'Liberation Day' tariff announcements

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soggy wrote:
Huh? I don’t get this comment.  I think it would be beneficial for all of us to take a step back. Try and take yourself out of...

Huh? I don’t get this comment. 
 

I think it would be beneficial for all of us to take a step back. Try and take yourself out of the situation and look at things from the 30k view. Forrest for the trees and all that. 

Like the ME comment. Yea things were calm and peaceful in the ME for thousands of years of years before Joe 🙄. 

The wars that started on his watch?  I thought the right wanted to try and stay out of other countries conflicts?

Sure Ukraine/ Russia war started and yes we’ve sent them a boat load of money but Russia is the bad actor here and supporting Ukraine is the right thing to do. The level of that support however is debatable.  Current admin trying to blame Ukraine for the war is bonkers. 

The transgender thing may be the most overblown story line of them all. Do I think transitioned females should compete against biological ones? No I don’t think so but we are talking about high school and college sports(for the most part) and a pretty small number of people when looking at the total number of participants. 

 

Well, this comes from reports that Jasmine Crockett alleged that she was touched/approached/“unwarranted advance” in a girl’s “changing” room by a trans. The details sound a little sketchy at this point (hard to believe what she says). She goes on to mention that it caused her problems affecting her mental state. She alleged that through this she was politically misled to accept “differing grants…which were unverified” that led to her current FEC investigation.

 

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soggy wrote:
Huh? I don’t get this comment.  I think it would be beneficial for all of us to take a step back. Try and take yourself out of...

Huh? I don’t get this comment. 
 

I think it would be beneficial for all of us to take a step back. Try and take yourself out of the situation and look at things from the 30k view. Forrest for the trees and all that. 

Like the ME comment. Yea things were calm and peaceful in the ME for thousands of years of years before Joe 🙄. 

The wars that started on his watch?  I thought the right wanted to try and stay out of other countries conflicts?

Sure Ukraine/ Russia war started and yes we’ve sent them a boat load of money but Russia is the bad actor here and supporting Ukraine is the right thing to do. The level of that support however is debatable.  Current admin trying to blame Ukraine for the war is bonkers. 

The transgender thing may be the most overblown story line of them all. Do I think transitioned females should compete against biological ones? No I don’t think so but we are talking about high school and college sports(for the most part) and a pretty small number of people when looking at the total number of participants. 

 

burn1986 wrote:
Well, this comes from reports that Jasmine Crockett alleged that she was touched/approached/“unwarranted advance” in a girl’s “changing” room by a trans. The details sound a...

Well, this comes from reports that Jasmine Crockett alleged that she was touched/approached/“unwarranted advance” in a girl’s “changing” room by a trans. The details sound a little sketchy at this point (hard to believe what she says). She goes on to mention that it caused her problems affecting her mental state. She alleged that through this she was politically misled to accept “differing grants…which were unverified” that led to her current FEC investigation.

 

Sounds like a nothing burger. Still don’t understand why I was tagged. 

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He’s lying . China has not called. Even though Trump blinked and eliminated electronics tariffs and now he is blinking again and backtracking on the percentage of the tariffs … still no call …  meanwhile China is signing all kinds of trade deals in Asia. Canada and South American countries working on deals with Europe. Stocks , bonds and US dollar all dropped at the same time … perfectly normal right? 

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He’s lying . China has not called. Even though Trump blinked and eliminated electronics tariffs and now he is blinking again and backtracking on the percentage...

He’s lying . China has not called. Even though Trump blinked and eliminated electronics tariffs and now he is blinking again and backtracking on the percentage of the tariffs … still no call …  meanwhile China is signing all kinds of trade deals in Asia. Canada and South American countries working on deals with Europe. Stocks , bonds and US dollar all dropped at the same time … perfectly normal right? 

And yet, he’s the only one to ever do something like this…

“Yeah, but why can’t we just leave alone and do nothing?” 

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eddie wrote:
He’s lying . China has not called. Even though Trump blinked and eliminated electronics tariffs and now he is blinking again and backtracking on the percentage...

He’s lying . China has not called. Even though Trump blinked and eliminated electronics tariffs and now he is blinking again and backtracking on the percentage of the tariffs … still no call …  meanwhile China is signing all kinds of trade deals in Asia. Canada and South American countries working on deals with Europe. Stocks , bonds and US dollar all dropped at the same time … perfectly normal right? 

burn1986 wrote:

And yet, he’s the only one to ever do something like this…

“Yeah, but why can’t we just leave alone and do nothing?” 

