I'm not sure Stewart can beat Dungey

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In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart can put a few laps together at Dungey speed or maybe faster but I'm not sure he can hang every lap. Dungey doesn't make mistakes. Not convinced there will be a blue #7 at Unidilla or any of the other 3, you can't come off the couch and be as ready as if you've been racing week in and week out.
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jeffro503 7/24/2010 10:28pm
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RD is an animal for sure! But ( and YES I support Dungey big time )....you have to remember were winning most motos by 30-45 seconds. RD aint quite there yet......but he seems to be getting there.
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Overdrive 7/24/2010 10:30pm
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Well when are we going to get to see JS on the track, will it be next weekend? I thought he was supposed to be out there this weekend. I want to see a good battle.
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BobbyM 7/24/2010 10:34pm
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RandyS wrote:
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart...
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart can put a few laps together at Dungey speed or maybe faster but I'm not sure he can hang every lap. Dungey doesn't make mistakes. Not convinced there will be a blue #7 at Unidilla or any of the other 3, you can't come off the couch and be as ready as if you've been racing week in and week out.
and that's why....they prop the gate up towards the sky and turn the petcocks down to the ground.
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FIREfish148 7/24/2010 10:36pm
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Well when are we going to get to see JS on the track, will it be next weekend? I thought he was supposed to be out...
Well when are we going to get to see JS on the track, will it be next weekend? I thought he was supposed to be out there this weekend. I want to see a good battle.
Nah he skipped out this race and is coiming back in three weeks. Thats a lot of time to hone in on some little stuff. Would have liked to seen hime race this weekend though. Might have been a race.

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hartebreak 7/24/2010 10:38pm
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At the race today I noticed that Dungey seems to flow with the track better than most guys. He seemed to be setting himself up for corners in the air better than most, he missed more of the chop and braking bumps. I think he is just super dialed right now and is a frickin freight train. His program is definately hitting on all cylinders right now. Big shout out to Sipes today, kid rode awesome, especially in the 1st moto.
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BobbyM 7/24/2010 10:42pm
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hartebreak wrote:
At the race today I noticed that Dungey seems to flow with the track better than most guys. He seemed to be setting himself up for...
At the race today I noticed that Dungey seems to flow with the track better than most guys. He seemed to be setting himself up for corners in the air better than most, he missed more of the chop and braking bumps. I think he is just super dialed right now and is a frickin freight train. His program is definately hitting on all cylinders right now. Big shout out to Sipes today, kid rode awesome, especially in the 1st moto.
and don't forget...he is SMART! don't take much smarts to beat other scooter racers though.... he sees things and thinks...i say right on. i bet he would kick ass in RR too.
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stoop 7/24/2010 10:42pm
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James Stewart wouldn't race if he didnt think he was going to win, he is going to come out breathing fire, and make a statement to the people who have forgotten how unbelievable he is. Lets all hope for a good battle.
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Overdrive 7/24/2010 10:43pm
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Well I am glad JS sat out the x games, that was the right decision so I cant really bash him for not riding this weekend. But I am really looking forward to see him back out and battling Dungey. I think JS is the only guy who can really give Dungey a run for the money. If James is faster than Dungey I bet Dungey can and will step it up. I am hoping for the same kind of battles RC and JS had outdoors.
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jmx411 7/24/2010 10:43pm
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Stewart will run with Dungey, but I think that Dungey will beat Stewart. The reason is because in 08 Stewart had no one to push him for more than a couple of laps so he just put in on cruise control the entire race. If he has Dungey running with him the entire moto he will make mistakes. Stewart has always been a guy that if someone is running with him the entire moto he will make mistakes and push it too hard and fall. Dungey is to smooth and calm to make the big mistake.
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sharkey 7/24/2010 10:48pm
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it was pretty obvious why dungey is winning. he can flat out ride all his laps like most guys can on their first 5. i watched him and kevin duke it out today and windham even pass him back but you could see the other guys relax when they got tired and dungey never seemed to slo one bit. ik was impressed. i think the euros will be in for a shock this year at colorado. hes stepped it up ALOT!!!
junglefrankjoe 7/24/2010 11:59pm
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You shouldn't make threads like these. If Stewart gets on here and reads them , he might find a reason to not show up. We don't want him second guessing himself now do we?
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ReedyMX 7/25/2010 1:32am
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James said it himself "We have a new sheriff in town"
A1 Dungey led most of the race against James.
Dungey has more confidence now.
It is going to be close. I dont think anyone can call it.
I think Dungey can push harder if he wants.
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pilotdude 7/25/2010 1:42am
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I was in the media tent after the motos today at Washougal.

In the press conference, I think it was Gary Bailey who asked a question that was basically, "You've got this game figured out against this current crop of riders, but Stewart is a different level of rider...do you think you can beat him?"

Dungey's face turned to stone, and he looked right at Bailey and said, "I ain't going to let ANYBODY walk all over me."

