Time to Say Deegan Is Underwhelming Us In 2025?

2/24/2025 4:44am
Paul333 wrote:
For all the bragging, fake bravado, bullying, social media speculation, industry bantering / ass kissing is it time to say Deegan has been underwhelming so far...

For all the bragging, fake bravado, bullying, social media speculation, industry bantering / ass kissing is it time to say Deegan has been underwhelming so far? My Gosh we had video after video, post after post telling us he is “Rivals’ with the current 450 SX champ….

Yet he isn’t even dominating his regional feeder SX series. Rarely the fastest qualifier, and in track section break downs only fastest in 1 or 2 of the typical 8-10 sections of an SX track. On pure speed alone Joe, JuJu, Smith all seem to have him covered. Not to forget his coast (West) is seriously less stacked than the East, Joe is hurt, and Levi got sick, PC Team pounded with inuries anyway so it could be far worse. Yes he still might win the title but even then it's going down to the last race.......

No offense but he looks like a normal fast 250 regional SX serries guy w/A LOT of Monster Energy sponsorship and marketing. Mind you this is his 3rd full season. He isn’t a rookie anymore, but a series veteran.

 

wow have you been proved wrong

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“It’s only a regional feeder series”


lol. You guys are as bipolar as Deegan is.

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2/24/2025 5:32am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2025 5:33am
Paul333 wrote:
For all the bragging, fake bravado, bullying, social media speculation, industry bantering / ass kissing is it time to say Deegan has been underwhelming so far...

For all the bragging, fake bravado, bullying, social media speculation, industry bantering / ass kissing is it time to say Deegan has been underwhelming so far? My Gosh we had video after video, post after post telling us he is “Rivals’ with the current 450 SX champ….

Yet he isn’t even dominating his regional feeder SX series. Rarely the fastest qualifier, and in track section break downs only fastest in 1 or 2 of the typical 8-10 sections of an SX track. On pure speed alone Joe, JuJu, Smith all seem to have him covered. Not to forget his coast (West) is seriously less stacked than the East, Joe is hurt, and Levi got sick, PC Team pounded with inuries anyway so it could be far worse. Yes he still might win the title but even then it's going down to the last race.......

No offense but he looks like a normal fast 250 regional SX serries guy w/A LOT of Monster Energy sponsorship and marketing. Mind you this is his 3rd full season. He isn’t a rookie anymore, but a series veteran.

 

Swarty89 wrote:

wow have you been proved wrong

How is that?

4/5 to 1st when JuJu, Joe, Smith, Whole PC Team is out in the West series which has 1/2 the number of top riders as the East doesn’t scream dominance to me. 

Congratulations you won, now be humble you are remarkably lucky 


 

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Paul333 wrote:
For all the bragging, fake bravado, bullying, social media speculation, industry bantering / ass kissing is it time to say Deegan has been underwhelming so far...

For all the bragging, fake bravado, bullying, social media speculation, industry bantering / ass kissing is it time to say Deegan has been underwhelming so far? My Gosh we had video after video, post after post telling us he is “Rivals’ with the current 450 SX champ….

Yet he isn’t even dominating his regional feeder SX series. Rarely the fastest qualifier, and in track section break downs only fastest in 1 or 2 of the typical 8-10 sections of an SX track. On pure speed alone Joe, JuJu, Smith all seem to have him covered. Not to forget his coast (West) is seriously less stacked than the East, Joe is hurt, and Levi got sick, PC Team pounded with inuries anyway so it could be far worse. Yes he still might win the title but even then it's going down to the last race.......

No offense but he looks like a normal fast 250 regional SX serries guy w/A LOT of Monster Energy sponsorship and marketing. Mind you this is his 3rd full season. He isn’t a rookie anymore, but a series veteran.

 

Swarty89 wrote:

wow have you been proved wrong

Paul333 wrote:
How is that?4/5 to 1st when JuJu, Joe, Smith, Whole PC Team is out in the West series which has 1/2 the number of top riders...

How is that?

4/5 to 1st when JuJu, Joe, Smith, Whole PC Team is out in the West series which has 1/2 the number of top riders as the East doesn’t scream dominance to me. 