He’s doing a hell of a good job at accelerating the BRICs agenda. 👍

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4/25/2025 12:03pm Edited Date/Time 4/25/2025 1:51pm
burn1986 wrote:

And yet, he’s the only one to ever do something like this…

“Yeah, but why can’t we just leave alone and do nothing?” 

I never said that so don’t try to put words in my mouth.

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4/25/2025 12:10pm Edited Date/Time 4/25/2025 12:11pm
eddie wrote:

I never said that so don’t try to put words in my mouth.

What? That’s a little over the top. I’m not putting words in your mouth. I was just joking a little. Trump is actually doing something to help America and as soon as he does something, everyone criticizes it. 

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And yet, he’s the only one to ever do something like this…

“Yeah, but why can’t we just leave alone and do nothing?” 

Him being the first to do something stupid is your best argument?

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4/25/2025 12:26pm Edited Date/Time 4/25/2025 12:26pm
eddie wrote:
He’s lying . China has not called. Even though Trump blinked and eliminated electronics tariffs and now he is blinking again and backtracking on the percentage...

He’s lying . China has not called. Even though Trump blinked and eliminated electronics tariffs and now he is blinking again and backtracking on the percentage of the tariffs … still no call …  meanwhile China is signing all kinds of trade deals in Asia. Canada and South American countries working on deals with Europe. Stocks , bonds and US dollar all dropped at the same time … perfectly normal right? 

Got a friend visiting the White house Sunday through Thursday. I'll ask him to see if his ex co-worker have any info on if the call happened or not. But that being said more times than not when trump said something happened weve found out once all the screaming and crying over it happened like trump said.

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He’s actually doing SOMETHING.

Who, in the last four years did ANYTHING?

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burn1986 wrote:

He’s actually doing SOMETHING.

Who, in the last four years did ANYTHING?

We get it, you don't like Biden but try and set aside your BDS for a while.  You need to understand doing something stupid that fucks your own country as well as makes trouble for the rest of us is not a good plan. 

You Can't Make This Shit Up™

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He’s actually doing SOMETHING.

Who, in the last four years did ANYTHING?

Becoming Commies is not the way to Make America Great Again.

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4/25/2025 12:53pm Edited Date/Time 4/25/2025 12:54pm
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Becoming Commies is not the way to Make America Great Again.

What?

 

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4/25/2025 12:58pm Edited Date/Time 4/25/2025 1:03pm
mx617 wrote:
We get it, you don't like Biden but try and set aside your BDS for a while.  You need to understand doing something stupid that fucks...

We get it, you don't like Biden but try and set aside your BDS for a while.  You need to understand doing something stupid that fucks your own country as well as makes trouble for the rest of us is not a good plan. 

You Can't Make This Shit Up™

So what’s the alternative? I think you would agree that the last administration not only did nothing, but this administration is having to clean up all the  the last administration caused. How is  and trying to bring manufacturing to the US a bad thing? Especially for the long-term? I guess trying to take care of the national debt and bring some prosperity to America is a bad thing? How can you love what the past administration did?

How can you tell a media outlet is lying and only out for their interest? Because they spread fear and panic. Now, I wonder if we can name any of the networks today that are spreading fear and panic?

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So what’s the alternative? I think you would agree that the last administration not only did nothing, but this administration is having to clean up all...

So what’s the alternative? I think you would agree that the last administration not only did nothing, but this administration is having to clean up all the  the last administration caused. How is  and trying to bring manufacturing to the US a bad thing? Especially for the long-term? I guess trying to take care of the national debt and bring some prosperity to America is a bad thing? How can you love what the past administration did?

How can you tell a media outlet is lying and only out for their interest? Because they spread fear and panic. Now, I wonder if we can name any of the networks today that are spreading fear and panic?

None of those things require blanket tariffs based on made up figures that directly ruins US relations with most every country in the world. 

Whats an alternative?  Oh I don't know, maybe incentivize investment in the US, negotiate with countries you want a new agreement with (believe it or not, trumps phone dials out as well), and if you get reallly excited about it maybe a targeted tariff or two.  There's far better ways to achieve onshoring manufacturing. 

