Been trying to figure out a way to describe some of the posts about James...

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I love the "educated" comments about Stewart bringing distraction due to his entourage, LOL! Some people must never go to races or really be narrow-mind to the extreme, not seeing what they don't want to. Have they even seen RD's entourage, RC's entourage? JS7 doesn't have more people around him than those other two.

I never understood the lynching of riders on here but Stewart has always had it good. Here again he wins compared to the others, even Jason Lawrence is getting less bashed, insulted and pointing the finger at than Stewart. There are some obvious reasons why, that include jealousy but not only.
Strangely, the only time he had the most supporter on the forum is when he was fighting that "foreigner" from Down Under for an SX title.

I guess it's just that the forum is the easiest way to express our frustrations and upsets with daily life, the economical crisis screwing with our way of life, the wife banging the neighbor, our MX skills decreasing as our age and beer-belly increase and those dope-smoking younger guys ridiculing us at the local jump-less track, that black muslim jewish nazi president that's screwing with our future, and on and on and on.

Don't call Dr. Phil, just go lynch on James Stewart and others on a moto forum. You'll have a better day. I just don't understand why they keep on posting about it then.... maybe it doesn't work making you feel better... or it's addictive. Smile
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8/18/2010 6:42am
GuyB wrote:
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You...
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You guys are scouring for in anything in what James or the team says that you can pounce on, or just plain fabricate stuff, and make enough of a smokescreen that you hope something sticks. Oh, and there's a boatload of attention-whoring going on in the posts. You know...the kind of stuff that you guys frequently accuse him of.

James has been very consistent in what he's said. He got tired. He didn't think it was safe to continue. Personally, I think he was sort of stuck. Sure, he wanted to get back to racing, and also wanted to get a shot at making Team USA. BUT...when the team was announced before the start of racing, it took away some motivation to lay it all on the line.

And you can practice all you want, but recreating the intensity, pace and roughness of a National is tough to do during training. And yes, Aldon was there. I'm sure they'll make adjustments, and be better at Southwick.

Personally, I think the team has been really consistent in what they said after the race, both in PRs and verbally. Matthes said the same.
oh no, I think those are very smart business decision Wink I think you don't even need to give a "Vital discount" to get them moving. No need to bring them on Sponsorhouse.com Silly
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8/18/2010 6:51am
GuyB wrote:
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You...
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You guys are scouring for in anything in what James or the team says that you can pounce on, or just plain fabricate stuff, and make enough of a smokescreen that you hope something sticks. Oh, and there's a boatload of attention-whoring going on in the posts. You know...the kind of stuff that you guys frequently accuse him of.

James has been very consistent in what he's said. He got tired. He didn't think it was safe to continue. Personally, I think he was sort of stuck. Sure, he wanted to get back to racing, and also wanted to get a shot at making Team USA. BUT...when the team was announced before the start of racing, it took away some motivation to lay it all on the line.

And you can practice all you want, but recreating the intensity, pace and roughness of a National is tough to do during training. And yes, Aldon was there. I'm sure they'll make adjustments, and be better at Southwick.

Personally, I think the team has been really consistent in what they said after the race, both in PRs and verbally. Matthes said the same.
"A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You guys are scouring for in anything in what James or the team says that you can pounce on, or just plain fabricate stuff, and make enough of a smokescreen that you hope something sticks."

fast foward 6 sentences later......

"Personally, I think he was sort of stuck. Sure, he wanted to get back to racing, and also wanted to get a shot at making Team USA. BUT...when the team was announced before the start of racing, it took away some motivation to lay it all on the line. "

Hard to resist, isn't it GuyB?

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8/18/2010 6:58am
GuyB wrote:
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You...
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You guys are scouring for in anything in what James or the team says that you can pounce on, or just plain fabricate stuff, and make enough of a smokescreen that you hope something sticks. Oh, and there's a boatload of attention-whoring going on in the posts. You know...the kind of stuff that you guys frequently accuse him of.