Congratulations you won, now be humble you are remarkably lucky 


 

What will your excuse be when he dog walks the shootout in Indy?

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“It’s only a regional feeder series”


lol. You guys are as bipolar as Deegan is.

LOL


I am not going to waste a lot of time with this, but it is a regional feeder series. 

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I’m not a fan of Deegan. Kids a headache when he talks..

But the kids hands down the fastest in the class. Indoors and outdoors. 
But I do think he races and performs best when he hasnt tried to Be an entertainer and focused on racing. 
Seems to be a trend. Starts smack talking. Has a bad result.. towns it down, performs well and dominates. Smack talks again, crashes the next. 

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Page 9....

DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Good rebound race for Deegan, the real test will be the EW shootout. 

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Magoofan wrote:
Page 9....DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Page 9....

DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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So the same as you in a thread about Jett? Right, right, we know you like Jett. It's just his overzealous fans you don't like. You're the biggest hypocrite on this board and everyone knows it

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2/24/2025 11:06am

Well, Haiden proved he's probably smarter than Sexton. 

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2/24/2025 11:14am
Paul333 wrote:
How is that?4/5 to 1st when JuJu, Joe, Smith, Whole PC Team is out in the West series which has 1/2 the number of top riders...

How is that?

4/5 to 1st when JuJu, Joe, Smith, Whole PC Team is out in the West series which has 1/2 the number of top riders as the East doesn’t scream dominance to me. 

Congratulations you won, now be humble you are remarkably lucky 


 

JuJu was in the race wasn't he?  Is he riding hurt?

Smith was never a factor, it was a given that at some point he'd crash himself out riding over his head trying to keep up.  

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Paul333 wrote:
How is that?4/5 to 1st when JuJu, Joe, Smith, Whole PC Team is out in the West series which has 1/2 the number of top riders...

How is that?

4/5 to 1st when JuJu, Joe, Smith, Whole PC Team is out in the West series which has 1/2 the number of top riders as the East doesn’t scream dominance to me. 

Congratulations you won, now be humble you are remarkably lucky 


 

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JuJu was in the race wasn't he?  Is he riding hurt?Smith was never a factor, it was a given that at some point he'd crash himself...

JuJu was in the race wasn't he?  Is he riding hurt?

Smith was never a factor, it was a given that at some point he'd crash himself out riding over his head trying to keep up.  

Julien popped his shoulder out earlier in the day. 

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2/24/2025 1:23pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2025 1:24pm
So the same as you in a thread about Jett? Right, right, we know you like Jett. It's just his overzealous fans you don't like. You're...

So the same as you in a thread about Jett? Right, right, we know you like Jett. It's just his overzealous fans you don't like. You're the biggest hypocrite on this board and everyone knows it

It's interesting that many of the over-zealous Jett fans seem to make up much of the Haiden Hater Brigade, so Magoofan has a point. 

I like Haiden for many of the same reasons I like Jett. Both are incredibly gifted on a bike.  Both come from vastly different backgrounds and are polar opposites in personality, yet seem to have the same determination to win and drive to be the best.

I couldn't imagine if all the personalities were the same. It's the Bob Hannah's, Mike Healey's, and Jason Lawrence's that add color to the sport. Deegan is just a young brash kid with a lot of confidence, and as much money as daddy has, Haiden still busted his ass to be where he is. Jett, coming from working class parents with not a lot of money, saw the talent and determination in Jett and Hunter, and gambled on the boys. 

Not everyone takes the same path. 

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Can’t wait for the E/W SHOOTOUT (it’ll forever be called that idc what Feld says) 

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It's interesting that many of the over-zealous Jett fans seem to make up much of the Haiden Hater Brigade, so Magoofan has a point. I like Haiden...

It's interesting that many of the over-zealous Jett fans seem to make up much of the Haiden Hater Brigade, so Magoofan has a point. 

I like Haiden for many of the same reasons I like Jett. Both are incredibly gifted on a bike.  Both come from vastly different backgrounds and are polar opposites in personality, yet seem to have the same determination to win and drive to be the best.

