The 350 out-powered the 450's...

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7/4/2010 2:24pm
bobby397 wrote:
hopefully AC222 will come over next year and show what he can do on the bike, alessi is seems to be having some personal issues! its...
hopefully AC222 will come over next year and show what he can do on the bike, alessi is seems to be having some personal issues! its not the bike......
Last time he won was the USGP this year !
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7/4/2010 2:28pm
Sunhouse wrote:
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help...
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help produce the bike. ALessi and AC are both riding works bikes. Hell, the 350 wasn´t even produced to the public back when the 350 was introduced to the public in pre season races anyway.
Stop whining, ALessi has physical problems atm, which I hope he will figure out.
AC rules on the 350, and would do so anywhere
Nice theory but KTM used their one time exemption years ago.
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7/4/2010 2:39pm
Sunhouse wrote:
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help...
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help produce the bike. ALessi and AC are both riding works bikes. Hell, the 350 wasn´t even produced to the public back when the 350 was introduced to the public in pre season races anyway.
Stop whining, ALessi has physical problems atm, which I hope he will figure out.
AC rules on the 350, and would do so anywhere
I think the bike is under-powered and it is evident when you see how Alessi gave the world champ a run for his money at Glen Hellen but is getting waxed in the Nationals. Things that make you go hhmmmm.
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7/4/2010 2:44pm
Sunhouse wrote:
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help...
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help produce the bike. ALessi and AC are both riding works bikes. Hell, the 350 wasn´t even produced to the public back when the 350 was introduced to the public in pre season races anyway.
Stop whining, ALessi has physical problems atm, which I hope he will figure out.
AC rules on the 350, and would do so anywhere
Eywa wrote:
I think the bike is under-powered and it is evident when you see how Alessi gave the world champ a run for his money at Glen...
I think the bike is under-powered and it is evident when you see how Alessi gave the world champ a run for his money at Glen Hellen but is getting waxed in the Nationals. Things that make you go hhmmmm.
When did that happen?

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Sunhouse wrote:
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help...
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help produce the bike. ALessi and AC are both riding works bikes. Hell, the 350 wasn´t even produced to the public back when the 350 was introduced to the public in pre season races anyway.
Stop whining, ALessi has physical problems atm, which I hope he will figure out.
AC rules on the 350, and would do so anywhere
Eywa wrote:
I think the bike is under-powered and it is evident when you see how Alessi gave the world champ a run for his money at Glen...
I think the bike is under-powered and it is evident when you see how Alessi gave the world champ a run for his money at Glen Hellen but is getting waxed in the Nationals. Things that make you go hhmmmm.
M-M wrote:
When did that happen?
Im just comparing the results of Alessi when racing against the world champ at Glen Helen compared to how he is doing against stiffer compition and faster, more powerful bikes in the AMA Nationals, since he raced in both series, his results could be used a a barometer.
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Bookmark wrote:
Thats because Cairoli's KTM in not a 350. FIM does not have a rule keeping teams from changing the bore and stroke, Cairoli is getting holeshots...
Thats because Cairoli's KTM in not a 350. FIM does not have a rule keeping teams from changing the bore and stroke, Cairoli is getting holeshots and is leading the points.
Alessi's KTM is a 350. AMA has a rule that say's teams can not change the bore a stoke. Alessi is getting smoked off the start gate and on tracks were ther's traction.

You can't look at the MX-1 class and compare that to the AMA nationals. The rules are way different. They allow works bikes in Europe.
edub wrote:
Saying the 350 is no 350 means KTM cheats and guys like Pit and Stefan are cheaters. You should think of these consequences of your statement...
Saying the 350 is no 350 means KTM cheats and guys like Pit and Stefan are cheaters. You should think of these consequences of your statement.

You guys are just dreaming and far away the reality. You probably still think the earth is a disk.

Just call the 350 technical progress and accept the truth - the 350 is a 350!
OK, I think I explained it pretty clearly. In Europe, the FIM rules allow the team's to change the bore and stroke and in America, the AMA does not let the team's change to bore and stroke. I never called anyone a cheater. I do think you didn't read my post and jump on your soap box right away. Try to read what people post and do your best to understand what they write.

