MXGP Rumours/Silly season

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Pop Shmoke wrote:
Am I the only one who was disappointed to see webb is still rocking a bell helmet? Matthes was talking on the podcast to webb about...

Am I the only one who was disappointed to see webb is still rocking a bell helmet? Matthes was talking on the podcast to webb about the fly gear and kept saying the fly formula helmet is soo good, youre gonna love it. Wtf was he talking about, webb is still using bell? 

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He'll be in a Fly helmet come A1. 

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12/19/2024 5:33am

Some recent lesser known names  announced deals:

MXHandel - MXGP - Arvid Luning
DVS Junior - MX2 - Saad Soulimani
YMpbR - MX2 - Filip Olsson
YMpbR - MX2 - Martin Michelis
JM Honda - EMX250 - Noel Zanocz
RFME - EMX250 - Adria Monne
RFME - EMX250 - Salvador Perez

Pretty decent get for TM to have a 2nd rider in MX2. 

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12/19/2024 9:11am
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Max Nagl will switch to Triumph aswell, trying to defend his latest ADAC title. Is Haarup going to race, or just stay in Georgia for testing?

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12/19/2024 9:59am
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JackLHyde wrote:

Max Nagl will switch to Triumph aswell, trying to defend his latest ADAC title. Is Haarup going to race, or just stay in Georgia for testing?

He'll be in Europe for most of the testing. There's not a lot of point in him riding perfectly groomed US tracks when he'll race places like Loket, Trentino etc in 2026. 

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12/23/2024 2:04am

Could we imagine a deal between AIT Fantic team (Petrov's team) and Paturel to do european races in MXGP category for 2025? 

🤔

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12/23/2024 2:11am

Could we imagine a deal between AIT Fantic team (Petrov's team) and Paturel to do european races in MXGP category for 2025? 

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If he’s gonna pay his own ride, then there is a chance. 

12/23/2024 2:15am
JBone19 wrote:

If he’s gonna pay his own ride, then there is a chance. 

I don't think it would be the plan for Paturel to pay to ride...

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12/23/2024 2:23am
JBone19 wrote:

If he’s gonna pay his own ride, then there is a chance. 

I don't think it would be the plan for Paturel to pay to ride...

Then he’s out for MXGP I guess. 

12/23/2024 2:37am
JBone19 wrote:

Then he’s out for MXGP I guess. 

Except for an hypothetic fill-in ride, maybe...

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JBone19 wrote:

Then he’s out for MXGP I guess. 

Except for an hypothetic fill-in ride, maybe...

That’s maybe possible, but if I was a team owner I was looking for other options instead of Paturel. For example, Guillod.

12/23/2024 3:51am
JBone19 wrote:

That’s maybe possible, but if I was a team owner I was looking for other options instead of Paturel. For example, Guillod.

Guillod is actually in the same weird situation than Paturel, yes...

But he will be behind the gate on a private Yamaha, as long he won't have a decent fill-in ride.

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12/23/2024 4:48am
JBone19 wrote:

That’s maybe possible, but if I was a team owner I was looking for other options instead of Paturel. For example, Guillod.

Guillod is actually in the same weird situation than Paturel, yes...But he will be behind the gate on a private Yamaha, as long he won't have...

Guillod is actually in the same weird situation than Paturel, yes...

But he will be behind the gate on a private Yamaha, as long he won't have a decent fill-in ride.

IMO it’s not a weird situation, they are (getting) old and seems that they are both not easy to work with. 

12/23/2024 5:55am
JBone19 wrote:

IMO it’s not a weird situation, they are (getting) old and seems that they are both not easy to work with. 

Guillod is top 10 material and Paturel top 12 material in MXGP category.

And not so "old".

They deserve a ride for the 2025 season.

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JBone19 wrote:

IMO it’s not a weird situation, they are (getting) old and seems that they are both not easy to work with. 

Guillod is top 10 material and Paturel top 12 material in MXGP category.

And not so "old".

They deserve a ride for the 2025 season.

Not so old, but both 30+ if I’m correct. 
 

Deserve is always a big note, if they pay like almost everyone who’s doing motocross, they are part of the MXGP class. 

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12/23/2024 9:08am Edited Date/Time 12/23/2024 10:10pm
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He'll be in Europe for most of the testing. There's not a lot of point in him riding perfectly groomed US tracks when he'll race places...

He'll be in Europe for most of the testing. There's not a lot of point in him riding perfectly groomed US tracks when he'll race places like Loket, Trentino etc in 2026. 

Glad he got something, but what a bummer of a situation for him.  Professional test riders should be at the end of their racing careers, not during their prime.  A 23 year old top 10 rider should be racing.  I think it's also kind of weak to have career 250 guys in the US, but at least they out there getting paid for gate drops. This won't do much to get Haarup race ready for 2026 IMO but I hope it goes well for him...

