Best bikes to flip

burn1986 wrote:

Here’s a 99 CR125 for $1200. Still had the original tires and has been sitting for years. These 99s run better with later bodywork (opens up...

Here’s a 99 CR125 for $1200. Still had the original tires and has been sitting for years. These 99s run better with later bodywork (opens up airbox). Even so, with newer bodywork these are a pretty good ROI.

coopernicus wrote:

That's really nice and really cheap...That would be $2500 or more here!

burn1986 wrote:

Even though the 97-99 CR250s got a bad rap, they are pretty solid bikes with excellent motors. Plus, newer bodywork makes these look really good, and...

Even though the 97-99 CR250s got a bad rap, they are pretty solid bikes with excellent motors. Plus, newer bodywork makes these look really good, and you can get them cheap cheap. This is not the greatest example but…

01+ Suzukis look better with original bodywork instead of the ‘18+ bodywork. Even the 96-00 RMs are excellent resellers.

burn1986 wrote:

Even though the 97-99 CR250s got a bad rap, they are pretty solid bikes with excellent motors. Plus, newer bodywork makes these look really good, and...

Even though the 97-99 CR250s got a bad rap, they are pretty solid bikes with excellent motors. Plus, newer bodywork makes these look really good, and you can get them cheap cheap. This is not the greatest example but…

01+ Suzukis look better with original bodywork instead of the ‘18+ bodywork. Even the 96-00 RMs are excellent resellers.

profeshenal125 wrote:

I Loved the 98 cr250 Great motor too.  Did everything better than a 98 yz250 I bought new. I sold it after a few rides.  True...

I Loved the 98 cr250 Great motor too.  Did everything better than a 98 yz250 I bought new. I sold it after a few rides.  True the 04 cr125 is the Best bike ever built. 02,03 handle great the 04 is much improved .  05-07 not as good in super gnarly stuff but still great. You can make a few bucks flipping them. Once modded it’s a 2025 Ktm killer. Probably the most money to b made on a bike . Would b a xr650L most buyers buy new . They add a few things then never hv time to ride . And sell them and loose a lot of money. Probably more 650,s than any other bike on fb.  I had 1 there fun to ride . Trail 70,s r good too but everyone knows there worth money now.  Xr75,80,s r crazy what they sell for. Even the xL 75 or 80. 

burn1986 wrote:

Here’s a 99 CR125 for $1200. Still had the original tires and has been sitting for years. These 99s run better with later bodywork (opens up...

Here’s a 99 CR125 for $1200. Still had the original tires and has been sitting for years. These 99s run better with later bodywork (opens up airbox). Even so, with newer bodywork these are a pretty good ROI.

Brad460 wrote:

I would agree I am completely incapable of making money flipping bikes- Reason being I am too particular when I fix up a bike and spend...

I would agree I am completely incapable of making money flipping bikes- Reason being I am too particular when I fix up a bike and spend too much.

But in today’s market- making $40k part time flipping bikes sounds a bit exaggerated..every listed bikes has the price reduced..

rogers wrote:

Obviously one can't do a 100 point (perfect) resto on a 2002 CR250 or any year Ford Pinto etc and expect to make any money even...

Obviously one can't do a 100 point (perfect) resto on a 2002 CR250 or any year Ford Pinto etc and expect to make any money even if they got the bike (or the Pinto) for free. You make your money when you buy the bike.

40k a year is actually a little less than I made last year, and I have made around the same this year, part time.

coopernicus wrote:

You nailed it with your statement about "making your money when you buy the bike". You're very lucky to find those deals as we haven't seen...

You nailed it with your statement about "making your money when you buy the bike". You're very lucky to find those deals as we haven't seen those prices for years.

Not trying to be a douche (although it does come naturally to me way too often!), but what are the laws in your area regarding selling bikes (with respect to volume) per year? Here in Colorado, you would need a license to sell that many bikes (the limit here is 5 or 6). We also have cycle shops that target folks who sell lots of bikes on CL and FB and turn them into the state. I know of 2 guys that were taken to court for selling too many motorcycles without a Colorado used vehicle sales license.

burn1986 wrote:

Even though the 97-99 CR250s got a bad rap, they are pretty solid bikes with excellent motors. Plus, newer bodywork makes these look really good, and...

Even though the 97-99 CR250s got a bad rap, they are pretty solid bikes with excellent motors. Plus, newer bodywork makes these look really good, and you can get them cheap cheap. This is not the greatest example but…

01+ Suzukis look better with original bodywork instead of the ‘18+ bodywork. Even the 96-00 RMs are excellent resellers.

profeshenal125 wrote:

I Loved the 98 cr250 Great motor too.  Did everything better than a 98 yz250 I bought new. I sold it after a few rides.  True...