Yes, it's true, Cairoli's 2009 Yamaha was a 400cc engine. He thought it worked better, because he could race it the whole moto. This is why his choise to race the 350 this year was easy. KTM punched his 350 out to a 400 and he has the same type of bike that he won the Championship on the year before.

Alessi on the other hand can't switch to the 450 now. It's too late. He had to make that choise before the 2010 outdoor series started and they will not let him switch now. All the parts had to be ordered for the 350 and if he wanted to switch to the 450 now, he wouldn't have all the factory parts he would need. Plus the 450 doesn't have linkage and we all know how important that is. We won't even go there at this point. Poor Mike Alessi has made his choise and he chose the 350 and now he has to deal with getting bad starts and pulled on deep tracks.
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7/5/2010 1:20am
munsch121 wrote:
Comparing 2 different riders on the same bike doesn't mean shit IMO. The ONLY THING I am sure of is, last year mike was the guy...
Comparing 2 different riders on the same bike doesn't mean shit IMO. The ONLY THING I am sure of is, last year mike was the guy, the year before that...the other guy. This year he changed bikes and is an "also ran" top ten guy......
2 different riders, 2 different bikes, 2 different set ups, 2 different series, 2 different continents, 2 different sets of competitors, 2 different results.

Why bother comparing?

And pmcc a better title to your thread would've been 'Cairoli nails another holeshot'
7/5/2010 2:19am
Myke wrote:
Cairoli's bike is a "works" bike not the same as Alessi's bike.

I do still think it's close to 350 cc's tho.
All this "Works" bs?? the two 350's are not that different at all,AC. runs more DeCarli stuff and is clever on set up and adapts,The GP's run lower octane fuel too,Mikey looks like he's got a ton of issues it seems
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Eywa wrote:
Im just comparing the results of Alessi when racing against the world champ at Glen Helen compared to how he is doing against stiffer compition and...
Im just comparing the results of Alessi when racing against the world champ at Glen Helen compared to how he is doing against stiffer compition and faster, more powerful bikes in the AMA Nationals, since he raced in both series, his results could be used a a barometer.
I loved the movie too man,

But fuckin really!?!?
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pmcc wrote:
...Cairoli holeshoted that 1st moto by about 5 bike lengths!!! The futures bright the future is orange
The first moto looked pretty muddy to me...

'Riders were faced with tricky conditions following heavy overnight rain on the circuit and high humidity on race day that hung over the track in the form of mist. Visibility was an issue and a number of riders opted to discard their goggles during the races.'
KTM website
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Sunhouse wrote:
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help...
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help produce the bike. ALessi and AC are both riding works bikes. Hell, the 350 wasn´t even produced to the public back when the 350 was introduced to the public in pre season races anyway.
Stop whining, ALessi has physical problems atm, which I hope he will figure out.
AC rules on the 350, and would do so anywhere
No, KTM already used their "Exemption Rule". Mike is running a production based KTM 350!
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Eywa wrote:
Im just comparing the results of Alessi when racing against the world champ at Glen Helen compared to how he is doing against stiffer compition and...
Im just comparing the results of Alessi when racing against the world champ at Glen Helen compared to how he is doing against stiffer compition and faster, more powerful bikes in the AMA Nationals, since he raced in both series, his results could be used a a barometer.
Crush wrote:
I loved the movie too man,

But fuckin really!?!?
I wouldnt be talking if I were you, look at your own avatar. lol
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7/5/2010 10:20am
Bookmark wrote:
Thats because Cairoli's KTM in not a 350. FIM does not have a rule keeping teams from changing the bore and stroke, Cairoli is getting holeshots...
Thats because Cairoli's KTM in not a 350. FIM does not have a rule keeping teams from changing the bore and stroke, Cairoli is getting holeshots and is leading the points.
Alessi's KTM is a 350. AMA has a rule that say's teams can not change the bore a stoke. Alessi is getting smoked off the start gate and on tracks were ther's traction.

