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He sounds like a fence, hopefully he hasn't snorted, er, spent the cash yet.
I'm sure you've looked but Curtis Crawford still has his profile up and his only friend on FB is "Shawn Topnotch". Shawn Topnotch has some pretty well known names amongst his FB friends.
Mr Louisville and I would be persuading him to give the money back.
Interesting story! Sorry you're out the cash, that's terrible. Are you sure the dealership didn't steal the bike from you?
Yeah, i’m now assuming Curtis Crawford and Shawn Guerette to be the same guy. He was definitely doing some pretty good name dropping within the industry while I was at his shop, but I’ll keep those names to myself so as not too implicate anyone’s association with him.
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😂 No, the cops were there waiting for the bike when I arrived at the dealership.
I would think there is a possibility you have legal title to the bike due to negligence in the original transaction. Not sure how that would work if the bike was stolen by an employee.
I'm still at a loss for how he had a title in the first place.
CA dealerships file a report of sale with the DMV when they process paperwork, but they wouldn't let that bike roll without payment. He must have paid them fraudulently, then by the time the check bounced or the credit card got rescinded, the title paperwork was already at the DMV. I'm just surprised nobody at the dealership went looking for the bike before he had time to get the title and sell the thing.
Thieves suck. I'd light that dude's business up with the BBB, on Facebook and all other forms of social media, take out an ad in the paper, and stand on his sidewalk with a bullhorn calling him a liar and a thief until he paid me back.
As I mentioned, it turns out the pink slip is a fake. Technology and thieves are always a step ahead of the rest of us.
Again the dealer would have to take me to court if they wanted the bike back. I would have no interest in losing $9K to make up for the dealers screw up.
I don't know the details of course, but if the title is real, and the dealer had transferred it, it seems the dealership should do far more than a $400 discount. The bike can't be sold as new now, plus they just got a bike back that was for all intents and purposes gone. So it seems fair for them to assume some of the loss, at least a few grand, and work out a deal with you. Plus, it is good PR that they worked with an honest person, instead of letting you take 100% of the hit. The dealer you bought it from should refund your money too, but, being a small shop, they may not have the cash take 100% of the hit either, and may not know that the bike was stolen. The big question in my mind is whether the pink slip is real.
Ideally, the thief gets caught, and all of the money is recouped, but that's a long shot.
I'm not a lawyer, but this seems fair to me.
If the shop the bike was originally bought from didn't report it stolen, then they should have no recourse, and the bike should remain yours. If they didn't report it stolen, then how would the second shop know it was hot? If the title is real, If it were me, I'd speak to an attorney.
If they did report it stolen, then the second shop should've known, and not bought or sold the bike. It seems they should be liable.
In any case, it seems fair that the 2 shops should make things right for you, and that you should end up with the bike, at worst case, by buying it again, but at a steep, steep discount.
Keep us posted.
Is that what the DMV told you?
So why the hell are you not at his business location raising hell with him to give your money back ??
If he's not giving you the $9500 back, he's going to be giving you $9500 and lawyers fees.
This diabolical criminal mastermind can replicate a vehicle title but uses his real name and business to advertise a stolen bike? On facebook in the same local area it was stolen from? and then gives you a sales receipt listing the place it was stolen from?
Did you notice the seller was walking weird due to his giant balls?
Because I was told not to by the police. Once the police are involved, which was the minute I found out it was stolen, I’ve been trying to stick to protocol. Trust me, it’s taking everything out of me!
Insane, right? All of this gave me confidence in the transaction at the time. How the hell he thought he was going to get away with it, all things considered, is way beyond me!
Big balls indeed!
Well said.
How is the dealer not 100% responsible for this? You purchased a bike in good faith from a motorcycle shop. The bike, if titled, should have gone into the shops name and then transferred to you into your name. The fact the shop wanted cash only is really strange. A legit MC shop receiving and then selling stolen goods sounds like a real scammer.
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I was hoping for something along those lines, but unfortunately not.
I have a pretty decent social media presence and would be stoked to shout from the rooftops if someone were to step up in securing me a “legal” Stark for a killer deal!
Maybe Anton will check this thread!😂
It's good marketing that emphasizes the theft prevention benefit of a Stark. Hopefully they take notice of the opportunity and hook you up.
As stated previously, if your Kawasaki is stolen you'll never get it back........unless they return it because the clutch doesn't work, suspension sucks, and something breaks every ride 😅
Coming up with a story to try and guilt a manufacturer or dealer into giving you a better deal on a bike is wild. Can’t say I’ve ever seen someone go to this length before.
Agreed. I would be a serious thorn in his side until I was made whole on the deal.
Looking at a few reviews, it seems like the original dealer also has a reputation as a bit of a swindler. With the paperwork fully processed through the orginal dealer, but no vehicle unlock, I am wondering if there is more fraud that is going on than just whatever was happening with the reseller
I’d like to think you’re joking. Feel free to contact Coyne motorsports in banning California to verify the “story”
I would be concerned the police will be satisfied that the stolen unit was returned to the original owner, and move on. You'll get a call or letter in a week or so saying the matter between you and Top Notch is a civil matter. The more time that passes the further you get from your $9500 cash.
The DMV can charge a dealer with a felony for a few different things. I would think they should be involved as well.
....why would a guy knowingly with a stolen bike sell it sell it using his real name and at his business? Maybe he bought the bike not knowing it was stolen too.....
Did you check the vin number yourself? If you didn't, how do you know it was stolen. The guy bought I from probably didn't have any idea either. Sorry about what happened.
Did the dealer have any proof that the bike was actually stolen? Seems like the guy you bought it from has more proof he owned the bike than the dealership has that it was stolen from them.
Did someone break in and steal just the one bike? Did he write a fake check that the dealer somehow didnt find out before giving him a title and the bike? Maybe this was some sort of demo unit they gave to the guy to help get more eyes on it and the relationship soured and he sold the bike instead of giving it back?
Is it possible he didn’t know it was stolen and coyne had a disgruntled employee that ‘sold’ it and pocketed the cash?
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