines for passes. Man the ladies for them lines had a really rough day at work! At Unadilla the rider I went with was limited to 4 guest passes.
dedi684
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8/29/2010 2:27pm
i know its awesome when you pay a shitload of money to get in and you can only see a bunch of banners. ive been going for over 20 years and missed only 1 national there but i dont think ill go back for a national there.
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8/29/2010 2:27pm
i know its awesome when you pay a shitload of money to get in and you can only see a bunch of banners. ive been going for over 20 years and missed only 1 national there but i dont think ill go back for a national there.
8/29/2010 2:51pm
I love going to that race, probably my favoite. Viewing is the downfall but I always sit at the top of the start stright on the upper side to the right where the fence dips down in between the start straight and the turn after the gully/drop off section coming from the back. Seems to be you can see 75% of the track from there. Barcia was RIPPIN the first few laps of the 2nd moto but then Rattray grabbed a handful of some South African somethin or other and just started reeling him in.....he is a machine but still couldn't complete the pass.Talked to Dowd.....he said he'll be back next year.....he pulled the wires out of the backside of one of the plugs on his bike in the first turn pile up. They tried pushing em back in but didn't work out so well.Don't know how the biggest team in MX manages to not be prepared or a race like the wick and runs out of fuel....I'd be firing alot of employees Monday if I worked for Honda Japan. Was cool to meet SRP33.....Morgan from BristolCore and hang with The Rock and The Beard.....all good dudes....on a side note ....The Beard is an absolute celebrity now LOL....on TV....always posing for pics.....he even had a mini clone in the VIP seating where we were sitting in the 2nd moto. Any word on Izzi? Ambulance came but never carted him off. Swanpoel hauls ass in the sand. Saw GuyB but never got close enough to introduce myself. Talked to Metty and he seemed to still be in good spirits after the race. Also Canard was super pumped again. Turbo
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8/29/2010 4:47pm

Good shtuff Hasko - thanks.
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8/29/2010 5:01pm
I sit at the fence in front of the bleachers (the ones nearest the entrance) had my chair set up by 7:00 am. From there you can see 75% of the track from there and only in the sun until 1 or so. awesome race, but the 450 class did seem light this year.
no RV, bubba, reed, grant, ferry, j-law, milsaps.
Also got to watch history in the making with dungey win the #1 plate, that and excellent weather and many frosty beverages made for a great day
8/29/2010 6:56pm
Thanks for the report. Woke up from the Disturbed Concert the night before and had planned on going to the Wick. Then I remembered how f#@ked up the track has changed with banners and blown up Lucas Bottles blocking most of the view from the fans and decided to ride the road bike instead. Loved Unadilla this year and loved Southwick 3-5 years ago. Would have gone to the Wick in a heartbeat a couple years ago but I can't torture myself with the new changes.
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8/29/2010 7:49pm
Great report, If I may add an observation I made.
On a sadder note.
Running back to my fold out chair, after taking a leak, I passed the handicapped wheelchair viewing area, There were more people there than I'd ever seen before. Knowing that most were former riders, it put a little gloom in my day.
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8/29/2010 8:29pm
What's up with the 6 ft high fence all the way around the track? And I got a warning for cheering on my man Johnny 140! I wasn't allowed to wave a Toyota towel had been given on vendors row? I could see if my cheers were fueled by jameson and Guinness , It was harmless. I was informed it's against the rules.It's not easy being a spectator st southwick
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8/30/2010 11:02am
I can't believe how smooth the track was! That track is rougher on a amateur day when practice ends! I saw them bulldozing again on the corners and straights and couldn't believe it!!


Henry was walking and had a huge section on the straight away filled with friends and family. He was having a great time and smiling ear to ear!
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8/30/2010 11:23am
Sonny wrote:
Great report, If I may add an observation I made. [b]On a sadder note.[/b] Running back to my fold out chair, after taking a leak, I...
Great report, If I may add an observation I made.
On a sadder note.
Running back to my fold out chair, after taking a leak, I passed the handicapped wheelchair viewing area, There were more people there than I'd ever seen before. Knowing that most were former riders, it put a little gloom in my day.
god that sucks!
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8/30/2010 11:32am
TheBeard wrote:
What's up with the 6 ft high fence all the way around the track? And I got a warning for cheering on my man Johnny 140...
What's up with the 6 ft high fence all the way around the track? And I got a warning for cheering on my man Johnny 140! I wasn't allowed to wave a Toyota towel had been given on vendors row? I could see if my cheers were fueled by jameson and Guinness , It was harmless. I was informed it's against the rules.It's not easy being a spectator st southwick
WTF? A warning for cheering and waving a towel? Was Southwick moved to Iran or something?
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8/30/2010 11:33am
Gotta get there early and claim a spot up high in the main bleachers, can see lots from there. Otherwise, I'll agree, not the best place to spectate from especially if you like to walk around and watch from different places...
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8/31/2010 6:26am
Interesting stuff.
I'd just like to add being this was my first foray with the new qualifying system.
The timed qualifying "sucks"
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8/31/2010 6:54am
Anyone know why Lawrence was in Ca. and not at the race - Probation related?

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