I Loved the 98 cr250 Great motor too.  Did everything better than a 98 yz250 I bought new. I sold it after a few rides.  True the 04 cr125 is the Best bike ever built. 02,03 handle great the 04 is much improved .  05-07 not as good in super gnarly stuff but still great. You can make a few bucks flipping them. Once modded it’s a 2025 Ktm killer. Probably the most money to b made on a bike . Would b a xr650L most buyers buy new . They add a few things then never hv time to ride . And sell them and loose a lot of money. Probably more 650,s than any other bike on fb.  I had 1 there fun to ride . Trail 70,s r good too but everyone knows there worth money now.  Xr75,80,s r crazy what they sell for. Even the xL 75 or 80. 

rogers wrote:

Why do you think the 2004 CR250 is better than the others. I bought a 2004 a few months ago, and all my friends that rode...

Why do you think the 2004 CR250 is better than the others. I bought a 2004 a few months ago, and all my friends that rode it said it is the fastest 250 2 stroke they have ever ridden, but some magazines said its slow.

bonseff wrote:

Genuine question for Rogers: how many bikes are you moving to make a 40K profit? Seems like a lot of time invested to move that volume...

Genuine question for Rogers: how many bikes are you moving to make a 40K profit? Seems like a lot of time invested to move that volume assuming you are making a couple grand per bike. Is it a lot of finding desperate sellers on deep discounts needing little work? 

I mean, I restored 3 over the last year and was prolly 400hrs deep when all said and done, it was a huge time investment.

rogers wrote:

Yeah, I know I am insanely lucky, so I definitely don't take it for granted, but I spend a lot of time on the internet looking...

Yeah, I know I am insanely lucky, so I definitely don't take it for granted, but I spend a lot of time on the internet looking for bikes as well, and there are several other people here doing the same thing, so I have a lot of competition.

As far as needing a dealers license to sell motorycles here that are not Titled in the sellers name, it is not required, but they do require just a sellers permit which can be gotten easily in 15 minutes and no bond is required, If the motorcycles are Titled in the sellers name, there is no limit to how many they can sell and a permit is not required, probably because the State has already got money from the seller when the seller Titled the bike in their name. The laws regarding selling cars is different, and a little gray, which seems odd. 

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bonseff wrote:

Genuine question for Rogers: how many bikes are you moving to make a 40K profit? Seems like a lot of time invested to move that volume...

Genuine question for Rogers: how many bikes are you moving to make a 40K profit? Seems like a lot of time invested to move that volume assuming you are making a couple grand per bike. Is it a lot of finding desperate sellers on deep discounts needing little work? 

I mean, I restored 3 over the last year and was prolly 400hrs deep when all said and done, it was a huge time investment.

3strokemx wrote:

Start by sending low ball offers to every used motocross bike on facebook marketplace within 300 miles of your location. To save time it's acceptable to...

Start by sending low ball offers to every used motocross bike on facebook marketplace within 300 miles of your location. To save time it's acceptable to only send a number, ex. "1800".

If someone responds in the affirmative, then ask them their best cash price. 

If they pressure you by asking when you want to come see it, or any other questions, then AVOID and Do Not Respond as they are obviously trying too hard and will rip you off.

When you arrange to buy the bike, make sure to have a back story about how you used to race professionally or better yet, you were on a professional team but got hurt, that way there are no results to get in the way of your story.  This will allow you optimal leverage during negotiation.

While looking at the bike make sure to ask basic questions that either have an obvious answer or do not have a direct answer, "Is this a 2 stroke? " "How fast does it go?", This will keep the seller off balance, classic tactic used by the CIA as described in their de-classified Manual for Interrogation and Manipulation.

One final note, do not bring tie-downs or an obvious method for hauling a bike. This subliminally signals to the seller that they need to work for the sale, so it gives you more leverage.

 Also, you will need to recruit them to help lift the bike or maneuver into your ill suited vehicle, this teamwork and physical action causes a psychological phenomenon which distorts their memory of the event. If it feels too easy to sell the bike, then the seller is more likely to have remorse or a feeling of loss.   In the end, making sure the seller has a good experience is in your best interest as that poor schmuck will have more used bikes in the future that you can buy for cheap.

burn1986 wrote:

Even though the 97-99 CR250s got a bad rap, they are pretty solid bikes with excellent motors. Plus, newer bodywork makes these look really good, and...

Even though the 97-99 CR250s got a bad rap, they are pretty solid bikes with excellent motors. Plus, newer bodywork makes these look really good, and you can get them cheap cheap. This is not the greatest example but…

01+ Suzukis look better with original bodywork instead of the ‘18+ bodywork. Even the 96-00 RMs are excellent resellers.

profeshenal125 wrote:

I Loved the 98 cr250 Great motor too.  Did everything better than a 98 yz250 I bought new. I sold it after a few rides.  True...