 

BTW, I'm really impressed at how effective the Biden administration was in completely annihilating US manufacturing in just four short years. The only thing I can't figure out is if all those jobs disappeared in four short years, why is unemployment so low and why was the stock market up so much? /s

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burn1986 wrote:
So what’s the alternative? I think you would agree that the last administration not only did nothing, but this administration is having to clean up all...

So what’s the alternative? I think you would agree that the last administration not only did nothing, but this administration is having to clean up all the  the last administration caused. How is  and trying to bring manufacturing to the US a bad thing? Especially for the long-term? I guess trying to take care of the national debt and bring some prosperity to America is a bad thing? How can you love what the past administration did?

How can you tell a media outlet is lying and only out for their interest? Because they spread fear and panic. Now, I wonder if we can name any of the networks today that are spreading fear and panic?

A good start would be to stop providing tax incentives for companies to offshore jobs. Congress needs to finally pass that.

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4/25/2025 1:23pm Edited Date/Time 4/25/2025 1:24pm
mx617 wrote:
None of those things require blanket tariffs based on made up figures that directly ruins US relations with most every country in the world. Whats an alternative...

None of those things require blanket tariffs based on made up figures that directly ruins US relations with most every country in the world. 

Whats an alternative?  Oh I don't know, maybe incentivize investment in the US, negotiate with countries you want a new agreement with (believe it or not, trumps phone dials out as well), and if you get reallly excited about it maybe a targeted tariff or two.  There's far better ways to achieve onshoring manufacturing. 

 

BTW, I'm really impressed at how effective the Biden administration was in completely annihilating US manufacturing in just four short years. The only thing I can't figure out is if all those jobs disappeared in four short years, why is unemployment so low and why was the stock market up so much? /s

Well, in regard to tariffs, politicians and lawmakers on both sides (mainly Democrat) have talked about doing this for a long time.

I can’t even bring words to say at how amazingly delusional someone would be to say “Biden and Harris did a great job.”

It’s like seeing someone standing out in the rain and telling them to come in out of it. Then they argue that it’s not raining. In fact, they will get experts to bring stats and charts to show that it’s not raining. Then they will get more experts to intelligently explain why coming inside is a bad idea. All the while the person you’re telling to come in is getting soaked. But they refuse to come in. Meanwhile all the experts that told them that it’s not raining are laughing as they go to their own shelter out of the rain.

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4/25/2025 1:33pm Edited Date/Time 4/25/2025 1:34pm
mx617 wrote:
We get it, you don't like Biden but try and set aside your BDS for a while.  You need to understand doing something stupid that fucks...

We get it, you don't like Biden but try and set aside your BDS for a while.  You need to understand doing something stupid that fucks your own country as well as makes trouble for the rest of us is not a good plan. 

You Can't Make This Shit Up™

burn1986 wrote:
So what’s the alternative? I think you would agree that the last administration not only did nothing, but this administration is having to clean up all...

So what’s the alternative? I think you would agree that the last administration not only did nothing, but this administration is having to clean up all the  the last administration caused. How is  and trying to bring manufacturing to the US a bad thing? Especially for the long-term? I guess trying to take care of the national debt and bring some prosperity to America is a bad thing? How can you love what the past administration did?

How can you tell a media outlet is lying and only out for their interest? Because they spread fear and panic. Now, I wonder if we can name any of the networks today that are spreading fear and panic?

Not a fan of the last administration, but it’s false to state they did nothing.  The tax programs they put out under the IRA had all of the projects we are planning to build using 100% Domestic Content, and 100% Union or prevailing wage labor.  The companies that manufacture steel and aluminum products were already planning on bringing plants back to the US in an organized manner.  

The current administration has not released any plan whatsoever, industry is trying to react as quickly as possible but getting projects financed is increasingly difficult with the lack of foresight available into what commodities will cost. On again off again tariffs effect projects in the future significantly more than the stock market or the mills.  Risking the employment of blue collar workers.  

I have lost faith that this administration actually can accomplish what we hoped they could when we voted for them.  

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One thing I’ve noticed while browsing the now 36 pages is that no MAGA person is actually defending these tariffs (the topic of the thread). It’s just talk about Biden or some other topic. Even they know it’s stupid, but just can’t yet bring themselves to publicly admit it.

