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8/17/2010 8:26pm
WhKnuckle wrote:
I don't think riders do anything "for the fans". "For the fans" is like "have a nice day". Riders ride for their careers and their bank...
I don't think riders do anything "for the fans". "For the fans" is like "have a nice day". Riders ride for their careers and their bank accounts.
jndmx wrote:
But James said specifically in an interview leading up the Unadilla round that he was going out to be there "for the fans"....he said those exact...
But James said specifically in an interview leading up the Unadilla round that he was going out to be there "for the fans"....he said those exact words.

Are you saying that James was not being truthful but instead being a saleman and trying to stoke interest for his gear sponsors product and reality show?

Wouldn't that be lying just to make money?
gsxrcr28 wrote:
Cant he be racing for numerous reasons? Wanting to for himself. For the fans. For a chance to earn a shot on MXDN Team. For his...
Cant he be racing for numerous reasons?

Wanting to for himself.
For the fans.
For a chance to earn a shot on MXDN Team.
For his sponsors that would like to see him race.
Etc...
Absolutely.....

But WhKnuckle is asserting that this was a waste of $200K for them to show up at the races only to find out that he wasn't going to be on the MXoN team?

That is only one of the possible reasons for being there.

See what I am saying?
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Ozzy wrote:
All the haters please read! Quote: DeCoster’s own words….”All of these riders have good personalities that will let them get along just fine, not try to...
All the haters please read!
Quote: DeCoster’s own words….”All of these riders have good personalities that will let them get along just fine, not try to impress anybody too much and do something stupid,” DeCoster said. “When you race in this event, the fact that you represent your country, a lot of people are going to come up to them and remind them about the history of the team and all the wins and how important it is to keep the thing going. It puts the pressure on, so the main thing for them is to ride within their abilities.”

JS7’s assessment is 100% right on the money.
“The Man” says so himself above, clear as the day is long!
Do the math people….
(No upstaging allowed on the MXoN Bus! In other words, 1 hero allowed)

On Unadilla:
From what I've been told by some high ups that head other major teams, James was in fact fast, very fast. The bike and him became a dangerous issue as things rolled on.
Why risk it, smart if you ask me.
Dave O.Wink

Unless you are a track owner/promoter. Then you're just a lying scumbag.
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8/17/2010 8:28pm Edited Date/Time 8/17/2010 8:29pm
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jndmx wrote:
But James said specifically in an interview leading up the Unadilla round that he was going out to be there "for the fans"....he said those exact...
But James said specifically in an interview leading up the Unadilla round that he was going out to be there "for the fans"....he said those exact words.

Are you saying that James was not being truthful but instead being a saleman and trying to stoke interest for his gear sponsors product and reality show?

Wouldn't that be lying just to make money?
gsxrcr28 wrote:
Cant he be racing for numerous reasons? Wanting to for himself. For the fans. For a chance to earn a shot on MXDN Team. For his...
Cant he be racing for numerous reasons?

Wanting to for himself.
For the fans.
For a chance to earn a shot on MXDN Team.
For his sponsors that would like to see him race.
Etc...
jndmx wrote:
Absolutely..... But WhKnuckle is asserting that this was a waste of $200K for them to show up at the races only to find out that he...
Absolutely.....

But WhKnuckle is asserting that this was a waste of $200K for them to show up at the races only to find out that he wasn't going to be on the MXoN team?

That is only one of the possible reasons for being there.

See what I am saying?
Yep.

I think he was there for a few reasons.

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8/17/2010 8:31pm
gsxrcr28 wrote:
Yep.

I think he was there for a few reasons.
This is the second time today that we have been in agreement.

We gotta knock this off......lol.
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gsxrcr28 wrote:
Yep.

I think he was there for a few reasons.
jndmx wrote:
This is the second time today that we have been in agreement.

We gotta knock this off......lol.
Yep.

Not cool.Wink
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jndmx wrote:
But James said specifically in an interview leading up the Unadilla round that he was going out to be there "for the fans"....he said those exact...
But James said specifically in an interview leading up the Unadilla round that he was going out to be there "for the fans"....he said those exact words.

Are you saying that James was not being truthful but instead being a saleman and trying to stoke interest for his gear sponsors product and reality show?