James has been very consistent in what he's said. He got tired. He didn't think it was safe to continue. Personally, I think he was sort of stuck. Sure, he wanted to get back to racing, and also wanted to get a shot at making Team USA. BUT...when the team was announced before the start of racing, it took away some motivation to lay it all on the line.

And you can practice all you want, but recreating the intensity, pace and roughness of a National is tough to do during training. And yes, Aldon was there. I'm sure they'll make adjustments, and be better at Southwick.

Personally, I think the team has been really consistent in what they said after the race, both in PRs and verbally. Matthes said the same.
As much as I hate all the ignorance and redundancy on display in 90% of the Stewart posts are we not taking ourselves a bit too seriously here? This is a message board a place where ignorance has a voice conspiracy theories will and do thrive. A place where keyboard jockeys can be a part of something (in their minds) without so much as breaking a sweat.

We will never see any message board filled with wisdom and solid reliable information.

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8/18/2010 7:01am
About ten of my friends drove 6 hours and spent alot of money to see Stewtart race. Then in the second moto after he could not pass Alessi and his ego could not handle it he pulled off right in front of them.

All these guys were Stewtart fans but now they are not.

I love how Bubbles makes this place go crazy.........
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robot870 wrote:
About ten of my friends drove 6 hours and spent alot of money to see Stewtart race. Then in the second moto after he could not...
About ten of my friends drove 6 hours and spent alot of money to see Stewtart race. Then in the second moto after he could not pass Alessi and his ego could not handle it he pulled off right in front of them.

All these guys were Stewtart fans but now they are not.

I love how Bubbles makes this place go crazy.........
There you go.
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Shenzi wrote:
I love the "educated" comments about Stewart bringing distraction due to his entourage, LOL! Some people must never go to races or really be narrow-mind to...
I love the "educated" comments about Stewart bringing distraction due to his entourage, LOL! Some people must never go to races or really be narrow-mind to the extreme, not seeing what they don't want to. Have they even seen RD's entourage, RC's entourage? JS7 doesn't have more people around him than those other two.

I never understood the lynching of riders on here but Stewart has always had it good. Here again he wins compared to the others, even Jason Lawrence is getting less bashed, insulted and pointing the finger at than Stewart. There are some obvious reasons why, that include jealousy but not only.
Strangely, the only time he had the most supporter on the forum is when he was fighting that "foreigner" from Down Under for an SX title.

I guess it's just that the forum is the easiest way to express our frustrations and upsets with daily life, the economical crisis screwing with our way of life, the wife banging the neighbor, our MX skills decreasing as our age and beer-belly increase and those dope-smoking younger guys ridiculing us at the local jump-less track, that black muslim jewish nazi president that's screwing with our future, and on and on and on.

Don't call Dr. Phil, just go lynch on James Stewart and others on a moto forum. You'll have a better day. I just don't understand why they keep on posting about it then.... maybe it doesn't work making you feel better... or it's addictive. Smile
RC and Dungey bring reality show production crews with them wherever they go? I had no idea. What channel are their shows on?
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8/18/2010 7:32am
Nice rant, Shenzi. I agree 100%.
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8/18/2010 9:18am
GuyB wrote:
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You...
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You guys are scouring for in anything in what James or the team says that you can pounce on, or just plain fabricate stuff, and make enough of a smokescreen that you hope something sticks. Oh, and there's a boatload of attention-whoring going on in the posts. You know...the kind of stuff that you guys frequently accuse him of.

James has been very consistent in what he's said. He got tired. He didn't think it was safe to continue. Personally, I think he was sort of stuck. Sure, he wanted to get back to racing, and also wanted to get a shot at making Team USA. BUT...when the team was announced before the start of racing, it took away some motivation to lay it all on the line.

And you can practice all you want, but recreating the intensity, pace and roughness of a National is tough to do during training. And yes, Aldon was there. I'm sure they'll make adjustments, and be better at Southwick.