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12/23/2024 11:31am
JBone19 wrote:

That’s maybe possible, but if I was a team owner I was looking for other options instead of Paturel. For example, Guillod.

Guillod is actually in the same weird situation than Paturel, yes...But he will be behind the gate on a private Yamaha, as long he won't have...

Guillod is actually in the same weird situation than Paturel, yes...

But he will be behind the gate on a private Yamaha, as long he won't have a decent fill-in ride.

JBone19 wrote:

IMO it’s not a weird situation, they are (getting) old and seems that they are both not easy to work with. 

Agreed, when Paturel took his helmet off at Riola Sardo he looked like McElraths dad. 

 

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12/23/2024 12:19pm Edited Date/Time 12/23/2024 12:21pm
philG wrote:

Agreed, when Paturel took his helmet off at Riola Sardo he looked like McElraths dad. 

 

Paturel would actually smoke every younger british rider on a 450.. 

😇

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12/23/2024 12:53pm
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Agreed, when Paturel took his helmet off at Riola Sardo he looked like McElraths dad. 

 

Paturel would actually smoke every younger british rider on a 450.. 

😇

Thats not something to be proud of. Needs to give some extra in the GP’s

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12/23/2024 1:06pm
philG wrote:

Agreed, when Paturel took his helmet off at Riola Sardo he looked like McElraths dad. 

 

Paturel would actually smoke every younger british rider on a 450.. 

😇

Which bit of that makes him a better bet than a younger guy with no ride. 

He has had enough goes at it now, do you think he is worth a seat in place of any of the other riders. 

The expectation he is going to do better in 2025 , is not based on any kind of logic . 

He won the MXoN, so he is obviously a decent rider, and was in 250 when it was as deep as it has been, but he hasnt  been good enough even occasionally. 

If he had money, he should do AMA outdoors, that would be cool. 

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12/23/2024 1:35pm
JBone19 wrote:

Thats not something to be proud of. Needs to give some extra in the GP’s

Just kind of "bench racing" with PhilG. Nothing serious.

😉

 

12/23/2024 1:41pm
philG wrote:
Which bit of that makes him a better bet than a younger guy with no ride. He has had enough goes at it now, do you think...

Which bit of that makes him a better bet than a younger guy with no ride. 

He has had enough goes at it now, do you think he is worth a seat in place of any of the other riders. 

The expectation he is going to do better in 2025 , is not based on any kind of logic . 

He won the MXoN, so he is obviously a decent rider, and was in 250 when it was as deep as it has been, but he hasnt  been good enough even occasionally. 

If he had money, he should do AMA outdoors, that would be cool. 

Paturel isn't actually taking any seat to youngers riders. 

With that kind of logic, you must get along very well with InFront people...

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philG wrote:
Which bit of that makes him a better bet than a younger guy with no ride. He has had enough goes at it now, do you think...

Which bit of that makes him a better bet than a younger guy with no ride. 

He has had enough goes at it now, do you think he is worth a seat in place of any of the other riders. 

The expectation he is going to do better in 2025 , is not based on any kind of logic . 

He won the MXoN, so he is obviously a decent rider, and was in 250 when it was as deep as it has been, but he hasnt  been good enough even occasionally. 

If he had money, he should do AMA outdoors, that would be cool. 

Paturel isn't actually taking any seat to youngers riders. 

With that kind of logic, you must get along very well with InFront people...

Yeah, the De Baerts deal was all his own thing, for him. 

If we had more guys like him, 10-15 would be far harder, thats for sure. 

He has just turned 30, and is 2 years younger than Febvre, but he doesnt have a WC to fall back on. 

Its a hard time to be chasing a seat.

 

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FIM Grand Prix Teamoverzicht 2025:
– Team Red Bull-KTM-DeCarli
Simon Langenfelder (MX2)
Sacha Coenen (MX2)
Lucas Coenen (MXGP)

- Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
Jeffrey Herlings (MXGP)
Marc Antione Rossi (MX2)
Andrea Adamo (MX2)

- Van Venrooij Racing-KTM
Cas Valk (MX2)

- Gabriels-SS24-KTM
Gyan Doensen (EMX250)
Maximillian Werner (EMX250)

-  Racestore KTM Factory Rookies
Aron Katona (EMX125)
Nicolo Alvisi (EMX125)

- WZ Racing Team-KTM
Maxime Grau (MX2)
Quentin Prunières (MX2)
Maximilian Ernecker ? (EMX250)

- Kosak KTM Racing
Roan van Moosdijk (MXGP)
Bradley Mesters (EMX250)
Valentin Kees (EMX250)