You can't look at the MX-1 class and compare that to the AMA nationals. The rules are way different. They allow works bikes in Europe.
edub wrote:
Saying the 350 is no 350 means KTM cheats and guys like Pit and Stefan are cheaters. You should think of these consequences of your statement...
Saying the 350 is no 350 means KTM cheats and guys like Pit and Stefan are cheaters. You should think of these consequences of your statement.

You guys are just dreaming and far away the reality. You probably still think the earth is a disk.

Just call the 350 technical progress and accept the truth - the 350 is a 350!
Bookmark wrote:
OK, I think I explained it pretty clearly. In Europe, the FIM rules allow the team's to change the bore and stroke and in America, the...
OK, I think I explained it pretty clearly. In Europe, the FIM rules allow the team's to change the bore and stroke and in America, the AMA does not let the team's change to bore and stroke. I never called anyone a cheater. I do think you didn't read my post and jump on your soap box right away. Try to read what people post and do your best to understand what they write.

Yes, it's true, Cairoli's 2009 Yamaha was a 400cc engine. He thought it worked better, because he could race it the whole moto. This is why his choise to race the 350 this year was easy. KTM punched his 350 out to a 400 and he has the same type of bike that he won the Championship on the year before.

Alessi on the other hand can't switch to the 450 now. It's too late. He had to make that choise before the 2010 outdoor series started and they will not let him switch now. All the parts had to be ordered for the 350 and if he wanted to switch to the 450 now, he wouldn't have all the factory parts he would need. Plus the 450 doesn't have linkage and we all know how important that is. We won't even go there at this point. Poor Mike Alessi has made his choise and he chose the 350 and now he has to deal with getting bad starts and pulled on deep tracks.
Wrong.

Per the AMA Rule Book:

3.3 Engines
a. Engines are restricted to a single cylinder.
b. Engine displacement shall be recorded in cubic centimeters.
c. Supercharging or turbo charging is not permitted.
d. Cylinder bore may be increased to achieve the displacement limit on
motorcycles homologated for competition, provided that any kits or
parts used to increase engine displacement (to the approved class
limit) must use items that have been approved by AMA Pro Racing.

e. Stroke must remain the same as the homologated model.
f. Material and castings of cylinders, cylinder heads, and crankcases
must be the same as an originally approved model of the same
manufacturer. Material may be added or removed from these items.
Cylinder liners or coating may be replaced or added provided
the original cylinder casting is utilized.
g. For 4-stroke engines the original intake and exhaust valve angle
must remain the same as on the homologated model.
h. Type of cooling system (water, oil or air) must remain as homologated.
i. Fuel injection is permitted only if it is standard equipment on the
homologated model.
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7/5/2010 10:23am
Bookmark wrote:
Thats because Cairoli's KTM in not a 350. FIM does not have a rule keeping teams from changing the bore and stroke, Cairoli is getting holeshots...
Thats because Cairoli's KTM in not a 350. FIM does not have a rule keeping teams from changing the bore and stroke, Cairoli is getting holeshots and is leading the points.
Alessi's KTM is a 350. AMA has a rule that say's teams can not change the bore a stoke. Alessi is getting smoked off the start gate and on tracks were ther's traction.

You can't look at the MX-1 class and compare that to the AMA nationals. The rules are way different. They allow works bikes in Europe.
edub wrote:
Saying the 350 is no 350 means KTM cheats and guys like Pit and Stefan are cheaters. You should think of these consequences of your statement...
Saying the 350 is no 350 means KTM cheats and guys like Pit and Stefan are cheaters. You should think of these consequences of your statement.

You guys are just dreaming and far away the reality. You probably still think the earth is a disk.

Just call the 350 technical progress and accept the truth - the 350 is a 350!
Bookmark wrote:
OK, I think I explained it pretty clearly. In Europe, the FIM rules allow the team's to change the bore and stroke and in America, the...
OK, I think I explained it pretty clearly. In Europe, the FIM rules allow the team's to change the bore and stroke and in America, the AMA does not let the team's change to bore and stroke. I never called anyone a cheater. I do think you didn't read my post and jump on your soap box right away. Try to read what people post and do your best to understand what they write.