Wouldn't that be lying just to make money?
gsxrcr28 wrote:
Cant he be racing for numerous reasons? Wanting to for himself. For the fans. For a chance to earn a shot on MXDN Team. For his...
Cant he be racing for numerous reasons?

Wanting to for himself.
For the fans.
For a chance to earn a shot on MXDN Team.
For his sponsors that would like to see him race.
Etc...
jndmx wrote:
Absolutely..... But WhKnuckle is asserting that this was a waste of $200K for them to show up at the races only to find out that he...
Absolutely.....

But WhKnuckle is asserting that this was a waste of $200K for them to show up at the races only to find out that he wasn't going to be on the MXoN team?

That is only one of the possible reasons for being there.

See what I am saying?
Well, how many did they go to last year? And knowing motocross history, if you looked at a list of Nationals and picked the one that Stewart was least likely to want to ride, and Brooks was least likely to want to go to, Unadilla would certainly be the one.

Face facts, everyone in America who knows anything about motocross knew Stewart was going for a shot at the des nations team, if Decoster wasn't going to pick him regardless, all it took was a phone call a couple of weeks ago to fix everything up. Decoster didn't decide on Friday that he wouldn't accept Stewart on the team no matter what. It would be different if it was a team that ordinarily goes to the Nationals, but L&M don't. In fact, they've NEVER gone to a National.
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8/17/2010 8:38pm
So will JS7 be racing the last 3????
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If we all knew a week ago when they would announce the team members... How could they not know? I honestly think DeCoster saw that CRAP...
If we all knew a week ago when they would announce the team members... How could they not know?

I honestly think DeCoster saw that CRAP reality show and wanted nothing to do with it. The MXDN was going to be made about Stewart because of it. He wanted all three riders to feel a part of it and respect it. Not have Sorby clowning the pit area and James throwing a fake dramatic fit or even one of those real ones he throws every now and again for the show. Dungey, Canard and Short will all truly appreciate and respect the event. They will work well as a team.

Something that also got me thinking... If it weren't for the permanent number system... what number would JS be next year? No where near top 20 is the answer. How can a guy race 3 supercross races and 1 moto and then expect to be selected for the MXDN?
Ding...Ding...Ding! We have a winner! Now go back and read DeCoster's comments and see if they don't make sense.

We call Roger "The Man" for a reason, he has proven it time and time again. This is the reason we have him lead us to victory year after year.

And WhKnuckle, I don't buy into the conspiracy, just can't do it.
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So will JS7 be racing the last 3????
doubtful.
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So will JS7 be racing the last 3????
Guyb said Larry told him yes.
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8/17/2010 8:48pm Edited Date/Time 8/17/2010 8:48pm
WhKnuckle wrote:
Well, how many did they go to last year? And knowing motocross history, if you looked at a list of Nationals and picked the one that...
Well, how many did they go to last year? And knowing motocross history, if you looked at a list of Nationals and picked the one that Stewart was least likely to want to ride, and Brooks was least likely to want to go to, Unadilla would certainly be the one.

Face facts, everyone in America who knows anything about motocross knew Stewart was going for a shot at the des nations team, if Decoster wasn't going to pick him regardless, all it took was a phone call a couple of weeks ago to fix everything up. Decoster didn't decide on Friday that he wouldn't accept Stewart on the team no matter what. It would be different if it was a team that ordinarily goes to the Nationals, but L&M don't. In fact, they've NEVER gone to a National.
They did none because James didn't want to (according to the reality show) and L&M is an SX only team.

So let's take the MXoN out of the picture and say that Roger called Larry and said "Hey dude....not gonna happen"

Would it then be acceptable for them to not show up at Dilla or any other outdoor race because "historically" speaking James doesn't like the track?
What about Southwick?
He crashed his brains out there as well so is that now off the schedule for them?

You can't have it both ways.
Either James was doing it for the fans and sponsors with the MXoN being part of it.
or
It was all the same salesmanship that you are slamming the promoters and DeCoster for.
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rc4187 wrote:
If we all knew a week ago when they would announce the team members... How could they not know? I honestly think DeCoster saw that CRAP...
If we all knew a week ago when they would announce the team members... How could they not know?

I honestly think DeCoster saw that CRAP reality show and wanted nothing to do with it. The MXDN was going to be made about Stewart because of it. He wanted all three riders to feel a part of it and respect it. Not have Sorby clowning the pit area and James throwing a fake dramatic fit or even one of those real ones he throws every now and again for the show. Dungey, Canard and Short will all truly appreciate and respect the event. They will work well as a team.