I Loved the 98 cr250 Great motor too.  Did everything better than a 98 yz250 I bought new. I sold it after a few rides.  True the 04 cr125 is the Best bike ever built. 02,03 handle great the 04 is much improved .  05-07 not as good in super gnarly stuff but still great. You can make a few bucks flipping them. Once modded it’s a 2025 Ktm killer. Probably the most money to b made on a bike . Would b a xr650L most buyers buy new . They add a few things then never hv time to ride . And sell them and loose a lot of money. Probably more 650,s than any other bike on fb.  I had 1 there fun to ride . Trail 70,s r good too but everyone knows there worth money now.  Xr75,80,s r crazy what they sell for. Even the xL 75 or 80. 

rogers wrote:

Why do you think the 2004 CR250 is better than the others. I bought a 2004 a few months ago, and all my friends that rode...

Why do you think the 2004 CR250 is better than the others. I bought a 2004 a few months ago, and all my friends that rode it said it is the fastest 250 2 stroke they have ever ridden, but some magazines said its slow.

profeshenal125 wrote:

I Loved the 98 cr250 Great motor too.  Did everything better than a 98 yz250 I bought new. I sold it after a few rides.  True...

I Loved the 98 cr250 Great motor too.  Did everything better than a 98 yz250 I bought new. I sold it after a few rides.  True the 04 cr125 is the Best bike ever built. 02,03 handle great the 04 is much improved .  05-07 not as good in super gnarly stuff but still great. You can make a few bucks flipping them. Once modded it’s a 2025 Ktm killer. Probably the most money to b made on a bike . Would b a xr650L most buyers buy new . They add a few things then never hv time to ride . And sell them and loose a lot of money. Probably more 650,s than any other bike on fb.  I had 1 there fun to ride . Trail 70,s r good too but everyone knows there worth money now.  Xr75,80,s r crazy what they sell for. Even the xL 75 or 80. 

rogers wrote:

Why do you think the 2004 CR250 is better than the others. I bought a 2004 a few months ago, and all my friends that rode...

Why do you think the 2004 CR250 is better than the others. I bought a 2004 a few months ago, and all my friends that rode it said it is the fastest 250 2 stroke they have ever ridden, but some magazines said its slow.

profeshenal125 wrote:

Another rider on here Really Liked his 04 cr250 too. He said it’s kinda like a a 125 power band but pulls like a Real fast...

Another rider on here Really Liked his 04 cr250 too. He said it’s kinda like a a 125 power band but pulls like a Real fast 250.  Sounds like a perfect 250 engine .  Use the hrc method for adjusting the pv. I use that on my 04 cr125.  It’s on yt.  A Very tiny bit of grinding inside the hole on the cylinder. That the pv shaft goes threw. I polish the round wheels on the shaft too.  Much free er & smother pv operation.  

rogers wrote:

Yeah, I know I am insanely lucky, so I definitely don't take it for granted, but I spend a lot of time on the internet looking...

Yeah, I know I am insanely lucky, so I definitely don't take it for granted, but I spend a lot of time on the internet looking for bikes as well, and there are several other people here doing the same thing, so I have a lot of competition.

As far as needing a dealers license to sell motorycles here that are not Titled in the sellers name, it is not required, but they do require just a sellers permit which can be gotten easily in 15 minutes and no bond is required, If the motorcycles are Titled in the sellers name, there is no limit to how many they can sell and a permit is not required, probably because the State has already got money from the seller when the seller Titled the bike in their name. The laws regarding selling cars is different, and a little gray, which seems odd. 

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SLAPAHO wrote:

Not true, you need a dealer license to sell dirt bikes legally. That's if you're selling for profit to the public.  I have a dealer license...

Not true, you need a dealer license to sell dirt bikes legally. That's if you're selling for profit to the public.  I have a dealer license for that reason... Not much risk of getting in trouble, but It is the law in California.

 

MX558 wrote:

I've done ok flipping 2 strokes but 4ts are hard unless you get super deal . I did real well on an 04 RC rm250 and...

I've done ok flipping 2 strokes but 4ts are hard unless you get super deal . I did real well on an 04 RC rm250 and 05  yz250 never touched them either . Timing is everything also 

rogers wrote:

Yeah, I know I am insanely lucky, so I definitely don't take it for granted, but I spend a lot of time on the internet looking...

Yeah, I know I am insanely lucky, so I definitely don't take it for granted, but I spend a lot of time on the internet looking for bikes as well, and there are several other people here doing the same thing, so I have a lot of competition.