Yes, it's true, Cairoli's 2009 Yamaha was a 400cc engine. He thought it worked better, because he could race it the whole moto. This is why his choise to race the 350 this year was easy. KTM punched his 350 out to a 400 and he has the same type of bike that he won the Championship on the year before.

Alessi on the other hand can't switch to the 450 now. It's too late. He had to make that choise before the 2010 outdoor series started and they will not let him switch now. All the parts had to be ordered for the 350 and if he wanted to switch to the 450 now, he wouldn't have all the factory parts he would need. Plus the 450 doesn't have linkage and we all know how important that is. We won't even go there at this point. Poor Mike Alessi has made his choise and he chose the 350 and now he has to deal with getting bad starts and pulled on deep tracks.
That is not what the rule book says.
From the AMA rule book.
3.3 Engines
a. Engines are restricted to a single cylinder.
b. Engine displacement shall be recorded in cubic centimeters.
c. Supercharging or turbo charging is not permitted.
d. Cylinder bore may be increased to achieve the displacement limit on
motorcycles homologated for competition, provided that any kits or
parts used to increase engine displacement (to the approved class
limit) must use items that have been approved by AMA Pro Racing.
e. Stroke must remain the same as the homologated model.
f. Material and castings of cylinders, cylinder heads, and crankcases
must be the same as an originally approved model of the same
manufacturer. Material may be added or removed from these items.
Cylinder liners or coating may be replaced or added provided
the original cylinder casting is utilized.
g. For 4-stroke engines the original intake and exhaust valve angle
must remain the same as on the homologated model.
h. Type of cooling system (water, oil or air) must remain as homologated.
i. Fuel injection is permitted only if it is standard equipment on the
homologated model
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7/5/2010 10:32am
Sunhouse wrote:
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help...
This is BS. Alessi´s bike was KTMs use of th exemption rule, which means you can ride a works bike for an entire season to help produce the bike. ALessi and AC are both riding works bikes. Hell, the 350 wasn´t even produced to the public back when the 350 was introduced to the public in pre season races anyway.
Stop whining, ALessi has physical problems atm, which I hope he will figure out.
AC rules on the 350, and would do so anywhere
Racer111 wrote:
No, KTM already used their "Exemption Rule". Mike is running a production based KTM 350!
When? 250f?
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Eywa wrote:
I think the bike is under-powered and it is evident when you see how Alessi gave the world champ a run for his money at Glen...
I think the bike is under-powered and it is evident when you see how Alessi gave the world champ a run for his money at Glen Hellen but is getting waxed in the Nationals. Things that make you go hhmmmm.
M-M wrote:
When did that happen?
Eywa wrote:
Im just comparing the results of Alessi when racing against the world champ at Glen Helen compared to how he is doing against stiffer compition and...
Im just comparing the results of Alessi when racing against the world champ at Glen Helen compared to how he is doing against stiffer compition and faster, more powerful bikes in the AMA Nationals, since he raced in both series, his results could be used a a barometer.
I'm sure Mike has won a moto this year Wink
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M-M wrote:
When did that happen?
Eywa wrote:
Im just comparing the results of Alessi when racing against the world champ at Glen Helen compared to how he is doing against stiffer compition and...
Im just comparing the results of Alessi when racing against the world champ at Glen Helen compared to how he is doing against stiffer compition and faster, more powerful bikes in the AMA Nationals, since he raced in both series, his results could be used a a barometer.
M-M wrote:
I'm sure Mike has won a moto this year Wink
We all know winning is all about confidence. And Mike came out of the box with alot of it. He didnt have to worry about supercross, he could focus on outdoors, his training and his bike set up. At the Glen Helen GP he scored a 2-4 and at the Hangtown opener he was able to score a 4-1. But since then his confidence in himself and in his bike has deteriorated. IMHO it is because he has realized that his bike is under-powered and he cannot hang with the AMA elite on the power-robbing tracks of America, at least thats my theory and I'm sticking with it.
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7/5/2010 3:03pm Edited Date/Time 7/5/2010 3:08pm
Sunhouse,

