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The International Federation has rewritten the motocross categories. From 2010 the two-strokes are back in the MX2 with the same displacement.
While I love to hear this being a die hard two stroke guy, my question is who other than KTM still makes them? Are guys going to race 3-5 year old bikes against new pigs?
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While I love to hear this being a die hard two stroke guy, my question is who other than KTM still makes them? Are guys going to race 3-5 year old bikes against new pigs?[/quote:24zqvfv3]
Goin' be like the KTM 50 SX challenge they do in SX.
While I love to hear this being a die hard two stroke guy, my question is who other than KTM still makes them? Are guys going to race 3-5 year old bikes against new pigs?[/quote:24uwa4hh]
Ummm .... you can walk into any Yamaha dealer and get an 08 YZ 250. Ready to race out of the box and no $ 1,200.00 Ti exhaust required.
You must be hitting the crack pipe again. What are they going to do.......put electronic computer traction control on 2t's to give it the hook up that 4 strokes have? Two strokes are dead. They look and sound like vintage bikes for a reason. They are.
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A 250 2 stk will smoke a 250 four stroke at most tracks. 2 strokes are not dead yet.
And you think a 4-stroke is new? Ive said it I cant remember how many times now; the whole notion of using the Otto Cycle to move a motorcycle around is antiquated as hell. Cams & valves, valve springs and locks, gears & chains, buckets & shims with lash that opens & closes. All this moving apparatus just to create energy to move a dirt bike forward. The two-stroke IS more advanced by default because it uses less parts to do the same job. Any engineer with a clue will tell you LESS moving parts is better, period. You wanna see advanced technology, go look at the Evinrude E-tec and get back to me on how 'advanced' a valve munching pig is.
So keep on poo-poo'ing the simple, reliable two-stroke for the 'new' 4-stroke. I have a 1938 Allis Chalmers 'B' that has the exact same design to get it around too, but I wouldnt call it cutting edge stuff.
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You must be hitting the crack pipe again. What are they going to do.......put electronic computer traction control on 2t's to give it the hook up that 4 strokes have? Two strokes are dead. They look and sound like vintage bikes for a reason. They are.[/quote:21euazr2]
35 posts and every one more idiotic than than the last
congratulations
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So keep on poo-poo'ing the simple, reliable two-stroke for the 'new' 4-stroke. exact same design to get it around too, but I wouldnt call it cutting edge stuff.[/quote:6g0q23gu][/quote:6g0q23gu]
True, true and true.
That E-Tec is one bad ass 2 stroke
06 YZ 125, 06 YZ 250F and very very soon an 08 YZ250
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so in displacements classes the engine cc's are the same no matter 2strk or 4strk?
isn't this the case now in ama amatuer level?
As for the 2 stroke being more [i:36wi5ef9]advanced[/i:36wi5ef9] than what's available for 4 strokes, I'd have to disagree. The 2 stroke is a better engine for dirtbikes because of it's inherent simplicity. When you look at the truly advanced 4 stroke designs available today, even the trickest 2 stroke pales in comparison. However, that comes with a price, and besides the cost, it's the complexity. From variable intake and exhaust volumes/lengths, to pnuematic valve return, continuously variable valve timing and height, there's no end in sight. Given the astonishing amount of time and money that's been spent on the 4 stroke over the last 100 years, it's no surprise it's much further along than the 2 stroke.
We'll be on electric dirtbikes within 20 years anyway, assuming it's not completely outlawed by an out of control gvt. by then.
You must be hitting the crack pipe again. What are they going to do.......put electronic computer traction control on 2t's to give it the hook up that 4 strokes have? Two strokes are dead. They look and sound like vintage bikes for a reason. They are.[/quote:2bhxz3se]
35 posts and every one more idiotic than than the last
congratulations[/quote:2bhxz3se]
And the '08 KTM two strokes sound and look vintage....You're right Dean, congrats in order....lmao!
The problem is that the 4 stroke is hurting the sport I love, when the noise bothers me, a rider, what do you think a non-rider thinks. There were two guys riding the pigs this weekend a half mile from my house and it sounded like they were in my back yard. Make the 4 stroke quiet and I could care less what you ride.
[size=150:otn1yz64]2 STROKES ARE DEAD. GIVE IT UP ALREADY[/size:otn1yz64]
[size=150:7f7sfw8m]2 STROKES ARE DEAD. GIVE IT UP ALREADY[/size:7f7sfw8m][/quote:7f7sfw8m]
No shit!
Hmmm, do I want to race a two stroke against bikes with twice the displacement?
Tough "choice."
Hmmm, do I want to race a two stroke against bikes with twice the displacement?
Tough "choice."[/quote:rhvbhrhw]
What would you decide if they had the same displacement? cc VS cc
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