I couldn't imagine if all the personalities were the same. It's the Bob Hannah's, Mike Healey's, and Jason Lawrence's that add color to the sport. Deegan is just a young brash kid with a lot of confidence, and as much money as daddy has, Haiden still busted his ass to be where he is. Jett, coming from working class parents with not a lot of money, saw the talent and determination in Jett and Hunter, and gambled on the boys. 

Not everyone takes the same path. 

Bingo.... 

The hilarious part is how the Vital thumbsdowner clown posse keep pushing the narrative that I (and others) hate Jett....nothing could be further from the truth.      They'll keep spreading their bullshit narrative because it's all they've got to come after me with some pathetic personal vendetta. 

When I do post in Jett threads, it's always about the delusional/psychotic fans and the ridiculous fawning media.     The only time I came down on Jett was over the Ando incident....that scorn was deserved. 

Both Jett and Deegan are the future....both are, as you said, gifted and amazing to watch.       I hope there will be others who will compete with them when the old guard retire or it's going to be pretty freaking boring watching the same guys win all the time. 

 

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2/24/2025 2:33pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2025 2:34pm
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Why do you guys dislike that he shit talks? I will GENUINELY never understand it… like do you want more boring riders with no personality? You...

Why do you guys dislike that he shit talks? I will GENUINELY never understand it… like do you want more boring riders with no personality? You guys act like he personally hurts your feelings lol it’s mind boggling really.

If he was boring with no personality the same guys would be complaining that he’s boring with no personality. It’s just the way some people are on vital.. 🤦‍♂️

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2/24/2025 6:44pm

In the stadium…

On Saturday-night…

I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were Stoked as they wore their independently marketed merch and jumped up and down…and cheered. 

Hence, you “out of your F’ING mind haters” are sooooooooooo irrelevant that I just had to stop by & leave this for you as you drop your “internet-idiot that doesn’t and will never get it” stupid 💩 and remind you that…

The Deegans…as a family…as a unit…as a “team”…as racers…that race  at a level that you, you little hateful shitbag, will never…ever…know…well…they are FUELED by your negative energy.

And that’s all I’ve got to say about that. 

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2/24/2025 6:47pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2025 6:48pm
TeamGreen wrote:
In the stadium…On Saturday-night…I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were...

In the stadium…

On Saturday-night…

I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were Stoked as they wore their independently marketed merch and jumped up and down…and cheered. 

Hence, you “out of your F’ING mind haters” are sooooooooooo irrelevant that I just had to stop by & leave this for you as you drop your “internet-idiot that doesn’t and will never get it” stupid 💩 and remind you that…

The Deegans…as a family…as a unit…as a “team”…as racers…that race  at a level that you, you little hateful shitbag, will never…ever…know…well…they are FUELED by your negative energy.

And that’s all I’ve got to say about that. 

They call it the vocal minority. So loud and obnoxious. Weak and soft.

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2/24/2025 7:56pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2025 7:57pm
TeamGreen wrote:
In the stadium…On Saturday-night…I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were...

In the stadium…

On Saturday-night…

I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were Stoked as they wore their independently marketed merch and jumped up and down…and cheered. 

Hence, you “out of your F’ING mind haters” are sooooooooooo irrelevant that I just had to stop by & leave this for you as you drop your “internet-idiot that doesn’t and will never get it” stupid 💩 and remind you that…

The Deegans…as a family…as a unit…as a “team”…as racers…that race  at a level that you, you little hateful shitbag, will never…ever…know…well…they are FUELED by your negative energy.

And that’s all I’ve got to say about that. 

bc Deegs is a living comic book character (do kids still read those?) 

so, what you're saying is, if you're grown and prefer black coffee over sugary fizzy pop, you're a hater. got it Smile



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TeamGreen wrote:
In the stadium…On Saturday-night…I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were...

In the stadium…

On Saturday-night…

I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were Stoked as they wore their independently marketed merch and jumped up and down…and cheered. 

