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The youth of today are mostly soft. I was drafted for 3 yrs straight out of school. My generation ( dob 1970) was pretty hard and we fit right in.
It will be a tall order training up today's generation.
Most days I wonder the same thing regarding today's young people. I will say we have a head start on Ukraine for the 18-25 year demographic, with currently half a million on active duty. It would be interesting to see how a WW2 type scenario would play out with our current youth, I have no doubt if it were a Vietnam type scenario the youth of today would be protesting just like they did in the 60's.
I guess they could always go live in Canada and hide for the rest of their life's kind of like some did during Vietnam, but at least they would have free health care.
I think it entirely depends on the war.
An imperialist war of aggression like Iraq vs genuine self defence would have very different responses.
When Rupert Murdoch calls out your president for being a bootlicker
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Some of you should just take a look at the start of this thread and how it’s ending. People are delusional.
I totally agree with the points brought up in the article which are clearly a provocation. And before the invasion, my opinion was that Ukraine should have given themselves only two options, put everything they had into diplomacy, and if that ultimately failed, then give up the bid. I understand they want in the EU to advance their interests, but I have a hard time thinking they couldn't have done that with more effort into monetizing their unique position as a broker between the east and the west. The part where I won't budge is when it comes to weighing those unwise decisions against violating a nation's sovereignty and mass destroying civilian regions and murdering people. Like if a skinhead calls a black guy the n-word and the black guy kicks his ass, I'm going to advise the skinhead that it would be wise to stop saying those things, but ultimately I'm just never going to side with the person that's committed the assault/crime. That's the bottom line for me and I think it's the position which most accurately aligns with classic American ideologies.
Sounds a bit like Vietnam again. Lets get bogged down for a decade and make a right tight mess of it all….where the host country loses bigtime.
Or everyone concede something and we get peace
Edit- bonus…the money laundering stops.
Trumptards love Russia. They want Trump and his team to turn America into Russia. It's already headed that way. Trump and Musk are buying up the media companies, Trump with his platform, and Musk with his. Brainwashing their sheep-like followers through their smart phones. I see stuff posted on this forum that is straight off of Truth Social and X, it's copied and pasted by the lemmings like Team Green, Joey Bridges, etc that just regurgitate the talking points off those right wing propaganda apps. Much of it is word for word copy and paste right from stuff that Musk tweets out at 3am. We're all screwed.
Trump playbook...
- Make crazy promises you know you can't come through on, but you know your base will lap it up and believe every word you say
- Once you figure out you can't come through on said promises, start blaming others for it
He's done this with his "ending the war in 1 day", that's now Ukraine's fault because they started the war and they're run by a dictator.
He hasn't done anything about inflation, even though he said it would be a simple fix. That's now Bidens fault.
If the stock market tanks, he'll blame that on Hillary Clinton.
Then you go back to war. Why not at least try peace?
Musk tweeted this on X. Do you have anything original, or is it all off of the propaganda app?
So, with knowledge of things being copied and, pasted straight off X, you admit you’re casually scrolling through the very same platforms as the people you’re critiquing.
Funny how that works.
Yes I do occasionally check to see what's being posted on there, key difference is I'm not dumb enough to believe anything they post on those platforms. It's propaganda. Musk controls the algorithm on X, Trump on Truth Social. They know what they're doing. Might as well be in Russia sitting on your couch watching State run TV. That's what they want. Think about it.
If you follow someone that has 270 million followers and tweets 50 times a day, you are the DEFINITION of sheep.
With those two being the main social media platforms for many, where is it exactly you’re getting your non biased news sources from?
Isn't it better to see directly what prominent leaders post themselves than to wait for the mainstream media to comment on it? Today we have the power to see deep into the thoughts of anyone who cares to share them, it's better to form an opinion on that source material than second hand commentary.
The discourse on X is terrible it's mostly bots, scammers, and people calling each other retard, but it's still a better primary source of prominent figures than any one other social media site, that's why Musk, the Saudis and other shady assholes bought it.
Your doge meme is in the wrong thread.
Though I agree, I think your first paragraph is aimed at the wrong person.
The first sentence of your second paragraph could be used to describe Vital more often than, not.
I’m not on X, Truth Social or, even Instagram.
In regards to my meme, would you have preferred Beach Volleyball models?
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seems Ukraine will either need to acccept whatever deal is put to them, or see if Europe will step up and help them continue fighting,
if Nato is dead in the water, it will be interesting times for europe,
Wrong pronoun for that one, Chance. He’s more of a grinder guy😉🍆
This whole thread has aged so amazingly well.
I agree with you, but you’re just as deluded as the Trumpets if you can’t acknowledge ALL politicians on BOTH sides of the aisle use that very same playbook.
Trump, Putin, Xi
Oceania, Eurasia, Eastasia
Oh, you've read a book. Apparently you didn't understand it though.
What do you think all this "sphere of influence", Canada 51st state, taking over Greenland, dissolving NATO talk is all about?
If you think it is in any way related to or prophecied by "1984" then you need to read it a LOT slower next time.
You think if the US aligned our foreign policy with Russia and China who are basically already aligned we could rule the world?
The only thing missing is discipline.
Russia and China - aligned?
Really, you believe that?
By the way, we already had the Cold War, and the US and Russia basically did run the world.
But if we joined forces think of the power.
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