Personally, I think the team has been really consistent in what they said after the race, both in PRs and verbally. Matthes said the same.
It's as simple as people acting stupid when they think they look clever or smart by being cynical and snarky. It's produced a lot of simply dumb statements in the last couple days.
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It's as simple as people acting stupid when they think they look clever or smart by being cynical and snarky. It's produced a lot of simply...
It's as simple as people acting stupid when they think they look clever or smart by being cynical and snarky. It's produced a lot of simply dumb statements in the last couple days.
Your explanation is a whole lot more concise than mine. Wink
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GuyB wrote:
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You...
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You guys are scouring for in anything in what James or the team says that you can pounce on, or just plain fabricate stuff, and make enough of a smokescreen that you hope something sticks. Oh, and there's a boatload of attention-whoring going on in the posts. You know...the kind of stuff that you guys frequently accuse him of.

James has been very consistent in what he's said. He got tired. He didn't think it was safe to continue. Personally, I think he was sort of stuck. Sure, he wanted to get back to racing, and also wanted to get a shot at making Team USA. BUT...when the team was announced before the start of racing, it took away some motivation to lay it all on the line.

And you can practice all you want, but recreating the intensity, pace and roughness of a National is tough to do during training. And yes, Aldon was there. I'm sure they'll make adjustments, and be better at Southwick.

Personally, I think the team has been really consistent in what they said after the race, both in PRs and verbally. Matthes said the same.
Regarding your first paragraph, you must be new around here.
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GuyB wrote:
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You...
...and I think I've got a handle on it. A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You guys are scouring for in anything in what James or the team says that you can pounce on, or just plain fabricate stuff, and make enough of a smokescreen that you hope something sticks. Oh, and there's a boatload of attention-whoring going on in the posts. You know...the kind of stuff that you guys frequently accuse him of.

James has been very consistent in what he's said. He got tired. He didn't think it was safe to continue. Personally, I think he was sort of stuck. Sure, he wanted to get back to racing, and also wanted to get a shot at making Team USA. BUT...when the team was announced before the start of racing, it took away some motivation to lay it all on the line.

And you can practice all you want, but recreating the intensity, pace and roughness of a National is tough to do during training. And yes, Aldon was there. I'm sure they'll make adjustments, and be better at Southwick.

Personally, I think the team has been really consistent in what they said after the race, both in PRs and verbally. Matthes said the same.
Regarding your first paragraph, you must be new around here.
Yep. I'm a Noob.
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grover738 wrote:
"A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You guys are scouring for in anything in what James...
"A lot of the posts sort of look like the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency meets Johnny Cochrane. You guys are scouring for in anything in what James or the team says that you can pounce on, or just plain fabricate stuff, and make enough of a smokescreen that you hope something sticks."

fast foward 6 sentences later......

"Personally, I think he was sort of stuck. Sure, he wanted to get back to racing, and also wanted to get a shot at making Team USA. BUT...when the team was announced before the start of racing, it took away some motivation to lay it all on the line. "

Hard to resist, isn't it GuyB?

Grover, I did have the advantage of actually being at the race, talking with Larry, etc. I think that makes a difference. Smile
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I like James Stewart and I think he's one of the best riders the sport has ever seen.

He markets himself in a strange way, with reality shows where he himself claims that he's the best on the planet. He is a great champion, but he certainly doesn't have that "aw shucks" demeanor.

Fans like to see characters like that knocked down a peg or two. Happens in every sport. The bandwagon will go the other way when he starts winning again, everyone loves a comeback.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
It wasn't a team event three weeks ago when Decoster knew the L&M team was trying to get ready to go to Unadilla so Stewart could...
It wasn't a team event three weeks ago when Decoster knew the L&M team was trying to get ready to go to Unadilla so Stewart could audition for a spot on a team that Decoster would never let Stewart on? Why was it that Decoster knew what Brooks was planning and didn't bother to cal him and tell him Stewart wasn't coming no matter what?