KTM used their one time "Exemption Rule" with Lance Smail back in 1997 with the KTM 550 4 stroke in AMA SX! First time a 4 stroke ever qualified for a 250 Main Event. Yamaha used theirs with with Henry and the YZ 400F, Suzuki with Tortelli and the RMZ 450, Honda with Ryno and the CRF 450, and KTM with Smail. To my knowledge Kawasaki has never used their exemption yet. All the 250F's were intoduced as production based models because the exemptions were used up (not Kawi, they just waited until the production bike was ready). Here is a link to Lance Smail's 1997 KTM 550 4-Stroke! Pretty sweet looking bike.



http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/ktm_four_stroke
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edub wrote:
Saying the 350 is no 350 means KTM cheats and guys like Pit and Stefan are cheaters. You should think of these consequences of your statement...
Saying the 350 is no 350 means KTM cheats and guys like Pit and Stefan are cheaters. You should think of these consequences of your statement.

You guys are just dreaming and far away the reality. You probably still think the earth is a disk.

Just call the 350 technical progress and accept the truth - the 350 is a 350!
Bookmark wrote:
OK, I think I explained it pretty clearly. In Europe, the FIM rules allow the team's to change the bore and stroke and in America, the...
OK, I think I explained it pretty clearly. In Europe, the FIM rules allow the team's to change the bore and stroke and in America, the AMA does not let the team's change to bore and stroke. I never called anyone a cheater. I do think you didn't read my post and jump on your soap box right away. Try to read what people post and do your best to understand what they write.

Yes, it's true, Cairoli's 2009 Yamaha was a 400cc engine. He thought it worked better, because he could race it the whole moto. This is why his choise to race the 350 this year was easy. KTM punched his 350 out to a 400 and he has the same type of bike that he won the Championship on the year before.

Alessi on the other hand can't switch to the 450 now. It's too late. He had to make that choise before the 2010 outdoor series started and they will not let him switch now. All the parts had to be ordered for the 350 and if he wanted to switch to the 450 now, he wouldn't have all the factory parts he would need. Plus the 450 doesn't have linkage and we all know how important that is. We won't even go there at this point. Poor Mike Alessi has made his choise and he chose the 350 and now he has to deal with getting bad starts and pulled on deep tracks.
moto329 wrote:
Wrong. Per the AMA Rule Book: 3.3 Engines a. Engines are restricted to a single cylinder. b. Engine displacement shall be recorded in cubic centimeters. c...
Wrong.

Per the AMA Rule Book:

3.3 Engines
a. Engines are restricted to a single cylinder.
b. Engine displacement shall be recorded in cubic centimeters.
c. Supercharging or turbo charging is not permitted.
d. Cylinder bore may be increased to achieve the displacement limit on
motorcycles homologated for competition, provided that any kits or
parts used to increase engine displacement (to the approved class
limit) must use items that have been approved by AMA Pro Racing.

e. Stroke must remain the same as the homologated model.
f. Material and castings of cylinders, cylinder heads, and crankcases
must be the same as an originally approved model of the same
manufacturer. Material may be added or removed from these items.
Cylinder liners or coating may be replaced or added provided
the original cylinder casting is utilized.
g. For 4-stroke engines the original intake and exhaust valve angle
must remain the same as on the homologated model.
h. Type of cooling system (water, oil or air) must remain as homologated.
i. Fuel injection is permitted only if it is standard equipment on the
homologated model.
So what big-bore kit has been approved for use by the AMA?
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7/5/2010 3:59pm Edited Date/Time 7/5/2010 4:00pm
kaboom645 wrote:
You guys do relise that KTM is also making a 450sx in addition to the 350. Same bike but without EFI. If the 450 is homologated...
You guys do relise that KTM is also making a 450sx in addition to the 350. Same bike but without EFI. If the 450 is homologated, and MA800 thought he was underpowered, what makes you think he wouldnt switch to the 450. Who is to say they havent switched to the 450, and just havent made it public yet. As long as the 450 is homologated, MA could race the 450 at tracks where the extra power would be needed, and switch back to the 350 for the tracks that favor a lighter more flickable bike..

