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Me too.
Your not being honest with yourself if you dont acknowledge the possibility of pro Ukrainian propaganda being spewed as 'news', this is CLEARLY a two way street here. Your not being honest with yourself if you dont acknowledge the deep-rooted history of corruption in Ukrainian politics, and the very REAL issues of current U.S. politicians using Ukraine as a money making "rat hole" ("Wolf Of Wall Street" reference).
Irrelevant. Russia has been corrupt as fk for decades, but that wouldn't give anyone the right to cross their borders and murder their people, and I'd want my tax dollars to stop it.
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Corrupt and aggressive.
They didn’t stop with Chechnya, they didn’t stop with Georgia, they didn’t stop with Crimea, they didn’t stop with Donbass and they won’t stop with Ukraine.
But as they say Byke “Fuck Ukraine” for defending itself.
That doesn't sound right, The Russian Federation committed with the Budapest Memorandum that they would respect Ukrainian borders and not use force against Ukraine
More apologizing.
Who invaded who? Even after and while saying they wouldn't?
I don't. We have problems here to address, we have lives here to save. The Ukraine/Russia deal isn't ours. You want to save them I believe they are accepting donations and volunteers. As far as my family, I believe my great grand kids will be paying for the COVID cleanup without adding on the "defense" and rebuilding of Ukraine. Genocides are going on now all over the world, and will continue ad nauseum, yet Ukraine we are spending billions on, do you wonder why? The whole "Russia is bad" narrative is intellectual laziness and not the real and only reason.
Exactly. Somehow the narrative has become “if you don’t support defending Ukraine you’re pro Russia/Putin.”
It’s such an ignorant statement/position.
It’s entirely possible to despise Putin while still not supporting us sending billions and dragging us into a WWIII. Add in how corrupt our swamp and Zelenskyy are, as well as our own domestic issues (hurricanes, illegal immigraion, crime, addiction) and it’s all the more reason for us to stay the hell out. And no, that’s not pro-Putin, it’s pro-American.
Obama led a coup to overthrow the goverment in 2014. His affiliates have been in full power and locking horns with Putin since. The MSM never mentions that.
A trillion of our tax dollars later things look a little clearer.
God damn it, PNWMXer! You're a god damn genius! This is the most outstanding answer I have ever heard. You must have a goddamn IQ of 160. You are goddamn gifted, PNWMXer.
Listen up people.....
EDIT - blatantly ripped from Forest Gump for those not familiar.
I’m of the thought that the media lies about nearly everything. Therefore if the media says Putin is bad I think the opposite. US media has zero credibility left after the Covid fuckery and the attempted tactical smearing of Donald Trump and others who threaten the string pullers. Nearly every place we’ve went to war has resources we want control of. Russia catches hell for selling them weapons to defend themselves. The round heads here believing the US is the doer of good have their heads so far up their ass it ain’t funny.
Apparently too much is invested, and they have got to get this sucker on because peace could break out in a couple months.
Are you consistent? Like should Israel be on their own, or do nations that hold western values, still have some value to us? It's somewhat okay as long as it's consistent, like we should standby and do nothing while the surrounding muslim nations attack the Jews and destroy our ability to have a friend/presence in the region.
I say somewhat okay because it's not exactly the Christian thing to do. The sin of Sloth includes Nihilism, standing by while terrible things are happening, having the means to help but choosing not to. From that perspective it's not great, but if you reject the concept of sins, then I suppose it absolves you of the moral duty to help people.
I'll continue to believe that murder/crime as a response to legal action is disgusting and will always oppose it. You are certainly welcome to feel otherwise. It's both the beauty and the grotesqueness of America.
Let’s also not forget that Biden and Putin go way, way back (long before Biden was President or even VP). There is every possibility that Biden has (in addition to the previously discussed topics) used this situation to settle a score with Putin before he closes the book on his political career. Unfortunately, that’s one of the worst, most self-centered reasons to wage war…whether directly, by proxy, or both if the proxy pulls us into a direct conflict.
What happened to Greens super shitty post where he called Kongols and idiot drama queen?
There was some pruning, this is the second time we've hit page four.
Are you saying this is an incorrect assesment?
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If we survive this, I'm sure we can find some dirt bikers to argue with you.
Russians now saying U.S. missile base in Poland is a fair target.
Putin is insanely paranoid. When was the last time the US/EU/NATO country attacked Russia?
I quoted Kongols insistence that it was an “ICBM” and his further rant about shit that went down in 1939…and if he removed that? Well, my post goes with it.
While we’re here you lying & mis-quoting little hater:
Where did I call him an idiot? What have you to contribute to the conversation of missile types and capabilities? I can not wait for the thrill of you even attempting to comment on the matter…it would be hilarious.
On the ther matter of “Bro, do you even ride?” Plllllease….go there, too…it’ll be fun.
Here’s another question: are you among the angry “resistance” that insists Kamala would have been better for democracy?
You had a point; they're arguing about what it was. Ukraine says ICBM but the US says it was something new.
You literally said to Kongols, "Hey Smart Guy? Here you go again with your little drama-queen 'where is America to help me' posts".
You a liar, bro.
Their new short-medium range “local-theatre” missile and judging by the re-entry system’s deployment “on the ground”…wow…what a piece of shit. It had multiple warheads that appeared to possibly be a from of scatter munitions or penetrating attempts… ad it looked pretty shitty from most evidence and reports.
In other words: if that’s them flexing? Our OPFOR systems analysts are laughing at them…& now we have operational data in the real world…on that system’s capacity and capability.
Here’s what Russia hath wrought by this latest deployment: re-targeting snd mission assessment by our SSGNs and other seriously capable assets in theater.
They’ve dragged NK into their shitty little war. They’ve deployed REAL “Theater of War” assets. If they don’t back down? The Donald will hurt them with a global shutdown on all things Russian, Chinese and all those little terrorist states aligned with them. Next up: more Iranian military industrial assets go “boom”. NK fires off another missile? It goes “boom” somewhere near apogee. As I write this, I’m guessing ABM assets are in route to the “Mediterranean Region”…for Russia’s next flex…when they utilize a ballistic arc, again…well, we’ll see. Btw, where’s their super cool and super effective “hyper sonic” system?
Dude, why would you say that? He literally called him a smart guy, and revered him as royalty. Sounds very complimentary to me.
Again…you’re attempting…poorly…to cover your lies.
“Idiot”? No. Kongol’s isn’t an idiot and was never called one.
You, on the other-hand?
While we’re here talking about you and your lies and your “look at me, the Victim!” pathological bullshit…
Whatever happened to those so-called threats you received in here via messaging? Where’s the truth to that little story…hmmmmmm…pumpkin?
I wish we spent less time talking about each other.
You 100% know you got caught calling a dude who's expressing fear about getting invaded an idiot drama-queen. A real man would admit it, but you, nah, you're taking the "panic typing to save face and flip it on Wombat" approach. Fuuuuuucking pathetic.
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