Maybe the rumors about the dire finances in the Suzuki team are true - apparently, Decoster doesn't have a quarter for a pay phone.
Dude.. if you can find a pay phone, it's two quarters these days... You have to wonder if it was worth 50cents...
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8/18/2010 10:32am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2010 1:37pm
huck wrote:
Was Decoster expected to call all the other AMA pro riders and let them know that they weren't going to make the team?

WhKnuckle wrote:
Yeah - any AMA pro rider who has three outdoor titles, two supercross titles, has a SX only contract with a team that doesn't race the...
Yeah - any AMA pro rider who has three outdoor titles, two supercross titles, has a SX only contract with a team that doesn't race the Nations, has been out for 6 months with an injury, just started riding one month ago and has been known to be trying to get to Unadilla for a MXDN tryout by everyone who even casually follows the sport, and whose team is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to move all their gear from SoCal to Northern New York for that tryout - every AMA pro like that, Roger should call if he's not going to be considered for the team.
jndmx wrote:
But it was for the fans....... Direct quotes from the Transworld interview. [i]To be honest, Donn, the reason I am going to Unadilla to race this...
But it was for the fans.......

Direct quotes from the Transworld interview.
To be honest, Donn, the reason I am going to Unadilla to race this weekend is for the fans. I feel like I owe it to them, and my sponsors, to get out there and get to work out on the track.

To be honest, if I had not gotten hurt and did get to race the whole Supercross series, I probably wouldn’t be doing any Nationals. But since I was injured and have been away from the racetrack for so long, I feel like I owe it to lots of people to get back out there. I told everyone that I would be there, so I will be there.

So if he wouldn't have been out there if not for the injury why is this all of the sudden all about the MXoN?

Drama for a TV show maybe?



I think James just hit the nail on the head.



Whatever the motive, I enjoy watching him race.

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GuyB wrote:
Grover, I did have the advantage of actually being at the race, talking with Larry, etc. I think that makes a difference. Smile
I guess that's true, you got me there.

Did LB tell you that some of James motivation was taken away by the announcement?
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in my occupation, in 23 years, i've missed 3 days of work.

i'm not a quitter, people respect that.


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8/18/2010 11:01am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2010 11:02am
What consistency? In the press release he said he was returning for the fans, team, and sponsors. But then he said he was returning for a...
What consistency? In the press release he said he was returning for the fans, team, and sponsors. But then he said he was returning for a shot at the Des Nations. I'm pretty sure it was all the above but once the des Nations team was announced he pretty much lost all motivation. I bet if he still had a shot at the Des Nations he would've finished that second moto, exhausted or not.

James Stewart doesn't care about anyone but himself. I used to really admire him in his am days and when he first turned pro. The last few years have really shown his true colors though and I'm pretty much disgusted with him these days. He could've done a lot more with the talent he had, instead he wasted it on reality TV shows and MX no shows...

I wish I had half the talent he had/has...
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Consistency? If you read his letter, he's all over the board trying to cover his ass. He's trying to have it all, but he didn't get it, so he's just trying to explain his quitting away. Quitting is certainly NOT about the fans.
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8/18/2010 11:28am
It's funny that so many people bag on James, but he is still the only rider that seems to be able to inject excitement into the sport. I'm guessing that whoever talked to him about the MXoN knew this too.


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8/18/2010 12:14pm
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If I was RDC I wouldn't want to be dealing with the distractions that Stewart brings either. Seeing his performance in the second moto probably just...
If I was RDC I wouldn't want to be dealing with the distractions that Stewart brings either. Seeing his performance in the second moto probably just convinced him that the correct decision had been made. He doesn't need someone throwing a tantrum if something doesn't go his way at the event.

Seeing as it was "all about the fans and sponsors" last week I'm not so sure why Stewie got so upset because his main reason for being there was still the same. Unless...