- Osicka MX Team
Marcel Stauffer (MXGP)
Tomas Kohut (MXGP)
Vaclav Janout (EMX250)

- Kullen 1502 KTM Racing Team
August Frisk (EMX250)

- KEMEA-Monster Energy-Yamaha Racing Team
Jago Geerts (MXGP)
Maxime Renaux (MXGP)
Calvin Vlaanderen (MXGP)

- Hutten Metaal Monster Energy-Yamaha Racing Team
Thibault Benistant (MX2)
Rick Elzinga (MX2)
Kārlis Albert Reišulis (MX2)

- VHR-VRT Yamaha Racing 
Ivano van Erp (EMX250)
Janis Reišulis (EMX250)
 
– MJC Yamaha Team
Mauno Faure (EMX125)
Dani Heitink (EMX125)
Jarne Bervoets (EMX125)
Levi Townley (EMX125)

– JK Racing-Yamaha
Isak Gifting (MXGP)
Jamie Keith (EMX125)
Nellie Fransson (WMX)
 

- De Baets MX Team-Yamaha
Tyla van de Poel (EMX125)
Bertram Thorius (EMX125)
Lotte van Drunen (WMX)
Danee Gelissen (WMX)

- SDM Corse-Fantic Factory
Francesco Bellei (EMX125)
Douwe Vanmechgelen (EMX125)
Simone Mancini (EMX250)

- Fantic Factory Racing Team MXGP
Glenn Coldenhoff (MXGP)
Brian Bogers (MXGP)
Andrea Bonacorsi (MXGP)

- AIT Racing Team-Fantic
? (EMX125)
Jayson van Drunen (EMX125)

– Kawasaki Racing Team-IceOne Racing
Romain Febvre (MXGP)
Pauls Jonass (MXGP)
Mathis Valin (MX2)

– BikeIt-Dixon Racing Team
Bobby Bruce ? (EMX250)
Courtny Duncan ? (WMX)

– BUD Racing-Kawasaki
Francisco Garcia (EMX250)
Jake Cannon (EMX250)

- Haaz Racing-Kawasaki
Tom Guyon (MX2)
Kay Karssemakers (MX2)

– Team HRC-Gariboldi Racing 
Tim Gajser (MXGP)
Ruben Fernandez (MXGP)
Ferruccio Zanchi (MX2)
Valerio Lata (MX2)

- Team Honda SR-Ship2 Cycle-Motoblouz
Kevin Horgmo (MXGP)
Alberto Forato (MXGP)

- JM Racing-Honda
Brent Van doninck (MXGP)
David Braceras (MX2)
Noel Zanocz (EMX250)

- JWR Honda Racing
Cornelius Toendel (MXGP)
Hugo Forsgren (EMX250)

- Ducati Maddii Racing
Jeremy Seewer (MXGP)
Mattia Guadagnini (MXGP)

– Nestaan MX-Husqvarna Racing
Kay de Wolf (MX2)
Liam Everts (MX2)

- MX-Handel Husqvarna Racing Team
Kevin Brumann (MXGP)
Arvid Luning (MXGP)
Kaarel Tilk (MXGP)

- Diana MX Team-Husqvarna
Luca Ruffini (EMX250)
Maurizio Scollo (EMX250)

– Marchetti Racing-Beta Factory
Ben Watson (MXGP) 
Tom Koch (MXGP)

- Monster Energy Triumph Factory Racing
Camden McLellan (MX2)
Guillem Farres (MX2)

- SixtySeven Racing-Husqvarna
Mark Scheu (MXGP)
Jan Krug (MX2)
Jaymian Ramakers (EMX250)

- Cat Moto-Bauerschmidt-Husqvarna
Nico Greutmann (EMX250)
Mads Fredsoe (EMX250)
Liam Owens (EMX250)
Alicia Goggel (WMX)

- Bauerschmidt Husqvarna MXGP
Cato Nickel (MXGP)
Lyonel Reichl (EMX250)

- Team JP253
Jan Pancar (MXGP)

- HTS KTM
Mike Gwerder (MX2)

- Leoparden Racing
Leopold Ambjornsson (MXGP)

- BTS Racing-KTM
Jens Walvoort (MX2)
Oriol Oliver (MX2)

- Chambers Racing
Adam Sterry (MXGP)
Ollie Colmer (EMX250)

- Young Motion Powered by Resa Racing
Martin Michelis (MX2)
Filip Olsson (MX2)
Samuel Nilsson (MX2)

- KL Racing Team
Magnus Smith (MX2)
Oscar Brix (MX2)
Nikolaj Skovgaard (MXGP)

