04 Champ/Factory KTM 125sxs

Edited Date/Time 10/4/2024 5:31pm

Hey guys, searching for factory KTM carbon skid plate 00-06 era 125sxs. It’s the main piece holding me up before I start my build. IMG 3905.png?VersionId=0srZCdQaXLAp8JSD2MXztdfhajY0

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Also same as Langston/Hughes US Team 

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1/16/2024 11:51am

i need one as well for my ex team red bull 2003 frame Smile

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Think Eline actually was the supplier then

1/16/2024 11:56am
worksmx wrote:

i need one as well for my ex team red bull 2003 frame Smile

If I get one I’ll have it copied by my carbon guy who also did my frame guards 👌🏼

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JMX82 wrote:
Thanks mate but not quite what I’m looking for. Plus I bought a pro carbon one a while ago and it was pretty poor quality so...

Thanks mate but not quite what I’m looking for. Plus I bought a pro carbon one a while ago and it was pretty poor quality so I sent it back 

Well in that case you might ask from this facebook group if someone would have the skid plate what you are looking for https://www.facebook.com/groups/235400311127066

10/4/2024 5:42pm

Decided to make my own skid plate based on photos I had. Fabed up a sheet of 1.6mm aluminium for the internal profile. I’ve sent that off to a friend who will make a mould from that and be able to produce some carbon skids. I also welded on mounting tabs to the frame the same style as the factory didIMG 3581 0.jpeg?VersionId=rZ1wx JYx6rh8PdX7DkIMG 3604 1.jpeg?VersionId=Fd15mpVd5tCcDIMG 3605 0IMG 3606 0IMG 3607 2

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Also started pulling down my works GP 125 engine. Some parts are surprisingly stock or stock modified and others are super cool. Sand cast cases with some beautiful port work. “GP 03 05” engraved on the left case which means GP 2003 engine #5. 12° Vertex piston. It also runs a 95-04 YZ125 V Force reed block under a billet cover. Cylinder is stamped SXB 05 12. Which I believe means it was ported by Alex Blantz (KTM Motorsports) 2005, Cylinder #12  It was used as a go kart engine for a few years before I got it.IMG 2980IMG 2976 0IMG 2978 1.jpeg?VersionId=i9qlhzmJIMG 3761 1.jpeg?VersionId=4YOXrTIMG 3756 0IMG 3759 0.jpeg?VersionId=gavyP.nblYUiqrwQChzxyIMG 3764 0IMG 3774 1

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10/5/2024 11:26am

That crankcase looks super trick!

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10/7/2024 12:56am

Sweet! Keen to see the carbon version of that skid plate once your friend is finished with it!

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10/7/2024 3:39am

Very nice.

Interested if you do a run in carbon! 

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Got any pictures of the cylinder porting?

10/9/2024 5:27pm
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Got any pictures of the cylinder porting?

Yeah man, it’s pretty nice. Has a detonation ring in the top of the cylinder aswell. IMG 3820IMG 3818IMG 3819.jpeg?VersionId=4DE8IMG 3821.jpeg?VersionId=2SWyLuW5Ff5xkc .Q

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Is it based on a stock casting or is it a factory casting that is different from stock?

10/10/2024 2:43pm
Tumic wrote:

Is it based on a stock casting or is it a factory casting that is different from stock?

It’s based on a stock casting. 95% of it is the same as a stock set, as almost any part can bolt onto it. The reed block flange is completely different and the intake would have much more material left for porting. Some of the threads are M6 instead of M5 also

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10/24/2024 3:21pm
JMX82 wrote:

Got any pictures of the cylinder porting?

Yeah man, it’s pretty nice. Has a detonation ring in the top of the cylinder aswell.

Yeah man, it’s pretty nice. Has a detonation ring in the top of the cylinder aswell. IMG 3820IMG 3818IMG 3819.jpeg?VersionId=4DE8IMG 3821.jpeg?VersionId=2SWyLuW5Ff5xkc .Q

Detonation ring? What in the? 

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10/24/2024 7:33pm
JMX82 wrote:

Got any pictures of the cylinder porting?

Yeah man, it’s pretty nice. Has a detonation ring in the top of the cylinder aswell.

Yeah man, it’s pretty nice. Has a detonation ring in the top of the cylinder aswell. IMG 3820IMG 3818IMG 3819.jpeg?VersionId=4DE8IMG 3821.jpeg?VersionId=2SWyLuW5Ff5xkc .Q

YZed250 wrote:

Detonation ring? What in the? 

Not following that either.  No exhaust port bridge on Ktm,s must eat rings fast.  I saw quite a few of these at millennium to get plated.  

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10/24/2024 9:17pm
JMX82 wrote:

Got any pictures of the cylinder porting?

Yeah man, it’s pretty nice. Has a detonation ring in the top of the cylinder aswell.

Yeah man, it’s pretty nice. Has a detonation ring in the top of the cylinder aswell. IMG 3820IMG 3818IMG 3819.jpeg?VersionId=4DE8IMG 3821.jpeg?VersionId=2SWyLuW5Ff5xkc .Q

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Detonation ring? What in the? 

I’m not 100% sure on the reasoning but I think it’s that bronze conducts heat better than aluminum, reducing detonation hot spots. And also it’s easily replaced instead of having to scrap or rework the cylinder. 

Also the same reason for 12° piston crowns and inserts. Again to reduce temp and the edge of the piston and stop det.

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10/24/2024 11:49pm Edited Date/Time 10/25/2024 12:15am
Not following that either.  No exhaust port bridge on Ktm,s must eat rings fast.  I saw quite a few of these at millennium to get plated...

Not following that either.  No exhaust port bridge on Ktm,s must eat rings fast.  I saw quite a few of these at millennium to get plated.  

No issues for eating piston rings with KTM's. I have have ridden 125SX/150SX since 2005 and with dual ring piston I can ride about 30hours before the the piston and rings needs to be replaced. Much better than the Honda's port bridge design which requires lubrication holes drilled to the piston and still with those Nicasil plating is wearing out pretty fast on the exhaust bridge (and yes I have been ridden Honda's too) . 

The bronze is tougher than aluminum and dissipates heat better so you can have more ignition advance on the verge of detonation to have more power. The bronze ring can also be replaced separately with out whole cylinder ending to the trash can. Using bronze detonation ring is pretty common practice with highly tuned two stroke road racing engines for a long time              

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10/25/2024 7:51am

Yeah Hondas exhaust port bridge is brittle.  Millennium does a great job repairing them and building them up stronger.  How much stronger is your engine ovr a stocker ?  

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10/25/2024 7:53am

Grant,s 2000 Champ 125 really sounded mean threw the mid and upper mid. I hv the 2000 125 season on vhs. 

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Yeah Hondas exhaust port bridge is brittle.  Millennium does a great job repairing them and building them up stronger.  How much stronger is your engine ovr...

Yeah Hondas exhaust port bridge is brittle.  Millennium does a great job repairing them and building them up stronger.  How much stronger is your engine ovr a stocker ?  

In 03-04 the factory ktm 125’s produced around 41-42whp on VHM’s dyno in The Netherlands.

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