Hence, you “out of your F’ING mind haters” are sooooooooooo irrelevant that I just had to stop by & leave this for you as you drop your “internet-idiot that doesn’t and will never get it” stupid 💩 and remind you that…

The Deegans…as a family…as a unit…as a “team”…as racers…that race  at a level that you, you little hateful shitbag, will never…ever…know…well…they are FUELED by your negative energy.

And that’s all I’ve got to say about that. 

Tyler D wrote:
bc Deegs is a living comic book character (do kids still read those?) so, what you're saying is, if you're grown and prefer black coffee over sugary...

bc Deegs is a living comic book character (do kids still read those?) 

so, what you're saying is, if you're grown and prefer black coffee over sugary fizzy pop, you're a hater. got it Smile



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Bullet-proof coffee every morn; so, that handles the failed analogy. 

Haters are simply defined as the fools that -CONSTANTLY- rant and rave in threads, like this, and are proven to be complete dip-shits all the damn time…and then…when little Deegs smokes the entire field like he did…AGAIN…Saturday-night…almost like it was a National…they can still be found making excuses as they cry about how their Lawrence Experience passes have no value…

And, yet, just like clock-work…the haters are in here proving that they’re never gonna get it.

It’s funny…yet, sad. 

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TeamGreen wrote:
In the stadium…On Saturday-night…I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were...

In the stadium…

On Saturday-night…

I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were Stoked as they wore their independently marketed merch and jumped up and down…and cheered. 

Hence, you “out of your F’ING mind haters” are sooooooooooo irrelevant that I just had to stop by & leave this for you as you drop your “internet-idiot that doesn’t and will never get it” stupid 💩 and remind you that…

The Deegans…as a family…as a unit…as a “team”…as racers…that race  at a level that you, you little hateful shitbag, will never…ever…know…well…they are FUELED by your negative energy.

And that’s all I’ve got to say about that. 

So if I dont agree with past conflicts and the way he acts im a hater? If some little kid likes him that doesn't know any better and I don't im an idiot? I'm a shitbag because I choose not to cheer for him? Its always theyre fuled by the haters. So why is it constantly brought up? Sounds like it bothers both them and the fans. I've never seen a more sensitive group of fans and I've been paying attention since 98. Can't people have their own opinions and people be fine with them without being labeled shitbag, hater, ect?

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971_Fan wrote:
It's interesting that many of the over-zealous Jett fans seem to make up much of the Haiden Hater Brigade, so Magoofan has a point. I like Haiden...

It's interesting that many of the over-zealous Jett fans seem to make up much of the Haiden Hater Brigade, so Magoofan has a point. 

I like Haiden for many of the same reasons I like Jett. Both are incredibly gifted on a bike.  Both come from vastly different backgrounds and are polar opposites in personality, yet seem to have the same determination to win and drive to be the best.

I couldn't imagine if all the personalities were the same. It's the Bob Hannah's, Mike Healey's, and Jason Lawrence's that add color to the sport. Deegan is just a young brash kid with a lot of confidence, and as much money as daddy has, Haiden still busted his ass to be where he is. Jett, coming from working class parents with not a lot of money, saw the talent and determination in Jett and Hunter, and gambled on the boys. 

Not everyone takes the same path. 

Magoofan wrote:
Bingo.... The hilarious part is how the Vital thumbsdowner clown posse keep pushing the narrative that I (and others) hate Jett....nothing could be further from the truth...

Bingo.... 

The hilarious part is how the Vital thumbsdowner clown posse keep pushing the narrative that I (and others) hate Jett....nothing could be further from the truth.      They'll keep spreading their bullshit narrative because it's all they've got to come after me with some pathetic personal vendetta. 

When I do post in Jett threads, it's always about the delusional/psychotic fans and the ridiculous fawning media.     The only time I came down on Jett was over the Ando incident....that scorn was deserved. 

Both Jett and Deegan are the future....both are, as you said, gifted and amazing to watch.       I hope there will be others who will compete with them when the old guard retire or it's going to be pretty freaking boring watching the same guys win all the time. 

 

But you never provide examples of the things your are referencing because largely it’s all made up in your head. Jett is popular and Deegan is popular you’re going to see lots of content on both. 

