Eli’s Flat Tire

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I thought this was a thing of the past for the top guys. 

 

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I thought this was a thing of the past for the top guys. 

 

In Pro Motocross, they run a bib mousse instead of a tube, so you basically never see a flat.

In Supercross, they still runs tubes. (Mousses react terribly on Supercross whoops)

The Canadian WSX was so rocky that Tomac likely got a pinch flat from landing on or hitting a rock on take off.

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ML512 wrote:
In Pro Motocross, they run a bib mousse instead of a tube, so you basically never see a flat.In Supercross, they still runs tubes. (Mousses react...

In Pro Motocross, they run a bib mousse instead of a tube, so you basically never see a flat.

In Supercross, they still runs tubes. (Mousses react terribly on Supercross whoops)

The Canadian WSX was so rocky that Tomac likely got a pinch flat from landing on or hitting a rock on take off.

Do you know if they run heavy duty tubes or just standard thickness to keep the weight down?

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ML512 wrote:
In Pro Motocross, they run a bib mousse instead of a tube, so you basically never see a flat.In Supercross, they still runs tubes. (Mousses react...

In Pro Motocross, they run a bib mousse instead of a tube, so you basically never see a flat.

In Supercross, they still runs tubes. (Mousses react terribly on Supercross whoops)

The Canadian WSX was so rocky that Tomac likely got a pinch flat from landing on or hitting a rock on take off.

LungButter wrote:

Do you know if they run heavy duty tubes or just standard thickness to keep the weight down?

Given those conditions they must have run thicker tubes....  big rocks everywhere.

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Does any pro run the Tubliss system? I converted my CR500 a year ago; jury is still out on if it's better overall. No flats with it, but doesn't hold pressure like a tube week/week. 

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Does any pro run the Tubliss system? I converted my CR500 a year ago; jury is still out on if it's better overall. No flats with...

Does any pro run the Tubliss system? I converted my CR500 a year ago; jury is still out on if it's better overall. No flats with it, but doesn't hold pressure like a tube week/week. 

No.

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10/28/2024 6:10pm

Did you guys also see the tire he was running?  👀  Not related to the flat, but interesting choice.

10/28/2024 6:17pm

Did you guys also see the tire he was running?  👀  Not related to the flat, but interesting choice.

The swapmoto crew talked about it on their kickstart podcast.

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Does any pro run the Tubliss system? I converted my CR500 a year ago; jury is still out on if it's better overall. No flats with...

Does any pro run the Tubliss system? I converted my CR500 a year ago; jury is still out on if it's better overall. No flats with it, but doesn't hold pressure like a tube week/week. 

Tubliss is too easy to burp air out the tire sidewall.


I'm curious why no teams use Tire Balls. They are lighter than a mousse, offer the same level of protection as a mousse, while giving the feeling and adjustability of an inner tube.

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Does any pro run the Tubliss system? I converted my CR500 a year ago; jury is still out on if it's better overall. No flats with...

Does any pro run the Tubliss system? I converted my CR500 a year ago; jury is still out on if it's better overall. No flats with it, but doesn't hold pressure like a tube week/week. 

3strokemx wrote:
Tubliss is too easy to burp air out the tire sidewall.I'm curious why no teams use Tire Balls. They are lighter than a mousse, offer the...

Tubliss is too easy to burp air out the tire sidewall.


I'm curious why no teams use Tire Balls. They are lighter than a mousse, offer the same level of protection as a mousse, while giving the feeling and adjustability of an inner tube.

Similar to a mousse, they have too much energy absorption / dead feel for whoops and on-offs.

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Did you guys also see the tire he was running?  👀  Not related to the flat, but interesting choice.

At82? He seemed to like it in the post race interviews. 

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Did you guys also see the tire he was running?  👀  Not related to the flat, but interesting choice.

soggy wrote:

At82? He seemed to like it in the post race interviews. 

Weren't a couple guys running those at SMX?

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Does any pro run the Tubliss system? I converted my CR500 a year ago; jury is still out on if it's better overall. No flats with...