Something that also got me thinking... If it weren't for the permanent number system... what number would JS be next year? No where near top 20 is the answer. How can a guy race 3 supercross races and 1 moto and then expect to be selected for the MXDN?
That's a really good point about the show. It's pretty obvious if you've hung around the Suzuki pits for any length of time that Roger, Goose & Co. are all business. I have a hard time seeing a reality TV crew & Sorby fitting in to a pit area that Roger is in charge of.

As for what Stewart was told, it sounds to me like a classic misunderstanding. I don't think Stewart is lying at all about what he thought he heard during the discussion. But if there is ever an interview with the unnamed official, I doubt it will match what Stewart heard. And unless it was recorded, we'll never know.

My personal guess on what happened, 100% pure speculation:

Stewart thinks he has a shot based on the discussion, so the SM team gets rolling. Early in the week, word leaks that the team has been chosen, but the SM team is already committed, and doesn't want to believe the rumors. They show up, and the team has been picked. Team gets angry, good for the TV show, bad for making decisions. Stewart is mad. Stewart decides to go show 'em what's up by winning, but he hasn't raced MX for too long, never raced MX on the YZF, and understandibly isn't quite in race shape physically. He does everything he can to win or at least get 2nd but can't quite pull it off, ending up 3rd, and amazing ride given the circumstances. Now the overall is unlikely, making him mad and dissappointed, plus he blew his wad on the last few laps.

The lack of MX experince of the team / lack of communication with JS (maybe due to the anger and dissapointment) / lack of racing MX on the YZF result in a bike that is set up even worse in the 2nd moto. Stewart gets a random crappy start that could happen to anyone, charges to 11th, but quickly realizes he is physically spent and on a bike that isn't set up right and that he isn't going anywhere.

I still have no clue why he pulled off. Easier to explain a DNF than a 10th? It may have been the first time in his career that he was looking at a 10th place, knowing that was the best he could do - not a situation he's familiar with.

I don't buy the physical risk part - if you think you're at risk, back it off a hair. If your suspension is too stiff, pull off and have 'em soften it up - that could be done in about 15 seconds, which he could make up in about 5 laps.





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They did none because James didn't want to (according to the reality show) and L&M is an SX only team. So let's take the MXoN out...
They did none because James didn't want to (according to the reality show) and L&M is an SX only team.

So let's take the MXoN out of the picture and say that Roger called Larry and said "Hey dude....not gonna happen"

Would it then be acceptable for them to not show up at Dilla or any other outdoor race because "historically" speaking James doesn't like the track?
What about Southwick?
He crashed his brains out there as well so is that now off the schedule for them?

You can't have it both ways.
Either James was doing it for the fans and sponsors with the MXoN being part of it.
or
It was all the same salesmanship that you are slamming the promoters and DeCoster for.
If Brooks had known the DN was out, I doubt they'd have gone to any before Pala. Why would they? Pala is right in the team's back yard, all the others are on the other end of the earth.

IT COSTS MONEY to send that team from SoCal to New England for a month. Stewart wasn't even physically ready to ride. He hasn't ridden a National in two years. It's money and time - and big, big risk to Stewart.

How often do you see a top pro show up at a local race? Never. Heck, I used to race with Howerton, Wise and Stackable at Rio Bravo, but those days are long gone ("race with" being a figure of speech).

Whatever. Decoster knew what that team was doing and he didn't tell them it was futile for a reason. People can only guess what that reason might have been.
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8/17/2010 9:05pm Edited Date/Time 8/17/2010 9:07pm
WhKnuckle wrote:
If Brooks had known the DN was out, I doubt they'd have gone to any before Pala. Why would they? Pala is right in the team's...
If Brooks had known the DN was out, I doubt they'd have gone to any before Pala. Why would they? Pala is right in the team's back yard, all the others are on the other end of the earth.

IT COSTS MONEY to send that team from SoCal to New England for a month. Stewart wasn't even physically ready to ride. He hasn't ridden a National in two years. It's money and time - and big, big risk to Stewart.

How often do you see a top pro show up at a local race? Never. Heck, I used to race with Howerton, Wise and Stackable at Rio Bravo, but those days are long gone ("race with" being a figure of speech).