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TeamGreen wrote:
In the stadium…On Saturday-night…I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were...

In the stadium…

On Saturday-night…

I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were Stoked as they wore their independently marketed merch and jumped up and down…and cheered. 

Hence, you “out of your F’ING mind haters” are sooooooooooo irrelevant that I just had to stop by & leave this for you as you drop your “internet-idiot that doesn’t and will never get it” stupid 💩 and remind you that…

The Deegans…as a family…as a unit…as a “team”…as racers…that race  at a level that you, you little hateful shitbag, will never…ever…know…well…they are FUELED by your negative energy.

And that’s all I’ve got to say about that. 

Farmer J wrote:
So if I dont agree with past conflicts and the way he acts im a hater? If some little kid likes him that doesn't know any...

So if I dont agree with past conflicts and the way he acts im a hater? If some little kid likes him that doesn't know any better and I don't im an idiot? I'm a shitbag because I choose not to cheer for him? Its always theyre fuled by the haters. So why is it constantly brought up? Sounds like it bothers both them and the fans. I've never seen a more sensitive group of fans and I've been paying attention since 98. Can't people have their own opinions and people be fine with them without being labeled shitbag, hater, ect?

Have you paid attention to society in America there last 10 years?

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TeamGreen wrote:
Bullet-proof coffee every morn; so, that handles the failed analogy. Haters are simply defined as the fools that -CONSTANTLY- rant and rave in threads, like this, and...

Bullet-proof coffee every morn; so, that handles the failed analogy. 

Haters are simply defined as the fools that -CONSTANTLY- rant and rave in threads, like this, and are proven to be complete dip-shits all the damn time…and then…when little Deegs smokes the entire field like he did…AGAIN…Saturday-night…almost like it was a National…they can still be found making excuses as they cry about how their Lawrence Experience passes have no value…

And, yet, just like clock-work…the haters are in here proving that they’re never gonna get it.

It’s funny…yet, sad. 

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TeamGreen wrote:
In the stadium…On Saturday-night…I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were...

In the stadium…

On Saturday-night…

I saw soooooo many little kids with “38” stuff on as I sat and watched little Deegs CRUSHING IT…& those little kids were Stoked as they wore their independently marketed merch and jumped up and down…and cheered. 

Hence, you “out of your F’ING mind haters” are sooooooooooo irrelevant that I just had to stop by & leave this for you as you drop your “internet-idiot that doesn’t and will never get it” stupid 💩 and remind you that…

The Deegans…as a family…as a unit…as a “team”…as racers…that race  at a level that you, you little hateful shitbag, will never…ever…know…well…they are FUELED by your negative energy.

And that’s all I’ve got to say about that. 

Now you've done it.....I was hoping for a quiet week regarding Deegs.....

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People are definitely unhinged in here (look above), and it's not the deegan "haters".🤪

As far as riding, Deegan rode strong this weekend, that's for sure.  Also, no looney tunes on the podium. Being so mild mannered up there had me scratching my head.

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seth505 wrote:
People are definitely unhinged in here (look above), and it's not the deegan "haters".🤪As far as riding, Deegan rode strong this weekend, that's for sure.  Also...

People are definitely unhinged in here (look above), and it's not the deegan "haters".🤪

As far as riding, Deegan rode strong this weekend, that's for sure.  Also, no looney tunes on the podium. Being so mild mannered up there had me scratching my head.

One self proclaimed ‘opinionated motherfucker’ who can’t handle others peoples opinions. 

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Shifty eyesSocially awkwardIn ability to fit inIs a part of being on the spectrum,it’s also a direct relation to being home schooled,and not interacting in a...

Shifty eyes

Socially awkward

In ability to fit in

Is a part of being on the spectrum,it’s also a direct relation to being home schooled,and not interacting in a social situation with other people not involved in the mx scene.

Not making excuses for his behaviour,he just needs a large ball gag put in as soon as he takes his helmet off…..

Why are you talking about putting ball gags on teenage boys? You sir, need to be put on a watchlist. Chill down Epstein. 

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