You could feel the atmosphere in the media tent change when he said said that. The body language of the people in that room said it all. Dungey meant what he said, and everyone knew it, and I think believed it.
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I was in the media tent after the motos today at Washougal. In the press conference, I think it was Gary Bailey who asked a question...
I was in the media tent after the motos today at Washougal.

In the press conference, I think it was Gary Bailey who asked a question that was basically, "You've got this game figured out against this current crop of riders, but Stewart is a different level of rider...do you think you can beat him?"

Dungey's face turned to stone, and he looked right at Bailey and said, "I ain't going to let ANYBODY walk all over me."

You could feel the atmosphere in the media tent change when he said said that. The body language of the people in that room said it all. Dungey meant what he said, and everyone knew it, and I think believed it.
Wow, That's surprising coming from Dungey. For him to make such a bold statement like that. But after winning so much i guess it takes your confidence way high. But this is the mentality Dungey needs.
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Crush 7/25/2010 3:02am
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James is going to make some people look pretty silly very shortly...
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pilotdude wrote:
I was in the media tent after the motos today at Washougal. In the press conference, I think it was Gary Bailey who asked a question...
I was in the media tent after the motos today at Washougal.

In the press conference, I think it was Gary Bailey who asked a question that was basically, "You've got this game figured out against this current crop of riders, but Stewart is a different level of rider...do you think you can beat him?"

Dungey's face turned to stone, and he looked right at Bailey and said, "I ain't going to let ANYBODY walk all over me."

You could feel the atmosphere in the media tent change when he said said that. The body language of the people in that room said it all. Dungey meant what he said, and everyone knew it, and I think believed it.
That´s a good mentality to have, but James can still beat him. I´m surprised at how quickly people forget.
Stewart is smarter now, remember A1? he cruised behind dungey the entire race and reeled in 5seconds and passed him in TWO laps at the end.
junglefrankjoe 7/25/2010 3:43am
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Stewart can't handle the pressure for two full moto's after being off for so long. He will try too hard and take a soil sample...........maybe. I think James will do better chasing than leading. If he is smart he will take it easy.
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Tbteam 7/25/2010 4:31am
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RandyS wrote:
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart...
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart can put a few laps together at Dungey speed or maybe faster but I'm not sure he can hang every lap. Dungey doesn't make mistakes. Not convinced there will be a blue #7 at Unidilla or any of the other 3, you can't come off the couch and be as ready as if you've been racing week in and week out.
True. The pace has gone up slightly.

It's now approaching 80% of James pace from two years ago.

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WhKnuckle 7/25/2010 4:34am
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First, I'm actually amazed that Stewart is thinking of coming back at Unadilla. That track keeps trying to kill him, and he keeps coming back. He's one hard headed hombre.

Second, I actually hope Dungey is smart enough not to change his program or take any chances to beat Stewart, and I think he is. When you watch him race, every moto is similar - he wants a top five start, then he wants to keep the leader in sight, then he wants to put on a charge and get in the lead, then he wants to hold that 4 or 5 seconds until the end. He's very disciplined. I can't imagine a rider who's that disciplined not realizing that when James comes back, taking a risk so he can beat James is about the only way he can lose this championship.
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stoop 7/25/2010 4:40am
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i like Dungey, but hope james gives him a reality check
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RandyS wrote:
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart...
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart can put a few laps together at Dungey speed or maybe faster but I'm not sure he can hang every lap. Dungey doesn't make mistakes. Not convinced there will be a blue #7 at Unidilla or any of the other 3, you can't come off the couch and be as ready as if you've been racing week in and week out.
How many times has it ever took Stewart 18 min to pass Short in his career. Shorts pace has not picked up in the last yr or 2. IMO, Stewart takes care of short in 4 to 5 corners max and checks out.

Right now Dungey is the best guy on the track right but he is no where near the level that Stewart races at.

IMO Stewart's can ride at 80% and wax these guys. There is no one fast enough to make him crash.

We will find out in 2 weeks but i will say it now that Stewart wins by 30-40 seconds over Dungey.
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WhKnuckle 7/25/2010 5:23am
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RandyS wrote:
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart...
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart can put a few laps together at Dungey speed or maybe faster but I'm not sure he can hang every lap. Dungey doesn't make mistakes. Not convinced there will be a blue #7 at Unidilla or any of the other 3, you can't come off the couch and be as ready as if you've been racing week in and week out.
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True. The pace has gone up slightly.

It's now approaching 80% of James pace from two years ago.
And that's not to take anything away from Dungey. Stewart and RC were cyborg motocross riders. I'm not sure if people were aware of it, but the 2006/2007 RC/Stewart battles were the pinnacle of the art of motocross. There has never been any two riders who rode that fast and that hard to beat the other one.

When Stewart comes back, he'll win every moto he enters, and Dungey shouldn't take that too hard. Dungey just needs to beat all the human riders - let the guy from Krypton go his way and you'll see him in the middle of the podium while you get your #1 plate.
Ground_Control 7/25/2010 5:26am
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I predict a stomach virus for bubba,..the pressure for him to win will be too much.

If Ryan keeps his cool, rides his race, and then pours it on with the last 8 minutes +3....Stewart will not be able to match.