Whatever. Decoster knew what that team was doing and he didn't tell them it was futile for a reason. People can only guess what that reason might have been.
Just one thing though... James Stewart is a Supercross / Motocross rider by PROFESSION. The reason companies put money into any program is because either A) there is profit in it for them or B ) They really want to. No one is going to sponsor a team and say "Ah man, we have to go racing too?"



Going to Unadilla gives L&M exposure and that's why they spend the money in the first place. If Stewart would have stayed in the race... he would have given them plenty by being on live network television. Instead the world got to see someone throw a fit and shut the media out... I guess they got a good shot of his dirty bike though.
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Ozzy wrote:
All the haters please read! Quote: DeCoster’s own words….”All of these riders have good personalities that will let them get along just fine, not try to...
All the haters please read!
Quote: DeCoster’s own words….”All of these riders have good personalities that will let them get along just fine, not try to impress anybody too much and do something stupid,” DeCoster said. “When you race in this event, the fact that you represent your country, a lot of people are going to come up to them and remind them about the history of the team and all the wins and how important it is to keep the thing going. It puts the pressure on, so the main thing for them is to ride within their abilities.”

JS7’s assessment is 100% right on the money.
“The Man” says so himself above, clear as the day is long!
Do the math people….
(No upstaging allowed on the MXoN Bus! In other words, 1 hero allowed)

On Unadilla:
From what I've been told by some high ups that head other major teams, James was in fact fast, very fast. The bike and him became a dangerous issue as things rolled on.
Why risk it, smart if you ask me.
Dave O.Wink

"DeCoster said: It puts the pressure on, so the main thing for them is to ride within their abilities."

Does Roger not remember Short cannot handle pressure. Short could have won the West SX titlein'06 but he completely choked at the final round at Seattle by wiping out and throwing the title away (he finished 8th).

James is tied (w/RC) for having the most consistent season in MX history (no one else comes close). I think Stewart is more motivated now than ever before. Look out. James will have 45 seconds a moto on Short from here on out; and 15 seconds ahead of Dungey. And he will punt anyone in his path.
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8/17/2010 9:18pm Edited Date/Time 8/17/2010 9:19pm
WhKnuckle wrote:
If Brooks had known the DN was out, I doubt they'd have gone to any before Pala. Why would they? Pala is right in the team's...
If Brooks had known the DN was out, I doubt they'd have gone to any before Pala. Why would they? Pala is right in the team's back yard, all the others are on the other end of the earth.

IT COSTS MONEY to send that team from SoCal to New England for a month. Stewart wasn't even physically ready to ride. He hasn't ridden a National in two years. It's money and time - and big, big risk to Stewart.

How often do you see a top pro show up at a local race? Never. Heck, I used to race with Howerton, Wise and Stackable at Rio Bravo, but those days are long gone ("race with" being a figure of speech).

Whatever. Decoster knew what that team was doing and he didn't tell them it was futile for a reason. People can only guess what that reason might have been.
If Brooks had known the DN was out, I doubt they'd have gone to any before Pala. Why would they? Pala is right in the team's back yard, all the others are on the other end of the earth.

It was for the fans.....unless you are saying James was lying.

How often do you see a top pro show up at a local race?

Last time I checked Unadilla was a Pro National not a local race.

Whatever. Decoster knew what that team was doing and he didn't tell them it was futile for a reason. People can only guess what that reason might have been.

Because he doesn't owe James or Larry anything.....they were supposedly just there for the chance of being on the team and of course the fans and sponsors.

Would it make any difference if they waited until after the race to make the announcement?
The end result would be the same.

Unless you are now suggesting that James would have thrown caution to the wind and placed himself in further danger by riding out that 2nd moto with the bike set up being way off just for the chance to represent his country.

So again.....which is it?
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Ozzy wrote:
All the haters please read! Quote: DeCoster’s own words….”All of these riders have good personalities that will let them get along just fine, not try to...
All the haters please read!
Quote: DeCoster’s own words….”All of these riders have good personalities that will let them get along just fine, not try to impress anybody too much and do something stupid,” DeCoster said. “When you race in this event, the fact that you represent your country, a lot of people are going to come up to them and remind them about the history of the team and all the wins and how important it is to keep the thing going. It puts the pressure on, so the main thing for them is to ride within their abilities.”