Does any pro run the Tubliss system? I converted my CR500 a year ago; jury is still out on if it's better overall. No flats with it, but doesn't hold pressure like a tube week/week. 

3strokemx wrote:
Tubliss is too easy to burp air out the tire sidewall.I'm curious why no teams use Tire Balls. They are lighter than a mousse, offer the...

Tubliss is too easy to burp air out the tire sidewall.


I'm curious why no teams use Tire Balls. They are lighter than a mousse, offer the same level of protection as a mousse, while giving the feeling and adjustability of an inner tube.

Bicycle tubeless maybe, but I’ve never seen Tubliss burp. Not sure how that could even happen with 100+ psi constantly seating the bead. 

Shoot, I’ve hit things hard enough to bend the rim with Tubliss installed and the system didn’t lose any air. 

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Bicycle tubeless maybe, but I’ve never seen Tubliss burp. Not sure how that could even happen with 100+ psi constantly seating the bead. Shoot, I’ve hit things...

Bicycle tubeless maybe, but I’ve never seen Tubliss burp. Not sure how that could even happen with 100+ psi constantly seating the bead. 

Shoot, I’ve hit things hard enough to bend the rim with Tubliss installed and the system didn’t lose any air. 

First hand experience here, it seemed to happen at speed while leaning into corners with rocks or hard edges.   

Atleast the tire stays on the bead so you can continue riding if necessary.

 

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3strokemx wrote:
First hand experience here, it seemed to happen at speed while leaning into corners with rocks or hard edges.   Atleast the tire stays on the bead...

First hand experience here, it seemed to happen at speed while leaning into corners with rocks or hard edges.   

Atleast the tire stays on the bead so you can continue riding if necessary.

 

I'm blown away that there are still people who deal with the headache of the Tubliss System when there are multiple better options on the market.

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LungButter wrote:

I'm blown away that there are still people who deal with the headache of the Tubliss System when there are multiple better options on the market.

Seems like they work well until you ride fast.

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3strokemx wrote:
First hand experience here, it seemed to happen at speed while leaning into corners with rocks or hard edges.   Atleast the tire stays on the bead...

First hand experience here, it seemed to happen at speed while leaning into corners with rocks or hard edges.   

Atleast the tire stays on the bead so you can continue riding if necessary.

 

LungButter wrote:

I'm blown away that there are still people who deal with the headache of the Tubliss System when there are multiple better options on the market.

Run it for over 10 years in the desert without any failures. When does the headache start?

On the other hand, I’ve seen plenty of people install it wrong and have problems so not surprised of its less than stellar reputation. 

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ML512 wrote:

No.

Does this hold true for outdoors also?

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3strokemx wrote:
First hand experience here, it seemed to happen at speed while leaning into corners with rocks or hard edges.   Atleast the tire stays on the bead...

First hand experience here, it seemed to happen at speed while leaning into corners with rocks or hard edges.   

Atleast the tire stays on the bead so you can continue riding if necessary.

 

LungButter wrote:

I'm blown away that there are still people who deal with the headache of the Tubliss System when there are multiple better options on the market.

Like tubes, I can count on one hand how many flats I've had in 29 years of riding. People seem to go to great lengths and pains to solve a non-existent issue.

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love when Mikey drops knowledge

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Like tubes, I can count on one hand how many flats I've had in 29 years of riding. People seem to go to great lengths and...

Like tubes, I can count on one hand how many flats I've had in 29 years of riding. People seem to go to great lengths and pains to solve a non-existent issue.

It's a non-existent issue until you drive 12hrs to race or are 80 miles away from the truck. There are situations where a tube isn't ideal.

Tubliss works when it works. I have never had an issue with the rear other than burping it once. The front is a little different story but I guess that's what happens when you use worn out tires and the valve stem and rimlock are nearly 180* from each other. It has worked in the past and it worked up until I sliced the front tire so bad and lost nearly all the side knobs when I rode it flat for 20 miles.

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