As far as needing a dealers license to sell motorycles here that are not Titled in the sellers name, it is not required, but they do require just a sellers permit which can be gotten easily in 15 minutes and no bond is required, If the motorcycles are Titled in the sellers name, there is no limit to how many they can sell and a permit is not required, probably because the State has already got money from the seller when the seller Titled the bike in their name. The laws regarding selling cars is different, and a little gray, which seems odd. 

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SLAPAHO wrote:

Not true, you need a dealer license to sell dirt bikes legally. That's if you're selling for profit to the public.  I have a dealer license...

Not true, you need a dealer license to sell dirt bikes legally. That's if you're selling for profit to the public.  I have a dealer license for that reason... Not much risk of getting in trouble, but It is the law in California.

 

rogers wrote:

Well you are actually incorrect, I know the law in and out regarding this issue, because I have dealt directly with DMV and the licensing board...

Well you are actually incorrect, I know the law in and out regarding this issue, because I have dealt directly with DMV and the licensing board and a DMV lawyer regarding this, but of course having a dealers license as opposed to a sellers permit etc does completely eliminate any potential hassles.

SLAPAHO wrote:

Not true, you need a dealer license to sell dirt bikes legally. That's if you're selling for profit to the public.  I have a dealer license...

Not true, you need a dealer license to sell dirt bikes legally. That's if you're selling for profit to the public.  I have a dealer license for that reason... Not much risk of getting in trouble, but It is the law in California.

 

rogers wrote:

Well you are actually incorrect, I know the law in and out regarding this issue, because I have dealt directly with DMV and the licensing board...

Well you are actually incorrect, I know the law in and out regarding this issue, because I have dealt directly with DMV and the licensing board and a DMV lawyer regarding this, but of course having a dealers license as opposed to a sellers permit etc does completely eliminate any potential hassles.

SLAPAHO wrote:

You list your location in Anaheim Ca.,  I happen to live in Orange County, Ca. And I can tell you that you what I said is...

You list your location in Anaheim Ca.,  I happen to live in Orange County, Ca. And I can tell you that you what I said is true. I’ve had a dealer license for 15 years, I know exactly what I speak of. You sound like the normal Craigslist flipper selling junk that they put new shitty plastic on and black sharpied the rims.  The Cal Worthington of shitty dirt bikes. I know you without knowing you. 

 

rogers wrote:

Well you are actually incorrect, I know the law in and out regarding this issue, because I have dealt directly with DMV and the licensing board...

Well you are actually incorrect, I know the law in and out regarding this issue, because I have dealt directly with DMV and the licensing board and a DMV lawyer regarding this, but of course having a dealers license as opposed to a sellers permit etc does completely eliminate any potential hassles.

rogers wrote:

Well you are actually incorrect, I know the law in and out regarding this issue, because I have dealt directly with DMV and the licensing board...

Well you are actually incorrect, I know the law in and out regarding this issue, because I have dealt directly with DMV and the licensing board and a DMV lawyer regarding this, but of course having a dealers license as opposed to a sellers permit etc does completely eliminate any potential hassles.

SLAPAHO wrote:

Let me know if you need help with the big words.  I’m here to help. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-industry-services/occupational-licensing/ Do I Need an Occupational License? Products that Require an OLThese...

Let me know if you need help with the big words.  I’m here to help. 
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-industry-services/occupational-li…

 

Do I Need an Occupational License?

 

Products that Require an OL

These products require street registration or off-highway vehicle (OHV) identification. If you sell any of these products, you need to be licensed as a manufacturer, distributor, or dealer.

Automobiles

All-terrain vehicles (ATVs) (OHVs are subject to identification, not registration)

Commercial vehicles (includes truck tractors, motor trucks, pickups, and sport utility vehicles with a manufactured or conversion truck bed)

Motorcycles and motor driven cycles (includes both on road and motorcycle-type OHVs)

 

rogers wrote:

You obviously need psychiatric consultation.  😝It never fails, there is usually some bloviating, pontificating, clown on Vital that turns what should be a generic thread, into...

You obviously need psychiatric consultation.  😝

It never fails, there is usually some bloviating, pontificating, clown on Vital that turns what should be a generic thread, into shit, and you are it. 🙄

rogers wrote:

You obviously need psychiatric consultation.  😝It never fails, there is usually some bloviating, pontificating, clown on Vital that turns what should be a generic thread, into...

You obviously need psychiatric consultation.  😝

It never fails, there is usually some bloviating, pontificating, clown on Vital that turns what should be a generic thread, into shit, and you are it. 🙄

SLAPAHO wrote:

Dude, you’re full of shit and everyone now knows it. You should probably just let it go. Calling me names and continually editing your posts aren't...

Dude, you’re full of shit and everyone now knows it. You should probably just let it go. Calling me names and continually editing your posts aren't going to change anything.