JS7’s assessment is 100% right on the money.
“The Man” says so himself above, clear as the day is long!
Do the math people….
(No upstaging allowed on the MXoN Bus! In other words, 1 hero allowed)

On Unadilla:
From what I've been told by some high ups that head other major teams, James was in fact fast, very fast. The bike and him became a dangerous issue as things rolled on.
Why risk it, smart if you ask me.
Dave O.Wink

helloo wrote:
[b]"DeCoster said: It puts the pressure on, so the main thing for them is to ride within their abilities."[/b] Does Roger not remember Short cannot handle...
"DeCoster said: It puts the pressure on, so the main thing for them is to ride within their abilities."

Does Roger not remember Short cannot handle pressure. Short could have won the West SX titlein'06 but he completely choked at the final round at Seattle by wiping out and throwing the title away (he finished 8th).

James is tied (w/RC) for having the most consistent season in MX history (no one else comes close). I think Stewart is more motivated now than ever before. Look out. James will have 45 seconds a moto on Short from here on out; and 15 seconds ahead of Dungey. And he will punt anyone in his path.
I was thinking the same thing about short. And he even get rattled everytime he gets passed. With the DN being such a pressure cooker, he may do the exact opposite of what most expect.
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Decoster has a higher moto IQ than this entire board combined.

Short has earned his place on the MXdN team with consistently high finishes over the last three years on a 450. His home track advantage and team player mentality seals the deal. James is faster but his injury, his conditioning, his teams lack of outdoor testing and the distractions of a TV show are problematic.
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8/17/2010 9:47pm Edited Date/Time 8/18/2010 7:19am
jndmx wrote:
They did none because James didn't want to (according to the reality show) and L&M is an SX only team. So let's take the MXoN out...
They did none because James didn't want to (according to the reality show) and L&M is an SX only team.

So let's take the MXoN out of the picture and say that Roger called Larry and said "Hey dude....not gonna happen"

Would it then be acceptable for them to not show up at Dilla or any other outdoor race because "historically" speaking James doesn't like the track?
What about Southwick?
He crashed his brains out there as well so is that now off the schedule for them?

You can't have it both ways.
Either James was doing it for the fans and sponsors with the MXoN being part of it.
or
It was all the same salesmanship that you are slamming the promoters and DeCoster for.
WhKnuckle wrote:
If Brooks had known the DN was out, I doubt they'd have gone to any before Pala. Why would they? Pala is right in the team's...
If Brooks had known the DN was out, I doubt they'd have gone to any before Pala. Why would they? Pala is right in the team's back yard, all the others are on the other end of the earth.

IT COSTS MONEY to send that team from SoCal to New England for a month. Stewart wasn't even physically ready to ride. He hasn't ridden a National in two years. It's money and time - and big, big risk to Stewart.

How often do you see a top pro show up at a local race? Never. Heck, I used to race with Howerton, Wise and Stackable at Rio Bravo, but those days are long gone ("race with" being a figure of speech).

Whatever. Decoster knew what that team was doing and he didn't tell them it was futile for a reason. People can only guess what that reason might have been.
Ever heard the phrase it takes money to make money? L&M had a horrific SX season, JSE has a reality show that needs content and SMBI is not happy with the return this year. They needed to spend some of the money they saved by not running the 7 bike all year. It was a good move for L&M.



All the above and L&M needs to do a little recruiting for open spot on the team next year anyway.
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8/17/2010 10:37pm
Quote "gsxrcr28"........

"What the hell do you know?

Its not like you ran a Pro Team or anything. "

Ha,ha,ha.......that's a good 1 right there.
Obviously you don't know me very well if even at all.
1 look in my closet and it's apparent from several team shirts & jackets that I in fact have been...........
Championships & awards as well..........
In other words, if your going to call the kettle black, make sure you first have knowledge of what your talking about.......otherwise as your doing here, you end up standing in it!
"Stay thirsty my friend"........
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Ozzy wrote:
Quote "gsxrcr28"........ "What the hell do you know? Its not like you ran a Pro Team or anything. " Ha,ha,ha.......that's a good 1 right there. Obviously...
Quote "gsxrcr28"........

"What the hell do you know?

