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Everyone actually making the tough decisions regarding the war in Ukraine should just come in here to find out what should be done to end it.
He sees this thing as a regional conflict and the people are half Russian of sorts. It's Ukraine leadership that has gone off the rails and has been corrupted. None of this would have happened if they weren't corrupted by money and Biden, now it's done, and they are losing. Zelensky better enjoy his mansion and lavish lifestyle now because he won't be breathing much longer. On our side every dollar and corruption need to be investigated down to the last cent. Putin gave plenty warning with gear amassing on his border, and were working on a deal before the middle finger was given to Russia.
Unfortunately money is where growth comes from and I do think this move to join the EU/NATO is about growth, but all of us and every business is constantly seeking growth, so that can't be a negative by default, nor should it automatically be assumed as corruption.
I do agree that they are losing in some regard, but winning in others. Ultimately the world doesn't view murder as an appropriate response to wanting to join the west, unless you're living in the east, which eastern authoritarianism shrinks a little bit each day. Women can even drive now in most/all Muslim countries. That wasn't the case ten years ago. Even the backwards east becomes a little more west little by little.
It does strike me as odd to complain about Zelensky's wealth and Ukraine corruption, because you know who's invading their country? Are you concerned with Putin's wealth and Russia's corruption?
Warning doesn't negate crime though. You can tell someone that you'll punch them if they say mean things again, but that doesn't somehow absolve you of committing assault. You do realize that everything you're unhappy about with Ukraine, you're weighing it against murder, illegally crossing borders and murdering people. That's pretty hardcore go-straight-to-hell-mortal-sin kind of stuff.
You seem like a nice enough person who cares about people and stuff but allow me to give a little advice. If Joe Biden tells you to go into a Hells Angel's clubhouse and do some good because he's got your back, DON'T!
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Lol, you definitely don't have to worry about that!
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I guess all those washing machine and refrigerator chips paid off in the long run.
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“Don’t”
I made the mistake of watching one of those you tube vids about what happens after the dust settles after the nuclea bombs are dropped. It just doesn't seem possible. Can it happen? Yup. Is it inevitable? Yes. At some point in human history it's gonna. It's in our nature. Its genetic. Will it happen during my remaining years? Maybe. Is this how people felt during the Cuban missile crisis? Im guessing it was much worse then. Right on your doorstep.Im canadian. I hope to fuck that there are some sane people hanging around Putin. For those who support Him are you worried? Can you admit it that you support his aggression? I understand that your country supported or started the 2014 coup or whatever it was. I get hes pissed about Ukraine wanting to be part of nato. But I will never quite understand this new found love of Russia from right of center America.
Why would he use nukes when he is winning? It’s looking ever more likely that Russia will eventually achieve its objectives.
What is inevitable is the Ukraine war ending, perhaps Russia with more land. Why can't we just cut to the chase, skip the killing/spending, and start where it might end.
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For the 8,000,000th fucking time…opposition to our involvement in Ukraine isn’t automatic support of Putin.
It's certainly a reduction of resistance/opposition to Putin's desires. If you're blocking the front door to an Apple store when a thief wants in, but then you choose to stand aside, I suppose that would also not be supporting thieves. Quite a murky area to exist in.
Same old bullshit. If you oppose a million dollar football field at the local middle school you hate kids too.
You're equating a million dollar football field to people being murdered...?
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It's an analogy, that doesn't make them equal. That should be obvious.
Congrats, though on finally condensing a thought to a single sentence.
Man you have some stupid takes.
It's important to be philosophically consistent as a matter of honesty, so I test everything against other situations to make sure I'm not forming opinions corrupted by things that make me happy. If someone happens to only like the things they support and dislike the things they don't support, it's virtually guaranteed that they're being dishonest. It takes effort to fight that selfishness.
When this whole thing started ,the united States said they would provide aid to Ukraine to defend itself from an INVADING russian troops . In the typical fashion the goal posts are being moved yet again and the same people are falling for it again.
In your analogy, unless the person is a police officer or security guard, it’s not their job to stop the thief. They may despise thieves, but they have no duty to place themself in harms way to stop them, and thus step aside.
Just like it’s not the US’s responsibility to stop Putin, whether the US likes him or not.
Not our circus, not our monkeys.
No I am equating it as a jump to conclusions. It is quite simple really. And as far as the murder you insist none of us care about, if the USA quit funding this catastrophic war the murdering would very well cease within days. Nobody wants to see anyone die, and your insistence that people not wanting to fund this war do want deaths is an explotation of the circumstance, jumping to conclusions, and intellectual laziness. Contrary to your assumption, many people who do not want the USA funding this bloodshed see a cease in the USA's spending as a logical way to stop the bloodshed. Also contrary to what you insist, one certain way to maintain or increase the murdering in the Ukraine is for the USA to continue sponsoring the war. Which brings me to my point, if you are insistent on foreign powers financing, weaponizing, and encouraging this war to continue indefinitely, you in fact are the one who enjoys the murder and destruction of war.
Like I've said, that position is somewhat okay as long as it's consistent. I can find some degree of appreciation for pacifism, at least from an theoretical/ideological perspective if nothing else. If it were consistent, you'd definitely be against the US spending to support Israel. Obviously Israel needs to grossly improve their civilian casualty rates, but I support spending US $$$ to help Israel root out Hamas and Hamas supporters. I feel that I'm being consistent, but I'm certainly open to hearing a different view if you're like to explain.
Update: Ukrainian parliament is scared to meet because of the new weapon system and NATO has called an emergency meeting with Ukrainian officials Tuesday.
Also, you're mistaken about the Russian invasion ending without the US. The EU has a much greater appreciation of the importance of not bending over for Putin than we do, so they've committed more than fifty billion to Ukraine through 2025 and 2026 with another fifty billion available in loans. Even though the US passed a sixty billion dollar bill, we've only sent six billion this year and Ukraine is getting by ok.
One nice thing about the US not supporting Ukraine is that our restrictions are gone, because the EU isn't messing around and they're not putting many/any restrictions on them, so Ukraine will then be free to strike Russian oil, which is Russia's main source of income. It will cause gas prices shoot up again, so I'm sure that will be part of the next admin's decision to continue support or not. Stopping support means raising gas prices for American consumers.
And if we think our 5% interest rates are bad, Russia's rates are at 21% to fund their invasion and one Ruble is worth less than one US penny. Our dollar is increasing in strength while helping Ukraine while Russia's Ruble is weakening. It's in Russia's best interest to go home. They're actually in a pretty weak position with very little room to save face.
You need to re-do your math. Ukraine has received $175 billion in US aid since 2022.
Isreal has received $120 billion in US aid since 1960.
I said this year.
Israel has nothing to do with Ukraine, again jumping to conclusions and intellectual laziness. Two entirely different scenarios.
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