Despite his great talent, people need to keep in mind his age. His money that has no doubt softened him up, reality shows and marriage that divide his attention.....

Dungey will win.

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DavidR 7/25/2010 5:28am
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RandyS wrote:
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart...
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart can put a few laps together at Dungey speed or maybe faster but I'm not sure he can hang every lap. Dungey doesn't make mistakes. Not convinced there will be a blue #7 at Unidilla or any of the other 3, you can't come off the couch and be as ready as if you've been racing week in and week out.
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How many times has it ever took Stewart 18 min to pass Short in his career. Shorts pace has not picked up in the last yr...
How many times has it ever took Stewart 18 min to pass Short in his career. Shorts pace has not picked up in the last yr or 2. IMO, Stewart takes care of short in 4 to 5 corners max and checks out.

Right now Dungey is the best guy on the track right but he is no where near the level that Stewart races at.

IMO Stewart's can ride at 80% and wax these guys. There is no one fast enough to make him crash.

We will find out in 2 weeks but i will say it now that Stewart wins by 30-40 seconds over Dungey.
30 to 40 seconds?
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RMZ819 7/25/2010 5:35am
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RandyS wrote:
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart...
In the last 2 years the pace has gone up at least slightly, and Dungey is rock solid and winning by RC/JS gaps. I'm sure Stewart can put a few laps together at Dungey speed or maybe faster but I'm not sure he can hang every lap. Dungey doesn't make mistakes. Not convinced there will be a blue #7 at Unidilla or any of the other 3, you can't come off the couch and be as ready as if you've been racing week in and week out.
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How many times has it ever took Stewart 18 min to pass Short in his career. Shorts pace has not picked up in the last yr...
How many times has it ever took Stewart 18 min to pass Short in his career. Shorts pace has not picked up in the last yr or 2. IMO, Stewart takes care of short in 4 to 5 corners max and checks out.

Right now Dungey is the best guy on the track right but he is no where near the level that Stewart races at.

IMO Stewart's can ride at 80% and wax these guys. There is no one fast enough to make him crash.

We will find out in 2 weeks but i will say it now that Stewart wins by 30-40 seconds over Dungey.
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30 to 40 seconds?
Yep. Stewart is going to show these guys where the bear shits in the woods.

He is there to destroy these guy and thats what he is going to do.
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First, I'm actually amazed that Stewart is thinking of coming back at Unadilla. That track keeps trying to kill him, and he keeps coming back. He's...
First, I'm actually amazed that Stewart is thinking of coming back at Unadilla. That track keeps trying to kill him, and he keeps coming back. He's one hard headed hombre.

Second, I actually hope Dungey is smart enough not to change his program or take any chances to beat Stewart, and I think he is. When you watch him race, every moto is similar - he wants a top five start, then he wants to keep the leader in sight, then he wants to put on a charge and get in the lead, then he wants to hold that 4 or 5 seconds until the end. He's very disciplined. I can't imagine a rider who's that disciplined not realizing that when James comes back, taking a risk so he can beat James is about the only way he can lose this championship.
This makes sense Sam. I think Dungey can beat him though. But in order to do it he will have to change his M.O. He can't be so patient. He will have to go right from the start and push instead of waiting for everyone else to get tired/comfortable. I hope Ryan worries about his championship BEFORE he goes out to knock Stewart down a peg.
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If I were Ryan, I'd ride hard and if JS got by, then I'd cruise.

Put together a plan for next year to beat James. Of course, good chance James won't race or will be injured next season.
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Stewart is a fertilizer tour guide???

30-40 seconds ahead of Dungey is delusional, by the way. Bless your heart I hope you get better.

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pcdoc 7/25/2010 6:06am
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Isn't it funny how life/motocross keep movin on...RC never raced against the '93 version of McGrath...James never raced against the 2001 version of RC, and James will be racing against the 2010 version of RD. Just sayin...
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RMZ819 wrote:
How many times has it ever took Stewart 18 min to pass Short in his career. Shorts pace has not picked up in the last yr...
How many times has it ever took Stewart 18 min to pass Short in his career. Shorts pace has not picked up in the last yr or 2. IMO, Stewart takes care of short in 4 to 5 corners max and checks out.

Right now Dungey is the best guy on the track right but he is no where near the level that Stewart races at.

IMO Stewart's can ride at 80% and wax these guys. There is no one fast enough to make him crash.

We will find out in 2 weeks but i will say it now that Stewart wins by 30-40 seconds over Dungey.
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30 to 40 seconds?
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Yep. Stewart is going to show these guys where the bear shits in the woods. He is there to destroy these guy and thats what he...
Yep. Stewart is going to show these guys where the bear shits in the woods.

He is there to destroy these guy and thats what he is going to do.
30-40 sec! Put the crack pipe down. So basically you are saying noone has gotten one oita faster since 2008. Man that's a bummer, these guys might as well stop practicing since they peaked 2yrs ago.Bubba might beat RD by 10 sec if at all. Bobby said it best, that's why they line up.

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