- Schmicker Racing-KTM
Hakon Osterhagen ? (MX2)
Lynn Valk (WMX)
Lexi Pachmann(WMX)
? (WMX)

- Lexa MX Racing Team
Josh Gilbert (MXGP)
John Adamson (MXGP)
? (MX2)

- Team Steels Dr Jack-TM Racing
Julius Mikula (MX2)
Niccolo Mannini (EMX125)

- DvS Junior Racing Team-TM
Saad Soulimani (MX2)
Orel Lubis (MX2)
Kyliane Rocca (EMX125)
Angga Lubis (EMX125)

- RFME-GasGas-Mequitec Racing
Adrià Monné (EMX250)
Salvador Pérez (EMX250)
Enzo Badenas (EMX125)
Pablo Lara (EMX125)
Daniela Guillen (WMX)
Jana Sánchez (WMX)

- MCV Motorsport-TM-ABF Italia
Paolo Lugana (MX2)
Riccardo Pini (EMX125)
Hurricane Utech (EMX125)

- FMX4Ever Team-GasGas
Ian Ampoorter (EMX125)
Seth Priem (EMX125)
Arthur Decouter (EMX125)

- Millionaire Racing Team
Giuseppe Tropepe (MXGP+EMX Open)
? (EMX Open)

- DMX Celestini Motorsport-Fantic
Luca Colonelli (EMX125)
Gianluca De Marziantonio (EMX125)

- Team Seven Motorsports
Cesar Paine (EMX125)
Andrea Uccellini (EMX125)

- Ghidinelli Racing-KTM
Elias Escandell (EMX250)
Alexis Fueri (EMX250)
Brando Rispoli (EMX250)

- Dreams Racing-KTM
David Cracco (EMX125)
Toni Ziemer (EMX125)
Emil Ziemer (EMX125)
Kevin Cantù (85)

- Carmen KTM Racing
Vítězslav Marek (EMX250)

- DreamTeam-Fantic
Cole McCullough (EMX125)
Andrea Roberti (EMX125)

- Husqvarna-Max Bart Motorsport
A. Pulvirenti (EMX250)
Sadovschi (EMX250)
Aglietti (EMX250)

Door: Steven van Kempen/KEMCO

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1/10/2025 1:03am

So if i take the list of Kemco this is what we now have in MX2:

All GPs:

Simon Langenfelder (MX2)
Sacha Coenen (MX2)
Simon Langenfelder (MX2)
Sacha Coenen (MX2)
Cas Valk (MX2)
Maxime Grau (MX2)
Quentin Prunières (MX2)
Thibault Benistant (MX2)
Rick Elzinga (MX2)
Kārlis Albert Reišulis (MX2)
Mathis Valin (MX2)
Tom Guyon (MX2)
Kay Karssemakers (MX2)
Ferruccio Zanchi (MX2)
Valerio Lata (MX2)
David Braceras (MX2)
Kay de Wolf (MX2)
Liam Everts (MX2)
Camden McLellan (MX2)
Guillem Farres (MX2)
Jens Walvoort (MX2)
Oriol Oliver (MX2)

European rounds:

Julius Mikula (MX2)
Saad Soulimani (MX2)
Paolo Lugana (MX2)
Martin Michelis (MX2)
Filip Olsson (MX2)
Samuel Nilsson (MX2)
Magnus Smith (MX2)
Oscar Brix (MX2)


Couple of wildcards:

Jan Krug (MX2)
Mike Gwerder (MX2)


The group riders who do just a couple wildcards will end up being 10+ riders and then at Lommel, Teutschenthal and Loket we should have some EMX250 riders wildcarding as well since there is no emx250 round.

It looks like more mx2 riders compared to last year at this point, but maybe that just feels like this because there are no injuries at the moment. 

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1/10/2025 2:32am

Rumors of a split between Karssmakers and Riley Kawasaki...

Not a good sign for Guyon, if you ask me.

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1/10/2025 4:36am

What happened with Benjamin Garib? I take it there was no oppurtunity for him in the MXGP paddock but did he try to put anything together in the US?

1/10/2025 6:38am
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What happened with Benjamin Garib? I take it there was no oppurtunity for him in the MXGP paddock but did he try to put anything together...

What happened with Benjamin Garib? I take it there was no oppurtunity for him in the MXGP paddock but did he try to put anything together in the US?

Brazilian championship in 2025.

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1/10/2025 7:17am

Kind of a shame. I expected a bit more from him last year after some of the results in 23, but he is a pretty good rider

1/11/2025 4:09am

Rumors of a split between Karssmakers and Riley Kawasaki...

Not a good sign for Guyon, if you ask me.

Guyon removed the announcement from his Instagram and doesn't mention Riley anymore.

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