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burn1986 wrote:

And yet, he’s the only one to ever do something like this…

“Yeah, but why can’t we just leave alone and do nothing?” 

eddie wrote:

I never said that so don’t try to put words in my mouth.

Drinking while posting?

Or are you just angry?

Maybe you just need a 

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Not a fan of the last administration, but it’s false to state they did nothing.  The tax programs they put out under the IRA had all...

Not a fan of the last administration, but it’s false to state they did nothing.  The tax programs they put out under the IRA had all of the projects we are planning to build using 100% Domestic Content, and 100% Union or prevailing wage labor.  The companies that manufacture steel and aluminum products were already planning on bringing plants back to the US in an organized manner.  

The current administration has not released any plan whatsoever, industry is trying to react as quickly as possible but getting projects financed is increasingly difficult with the lack of foresight available into what commodities will cost. On again off again tariffs effect projects in the future significantly more than the stock market or the mills.  Risking the employment of blue collar workers.  

I have lost faith that this administration actually can accomplish what we hoped they could when we voted for them.  

I hear what you’re saying. I think Trump is trying to set things right. And there’s some uncertainty. No one has taken on China or any of the world. It’s been talked about for years (that someone needed to do something) but everyone was scared. 

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4/25/2025 2:15pm
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I never said that so don’t try to put words in my mouth.

burn1986 wrote:
What? That’s a little over the top. I’m not putting words in your mouth. I was just joking a little. Trump is actually doing something to...

What? That’s a little over the top. I’m not putting words in your mouth. I was just joking a little. Trump is actually doing something to help America and as soon as he does something, everyone criticizes it. 

Those people are a tad touchy nowadays. LOL

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What will happen if the tariffs succeed? What will happen if Trump succeeds in getting manufacturing here in the US?

Keep in mind, he’s only been in less than 5 months. There’s already investors coming and many countries have already reached a trade deal. 

Of course, the legacy media: Fox cnn msnbc cbs abc Reuters bbc guardian etc all want him to fail (so, they create fear and panic).

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4/25/2025 2:21pm
One thing I’ve noticed while browsing the now 36 pages is that no MAGA person is actually defending these tariffs (the topic of the thread). It’s...

One thing I’ve noticed while browsing the now 36 pages is that no MAGA person is actually defending these tariffs (the topic of the thread). It’s just talk about Biden or some other topic. Even they know it’s stupid, but just can’t yet bring themselves to publicly admit it.

WTF? 36 pages and that is what you think?

Vitards will Vitard...

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mx617 wrote:
We get it, you don't like Biden but try and set aside your BDS for a while.  You need to understand doing something stupid that fucks...

We get it, you don't like Biden but try and set aside your BDS for a while.  You need to understand doing something stupid that fucks your own country as well as makes trouble for the rest of us is not a good plan. 

You Can't Make This Shit Up™

burn1986 wrote:
So what’s the alternative? I think you would agree that the last administration not only did nothing, but this administration is having to clean up all...

So what’s the alternative? I think you would agree that the last administration not only did nothing, but this administration is having to clean up all the  the last administration caused. How is  and trying to bring manufacturing to the US a bad thing? Especially for the long-term? I guess trying to take care of the national debt and bring some prosperity to America is a bad thing? How can you love what the past administration did?

How can you tell a media outlet is lying and only out for their interest? Because they spread fear and panic. Now, I wonder if we can name any of the networks today that are spreading fear and panic?

Name a country that there primary contributor to their economy is manufacturing?


Now name a country that is that and you want to be like?

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What will happen if the tariffs succeed? What will happen if Trump succeeds in getting manufacturing here in the US?Keep in mind, he’s only been in...

What will happen if the tariffs succeed? What will happen if Trump succeeds in getting manufacturing here in the US?

Keep in mind, he’s only been in less than 5 months. There’s already investors coming and many countries have already reached a trade deal. 

Of course, the legacy media: Fox cnn msnbc cbs abc Reuters bbc guardian etc all want him to fail (so, they create fear and panic).

Fox has turned on Trump?

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Name a country that there primary contributor to their economy is manufacturing?


Now name a country that is that and you want to be like?

Well, manufacturing our own stuff will be a good thing imo. Why is it so bad to not be dependent on all these other countries? Also, why is it so bad to generate money for the US? Why is it so bad to try and start paying down the national debt? 

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