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NateDawg241 wrote:

2011 Reed would've gotten his shit kicked in by Ricky just like he did every other time they raced outdoors. Reed never once beat RC straight...

2011 Reed would've gotten his shit kicked in by Ricky just like he did every other time they raced outdoors. Reed never once beat RC straight up in motocross

And you can't claim Jett's season was more dominant when he was caught from behind multiple times.

NateDawg241 wrote:

2011 Reed would've gotten his shit kicked in by Ricky just like he did every other time they raced outdoors. Reed never once beat RC straight...

2011 Reed would've gotten his shit kicked in by Ricky just like he did every other time they raced outdoors. Reed never once beat RC straight up in motocross

And you can't claim Jett's season was more dominant when he was caught from behind multiple times.

blockhead17 wrote:

Chad broke RC’s perfect season, at southwick I believe..

NateDawg241 wrote:

2011 Reed would've gotten his shit kicked in by Ricky just like he did every other time they raced outdoors. Reed never once beat RC straight...

2011 Reed would've gotten his shit kicked in by Ricky just like he did every other time they raced outdoors. Reed never once beat RC straight up in motocross

And you can't claim Jett's season was more dominant when he was caught from behind multiple times.

Echo wrote:

I didn't say most dominant. I said it was the greatest - which is to say the most impressive. As a 19 year old rookie *would...

I didn't say most dominant. I said it was the greatest - which is to say the most impressive. As a 19 year old rookie *would turn 20 after like round 9 he went undefeated and CHASE SEXTON wasn't able to lead a single lap against him. Chase is definitely superior to any version of Reed outdoors. Supercross - different story of course. Ricky Carmichael is the greatest motocross racer in history and I think I'll be saying the same thing 20 years from now when Jett is long gone. It doesn't change the fact that I believe 2023 Jett is the most impressive season.

NateDawg241 wrote:

You called it "objectively the greatest motocross season ever" which is nonsense. Literally all of the other top contenders were hurt for some if not all...

You called it "objectively the greatest motocross season ever" which is nonsense. Literally all of the other top contenders were hurt for some if not all of the season (including the defending champ), his margin of victory was consistently much less than RC, and he was caught from behind multiple times. Oh and RC was doing it off a torn ACL.

Jett wasn't the fastest or best rider every moto in 2023, and should've been beaten multiple times. RC was by far the best guy every time the gate dropped in 2004

You keep acting like Chase was 100% in 2023 and he wasn't. If you stuck 2023 Sexton in that 2011 season he's finishing 4th. We saw what a healthy Chase looks like in 2024.

Echo wrote:

We're not about to downplay what is objectively the greatest motocross season in the history of the sport. He beat Chase in 16 motos who by...

We're not about to downplay what is objectively the greatest motocross season in the history of the sport. He beat Chase in 16 motos who by the end admitted that the level had risen from 2022 which everyone said was the "gnarliest season ever" a year where Chase held the red plate a lot - Jett didnt let Chase lead a single lap, let alone win. Chase is so strong that he could win from 40th with Jett compromised. Not to mention the champ from just 2 yeaers prior was on the gate and riding strong.

Echo wrote:

I didn't say most dominant. I said it was the greatest - which is to say the most impressive. As a 19 year old rookie *would...

I didn't say most dominant. I said it was the greatest - which is to say the most impressive. As a 19 year old rookie *would turn 20 after like round 9 he went undefeated and CHASE SEXTON wasn't able to lead a single lap against him. Chase is definitely superior to any version of Reed outdoors. Supercross - different story of course. Ricky Carmichael is the greatest motocross racer in history and I think I'll be saying the same thing 20 years from now when Jett is long gone. It doesn't change the fact that I believe 2023 Jett is the most impressive season.

NateDawg241 wrote:

You called it "objectively the greatest motocross season ever" which is nonsense. Literally all of the other top contenders were hurt for some if not all...

You called it "objectively the greatest motocross season ever" which is nonsense. Literally all of the other top contenders were hurt for some if not all of the season (including the defending champ), his margin of victory was consistently much less than RC, and he was caught from behind multiple times. Oh and RC was doing it off a torn ACL.

Jett wasn't the fastest or best rider every moto in 2023, and should've been beaten multiple times. RC was by far the best guy every time the gate dropped in 2004

You keep acting like Chase was 100% in 2023 and he wasn't. If you stuck 2023 Sexton in that 2011 season he's finishing 4th. We saw what a healthy Chase looks like in 2024.

Echo wrote:

Your idea of a healthy Chase Sexton couldn't win a single overall against Jett other than Hangtown where he literally died in moto 1 and was...

Your idea of a healthy Chase Sexton couldn't win a single overall against Jett other than Hangtown where he literally died in moto 1 and was a shell of himself in moto 2, getting beat by AP, Jcoop, Hunter & Ando. In 2023 Chase was putting together some of the best outdoors rides in history and didn't lead a single lap. I'm done replying to you on this topic at this point because you clearly have an inspired agenda and can't fathom giving the slightest bit of credit in spite of it. If it helps you in someway to diminish Jett then do you man. I'm just going to enjoy watching whilst he's still around and not be salty about it. Like I can't believe you're implying that Chase wasn't 100& at any point in 2023, I literally can't believe it. I'll leave you on your hill

NateDawg241 wrote:

You called it "objectively the greatest motocross season ever" which is nonsense. Literally all of the other top contenders were hurt for some if not all...

You called it "objectively the greatest motocross season ever" which is nonsense. Literally all of the other top contenders were hurt for some if not all of the season (including the defending champ), his margin of victory was consistently much less than RC, and he was caught from behind multiple times. Oh and RC was doing it off a torn ACL.