A more realistic senario is that MA is horrible at setting up bikes, and hasnt found a setup that works well.. In years past, he had other team mates that were on the same bike, plus a previous model year bike that was similar to the one he was on so he had alot of resources to get a base setting of what works. The 2011 KTM is an all new bike, so there are no "last years settings" to go by for a base setting. I also dont believe that other than a few test riders, there are no other riders in the US on the 350. IMO Europe doesnt really apply due to the difference in tracks and the rules. A perfect example of this was in 2009 when all the Honda riders were literally scared to ride their bikes and struggled the first part of the season till they found a setup that worked for them
Your an idiot to make accusations like that without doing even a little snip-it of homework. The engines are entirely different, it would be very obvious if he made the switch.



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Eywa wrote:
I wouldnt be talking if I were you, look at your own avatar. lol
Dude, it's a monkey flipping the bird, that shit is funny... and Crush has been my nickname in real life forever...

In no way does that compare to calling yourself Eywa, having some blue monkey avatar eye as your actual avatar, another one in your sig and then naming your location as a fictional planet from the movie...

Like I said, I loved the movie too but really... Are you just really excited to get a change from your Darth Vader costume?!?! hahaha
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Alessi has been riding this bike since the Florida Winter Series. If it isn't set up properly by now it never will be.
7/5/2010 9:27pm
Eywa wrote:
I wouldnt be talking if I were you, look at your own avatar. lol
Crush wrote:
Dude, it's a monkey flipping the bird, that shit is funny... and Crush has been my nickname in real life forever... In no way does that...
Dude, it's a monkey flipping the bird, that shit is funny... and Crush has been my nickname in real life forever...

In no way does that compare to calling yourself Eywa, having some blue monkey avatar eye as your actual avatar, another one in your sig and then naming your location as a fictional planet from the movie...

Like I said, I loved the movie too but really... Are you just really excited to get a change from your Darth Vader costume?!?! hahaha
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Faceaz wrote:
So what big-bore kit has been approved for use by the AMA?
I have no idea if there is an approved big-bore kit. I was merely pointing out the fact that he was wrong in saying that it is not allowed at all.
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7/6/2010 12:06am Edited Date/Time 7/6/2010 12:07am
Eywa wrote:
I wouldnt be talking if I were you, look at your own avatar. lol
Crush wrote:
Dude, it's a monkey flipping the bird, that shit is funny... and Crush has been my nickname in real life forever... In no way does that...
Dude, it's a monkey flipping the bird, that shit is funny... and Crush has been my nickname in real life forever...

In no way does that compare to calling yourself Eywa, having some blue monkey avatar eye as your actual avatar, another one in your sig and then naming your location as a fictional planet from the movie...

Like I said, I loved the movie too but really... Are you just really excited to get a change from your Darth Vader costume?!?! hahaha
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Hey that nami, or navi chick he is banging in the movie is hot. Give props where they are due.
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Eywa wrote:
I wouldnt be talking if I were you, look at your own avatar. lol
Crush wrote:
Dude, it's a monkey flipping the bird, that shit is funny... and Crush has been my nickname in real life forever... In no way does that...
Dude, it's a monkey flipping the bird, that shit is funny... and Crush has been my nickname in real life forever...

In no way does that compare to calling yourself Eywa, having some blue monkey avatar eye as your actual avatar, another one in your sig and then naming your location as a fictional planet from the movie...

Like I said, I loved the movie too but really... Are you just really excited to get a change from your Darth Vader costume?!?! hahaha
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I thought the whole avatar is an avatar would get someones attention, and blue monkeys pull the chicks.

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