Didn't Carmichael throw a tantrum when that fuel issue came up? And to think Stewart couldn't run two moto 5 weeks from now is absurd.
8/18/2010 1:21pm
CR250Rider wrote:
in my occupation, in 23 years, i've missed 3 days of work.

i'm not a quitter, people respect that.


Thats pretty sad dude. People that you make money FOR might respect that, but do your friends?
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8/18/2010 1:34pm
CR250Rider wrote:
in my occupation, in 23 years, i've missed 3 days of work.

i'm not a quitter, people respect that.


Thats pretty sad dude. People that you make money FOR might respect that, but do your friends?
Max, Max, Max...

Oh, the lost opportunities in this place!

I think the real point to make/question to ask is this:

Yo, CR250Rider-guy, what...EXACTLY...do you do for a "Job" and how the HELL does it campare to flyin' into the 1st trun with 40 other-guys, 100' doubles and 30 minute plus 2 lap Motos?

When's the last time one of your "competitors", at work, CRASHED INTO/WITH YOU AND BUSTED YOU UP?

I'm jus' sayin'...
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CR250Rider wrote:
in my occupation, in 23 years, i've missed 3 days of work.

i'm not a quitter, people respect that.


Thats pretty sad dude. People that you make money FOR might respect that, but do your friends?
TeamGreen wrote:
Max, Max, Max... Oh, the lost opportunities in this place! I think the real point to make/question to ask is this: Yo, CR250Rider-guy, what...EXACTLY...do you do...
Max, Max, Max...

Oh, the lost opportunities in this place!

I think the real point to make/question to ask is this:

Yo, CR250Rider-guy, what...EXACTLY...do you do for a "Job" and how the HELL does it campare to flyin' into the 1st trun with 40 other-guys, 100' doubles and 30 minute plus 2 lap Motos?

When's the last time one of your "competitors", at work, CRASHED INTO/WITH YOU AND BUSTED YOU UP?

I'm jus' sayin'...
It's called commitment...I'm just sayin.
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8/18/2010 2:29pm
Didn't Carmichael throw a tantrum when that fuel issue came up? And to think Stewart couldn't run two moto 5 weeks from now is absurd.
Absurd? He had 7 weeks to get ready for unadilla.
Yet he couldn't do 30+2x2.
Maybe just maybe if he wanted to go to Mxdn so bad,he should have been ready to do 2 full motos.
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It's as simple as people acting stupid when they think they look clever or smart by being cynical and snarky. It's produced a lot of simply...
It's as simple as people acting stupid when they think they look clever or smart by being cynical and snarky. It's produced a lot of simply dumb statements in the last couple days.
GuyB wrote:
Your explanation is a whole lot more concise than mine. Wink
I can sum 99.9% of the posts up in 3 words:

"Wastes of bandwidth"
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It's as simple as people acting stupid when they think they look clever or smart by being cynical and snarky. It's produced a lot of simply...
It's as simple as people acting stupid when they think they look clever or smart by being cynical and snarky. It's produced a lot of simply dumb statements in the last couple days.
GuyB wrote:
Your explanation is a whole lot more concise than mine. Wink
ocscottie wrote:
I can sum 99.9% of the posts up in 3 words:

"Wastes of bandwidth"
But it keeps your site interesting and entertaining
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CR250Rider wrote:
in my occupation, in 23 years, i've missed 3 days of work.

i'm not a quitter, people respect that.


That's UN-Australian....
8/18/2010 6:04pm
CR250Rider wrote:
in my occupation, in 23 years, i've missed 3 days of work.

i'm not a quitter, people respect that.


MCfan4life wrote:
That's UN-Australian....
Thats why I'd love to live there!!
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GuyB wrote:
Grover, I did have the advantage of actually being at the race, talking with Larry, etc. I think that makes a difference. Smile
Next time you have LB's Ear, do some moto journalism and ask him who exactly told him bubba had a shot at team USA... Then go ask that person whats up...There just might be a story there...Wink

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