Jett wasn't the fastest or best rider every moto in 2023, and should've been beaten multiple times. RC was by far the best guy every time the gate dropped in 2004

You keep acting like Chase was 100% in 2023 and he wasn't. If you stuck 2023 Sexton in that 2011 season he's finishing 4th. We saw what a healthy Chase looks like in 2024.

Echo wrote:

Your idea of a healthy Chase Sexton couldn't win a single overall against Jett other than Hangtown where he literally died in moto 1 and was...

Your idea of a healthy Chase Sexton couldn't win a single overall against Jett other than Hangtown where he literally died in moto 1 and was a shell of himself in moto 2, getting beat by AP, Jcoop, Hunter & Ando. In 2023 Chase was putting together some of the best outdoors rides in history and didn't lead a single lap. I'm done replying to you on this topic at this point because you clearly have an inspired agenda and can't fathom giving the slightest bit of credit in spite of it. If it helps you in someway to diminish Jett then do you man. I'm just going to enjoy watching whilst he's still around and not be salty about it. Like I can't believe you're implying that Chase wasn't 100& at any point in 2023, I literally can't believe it. I'll leave you on your hill

NateDawg241 wrote:

Remind me again, who was ahead of who when Jett pulled out of the series? Because I'm pretty sure it was Chase. Happened right after he...

Remind me again, who was ahead of who when Jett pulled out of the series? Because I'm pretty sure it was Chase. Happened right after he smoked Jett in Moto 2 at Southwick

And I'm not diminishing Jett, I'm putting context around his accomplishment (which is still incredible). I wasn't the one making grandiose statements claiming his season was OBJECTIVELY the best ever. You're the one making those statement and trying to diminish the accomplishments of the greatest rider ever. Like seriously, claiming 2023 Dylan Ferrandis is better than Reed? 😂 Come on man, get a grip

Echo wrote:

Reading comprehension is a lost art 

Echo wrote:

He beat roczen after losing his visor in a crash and making up a big gap. And how are you mentioning webb and ando who have...

He beat roczen after losing his visor in a crash and making up a big gap. And how are you mentioning webb and ando who have like 2 national wins combined. Competition wise it's superior to Stews and both of RC's undefeated years. None of them had someone on Chase or Dylan's level

NateDawg241 wrote:

Dude what?! Chad Reed wasn't as good as Chase or Dylan?! 😂 I guess you forgot 2011 when Reed was straight up beating Dungey and RV...

Dude what?! Chad Reed wasn't as good as Chase or Dylan?! 😂 I guess you forgot 2011 when Reed was straight up beating Dungey and RV (2 of the greatest motocross riders ever)  before getting launched to the moon at Millville.

Speaking of Millville, there were multiple races in 2023 where Chase was straight up faster than Jett and caught him from behind, but couldn't make the pass. That NEVER happened to RC in 2004.

Echo wrote:

He beat roczen after losing his visor in a crash and making up a big gap. And how are you mentioning webb and ando who have...

He beat roczen after losing his visor in a crash and making up a big gap. And how are you mentioning webb and ando who have like 2 national wins combined. Competition wise it's superior to Stews and both of RC's undefeated years. None of them had someone on Chase or Dylan's level

NateDawg241 wrote:

Dude what?! Chad Reed wasn't as good as Chase or Dylan?! 😂 I guess you forgot 2011 when Reed was straight up beating Dungey and RV...

Dude what?! Chad Reed wasn't as good as Chase or Dylan?! 😂 I guess you forgot 2011 when Reed was straight up beating Dungey and RV (2 of the greatest motocross riders ever)  before getting launched to the moon at Millville.

Speaking of Millville, there were multiple races in 2023 where Chase was straight up faster than Jett and caught him from behind, but couldn't make the pass. That NEVER happened to RC in 2004.

Chris_Buehler wrote:

RC yarded everyone, every moto, by 30-45sec. Most impressive, most dominant, whatever terminology you want to use, it's RC in 2004. You might wanna argue Jett...

RC yarded everyone, every moto, by 30-45sec. Most impressive, most dominant, whatever terminology you want to use, it's RC in 2004. You might wanna argue Jett would back it down in the lead and was content to win by 10sec. Maybe. Still makes RC more impressive. He poured it on and decimated the field. Maybe Jett does down if he tried to do the same

washingtonstate80-125cc wrote:

MC was untouchable for all of his 7 title winning seasons. I’m just old enough to have witnessed the second half of his career. I don’t...

MC was untouchable for all of his 7 title winning seasons. I’m just old enough to have witnessed the second half of his career. I don’t think the younger guys that don’t know understand how dominant he was. No one was anywhere near him year after year, with the one odd Suzuki year being the only exception. Jett is very good, and had a phenomenal outdoor season in a class that was decimated by injuries, but other than that he is nowhere near the dominance of MC. In a 450 class that is now full of healthy competition, Jett has been beat heads up by three different riders this year alone. That never happened to MC until the very end of his career. Jett will likely stack up a lot of titles like RC and RV, but getting to 72 requires sheer dominance week in and week out for nearly a decade.

Echo wrote:

We're not about to downplay what is objectively the greatest motocross season in the history of the sport. He beat Chase in 16 motos who by...

We're not about to downplay what is objectively the greatest motocross season in the history of the sport. He beat Chase in 16 motos who by the end admitted that the level had risen from 2022 which everyone said was the "gnarliest season ever" a year where Chase held the red plate a lot - Jett didnt let Chase lead a single lap, let alone win. Chase is so strong that he could win from 40th with Jett compromised. Not to mention the champ from just 2 yeaers prior was on the gate and riding strong.