Its not like you ran a Pro Team or anything. "

Ha,ha,ha.......that's a good 1 right there.
Obviously you don't know me very well if even at all.
1 look in my closet and it's apparent from several team shirts & jackets that I in fact have been...........
Championships & awards as well..........
In other words, if your going to call the kettle black, make sure you first have knowledge of what your talking about.......otherwise as your doing here, you end up standing in it!
"Stay thirsty my friend"........
Dave O. Kissing
Not sure, but I think he was trying to be sarcastic. Wink
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Ozzy wrote:
Quote "gsxrcr28"........ "What the hell do you know? Its not like you ran a Pro Team or anything. " Ha,ha,ha.......that's a good 1 right there. Obviously...
Quote "gsxrcr28"........

"What the hell do you know?

Its not like you ran a Pro Team or anything. "

Ha,ha,ha.......that's a good 1 right there.
Obviously you don't know me very well if even at all.
1 look in my closet and it's apparent from several team shirts & jackets that I in fact have been...........
Championships & awards as well..........
In other words, if your going to call the kettle black, make sure you first have knowledge of what your talking about.......otherwise as your doing here, you end up standing in it!
"Stay thirsty my friend"........
Dave O. Kissing
It was sarcasm Ozzy.

I am well aware of your accoplishments. Smile
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Stewart was needed before and said "no thanks I haven't raced all year". Now he needs a focus for the show, he expects to turn up at a national unprepared and out of shape and get considered for selection?

It was posted on this board when the team would be announced so why was he so surprised?

Pulling out of the second moto was pretty lame but maybe justified if he was really so out of shape that he couldn't even hold onto the bike, but hiding in the RV afterwards was really childish and I'm surprised the team let him get away with it. Says a lot about the entourage IMO, a bunch of Yes Men I'd imagine.

Kind of strange how last week it was all about the fans and this week it was all about the MXdN. Until you consider the source.
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8/17/2010 10:51pm
Quote: "gsxrcr28"........
"It was sarcasm Ozzy. "

Sarcasm's good!
Was it as good for you as it was for me......ha, ha, ha.....
I still love ya! Kissing
Dave O.Wink


Woohoo REGARDLESS, GO TEAM USA!!! WIN WIN WIN BIG TIME!!!Woohoo
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8/17/2010 10:52pm
I only watched a couple of episodes of Bubbas World, but it will be interesting when the second season comes out to see how they spin all of this and how it all plays out. Then we can revisit this whole topic. I am on the side of the RD not wanting all those cameras around. What if Roger would have said Stewart your our guy but no cameras. What might that have looked like. I mean surely there would have to be something in it for everyone else that would have been involved. Do you think Potter and Sorby received any money for their part in the show?
8/17/2010 11:41pm
gsxrcr28 wrote:
It was sarcasm Ozzy.

I am well aware of your accoplishments. Smile
Hmmm, irony?
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8/18/2010 2:14am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2010 2:15am
James has laid back before at the MXdN instead of making it about him. Why do you think he let Everts beat him?
oldAFI wrote:
He let Everts win just like we all let guys win when we loose. Smile
That was ACTUALLY a time in his career where he did do what decoster was describing....he did that for the team. SO he has surprassed being...
That was ACTUALLY a time in his career where he did do what decoster was describing....he did that for the team. SO he has surprassed being a hero for the sake of the team before.....thanks for reminding me of that.

Still dont think he deserved to go......he got some HEAT from people's comments and there were some very valid points. SX only and that team is destroying his fanbase, true he has a lot of fans they are more becoming people that know him from his show and red bull things ....the probably don't know anything about how good he was on a 125.

Point is he needs to get back to what got him where he is and race or he will become a sideshow that races exhibition races for start money. I think SX only is allowing his to regress a little and his competition to progress a little closing the once amazing gap he had.
Amazes me you guys still believe that Everts only beat Stewart because James backed it down for the team.
Everts schooled him in how to ride a rutted track at Matterley Basin in 2006, stood up on the pegs.
Everts beat him in the first moto, way before any team tactics could be considered.

Did you guys actually watch the race?
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8/18/2010 4:17am
CamP wrote:
Decoster has a higher moto IQ than this entire board combined. Short has earned his place on the MXdN team with consistently high finishes over the...
Decoster has a higher moto IQ than this entire board combined.

Short has earned his place on the MXdN team with consistently high finishes over the last three years on a 450. His home track advantage and team player mentality seals the deal. James is faster but his injury, his conditioning, his teams lack of outdoor testing and the distractions of a TV show are problematic.
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