Horrible news, Jay and Hayden Justice

Terrible news Prayers for both of them.

Prayers sent!

That's awful.

So the Dad was on the ground attending to his injured son and another bikes peg hit the Dad? Evidently no flaggers?

Regardless, hate to hear suck horrible news. Hope and prayers to the Justice family.

Hayden has a broken eye socket, broken teeth and a few other things.

His Dad ran on the track to help his kid and a kid jumped the triple and landed on his Dad's head. It was pretty bad and things aren't looking to good for him. Both Hayden and Jay were air-vacked -- it's a terrible situation.

This is another preventable incident where a track was holding an open practice where they charged admission and no flaggers were present. In my opinion, it's inexcusable that a track can be open to the public, charge a gate fee and leave the track(s) unattended for this type of bullshit to happen.

I think this track and all tracks who operate in this manner should be accountable for these incidents.

[quote="j100":16ow9no3]Hayden has a broken eye socket, broken teeth and a few other things.

His Dad ran on the track to help his kid and a kid jumped the triple and landed on his Dad's head. It was pretty bad and things aren't looking to good for him. Both Hayden and Jay were air-vacked -- it's a terrible situation.

This is another preventable incident where a track was holding an open practice where they charged admission and no flaggers were present. In my opinion, it's inexcusable that a track can be open to the public, charge a gate fee and leave the track(s) unattended for this type of bullshit to happen.

[b:16ow9no3]I think this track and all tracks who operate in this manner should be accountable for these incidents.[/b:16ow9no3][/quote:16ow9no3]I agree completely.

Sad news indeed.

I hope everything works out and everyone involved makes a full recovery.

So are most tracks in the US not open to the public, whereby you turn up, pay the fee and ride?
Most tracks in the UK are like that with no flag marshals.

[quote="j100":2vzlpkdn]Hayden has a broken eye socket, broken teeth and a few other things.

His Dad ran on the track to help his kid and a kid jumped the triple and landed on his Dad's head. It was pretty bad and things aren't looking to good for him. Both Hayden and Jay were air-vacked -- it's a terrible situation.

This is another preventable incident where a track was holding an open practice where they charged admission and no flaggers were present. In my opinion, it's inexcusable that a track can be open to the public, charge a gate fee and leave the track(s) unattended for this type of bullshit to happen.

I think this track and all tracks who operate in this manner should be accountable for these incidents.[/quote:2vzlpkdn]


While I understand the angst, if there are no flaggers stationed, it's apparent to the participants. Therefore you make the decision whether to ride with those conditions or not.

Meanwhile, folks demanding flaggers are probably going to be the ones complaining the most that the cost to ride is up to a whopping $20........

Sorry to hear the bad news. Best wishes to Them and the family. Lets not start a pissing match about how tracks should be run in this thread.

Thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

sorry to hear. lawyers coming right up.

[quote:3a8vqlig]Lets not start a pissing match about how tracks should be run in this thread.[/quote:3a8vqlig]

Exactly, save it for later...

[quote="SIMX":2yn40g31][quote:2yn40g31]Lets not start a pissing match about how tracks should be run in this thread.[/quote:2yn40g31]

Exactly, save it for later...[/quote:2yn40g31]I wasn't trying to spin the situation here! I was stating a point that this kind of stuff can be prevented. If you can't see my point, sorry.

I was just sleeping in their motorhome 2 nights ago and to get this call yesterday really sickens me so...

This is terrible news! Prayers to the family and the two that were hurt. Are there any more details? How are they doing today? What track did this happen at and what hospital are they in? Is there anything any of us here in Texas can do to help is why I am asking!?

[quote="mt798":26yfkjw3]This is terrible news! Prayers to the family and the two that were hurt. Are there any more details? How are they doing today? What track did this happen at and what hospital are they in? Is there anything any of us here in Texas can do to help is why I am asking!?[/quote:26yfkjw3]As of this morning, Hayden is hanging in there, Jay is not doing good at all and this happened at MX Underground.

I am not sure what hospital they're at at this time and not sure what else anyone can do, but hope for the best for Jay.

Thoughts and prayers go out to them and their family.

Bad news, but most tracks do not have flaggers. I see sketchy situations at most every track I've ever been to. I've been in situations were someone went down in a blind area. Always stop traffic before getting down to help in a situation like that. Went to a track in Louisiana on Sunday and they have signs stating that an off road facility can not be held liable for injury or death. Guess they have a law on the books already??? Hope all is well, hate hearing stuff like this. Any of us who ride at tracks have probably seen the potential for a similar accident.

I hope everything turns out ok.

Let's all hope for a full and complete recovery for both of them.

I don't know the track layout but I wonder if a lot of this could be eliminated by simply not putting in blind takeoffs/landings. I know that's gives an extra challenge to it but without a good flagger its usually just a matter of time until something bad happens. If you can at least see the landing ... and any issues going on you would have a chance at avoiding it. Yeah, some jerks are always gong to pull the trigger but most wouldn't during a practice. Any of you track owners have a thought on that?

I know whenever we laid out bootleg tracks in the desert or wherever, we always built the launches so you had a clear view of the landing ... in case some squid was going the wrong way on the track.

[quote="Cygnus":2a697hmj]Sorry to hear the bad news. Best wishes to Them and the family. Lets not start a pissing match about how tracks should be run in this thread.[/quote:2a697hmj]

Ditto. This should be a time of prayer.
Prayers sent to Jay and Hayden Justice for a full recovery.

[quote="j100":1m50xny1]Hayden has a broken eye socket, broken teeth and a few other things.

His Dad ran on the track to help his kid and a kid jumped the triple and landed on his Dad's head. It was pretty bad and things aren't looking to good for him. Both Hayden and Jay were air-vacked -- it's a terrible situation.

This is another preventable incident where a track was holding an open practice where they charged admission and no flaggers were present. In my opinion, it's inexcusable that a track can be open to the public, charge a gate fee and leave the track(s) unattended for this type of bullshit to happen.

I think this track and all tracks who operate in this manner should be accountable for these incidents.[/quote:1m50xny1]

Very sad story and I hope everyone comes thru ok,BUT us as riders have to take a little bit of the responsability. when we go to practice and pay the fee the first thing we do is make sure the medic is on hand and make sure there are enough flaggers on the track. " NOT ENOUGH FLAGGERS OR MEDICS " We go right back to the gate and get our money back !!!! When enough people do the same the track will do what is needed to get the riders to stay. If it was just my son practicing I would Usually offer to flag if needed, more parents should offer the same as it helps the track by not having to pay all the flaggers and most of the time the parents are just standing around anyway. Its a pretty easy solution really.

Always sorry to hear about things like this. It's a shame when bad things happen that could have been prevented.

I'm not comfortable riding on a track without flaggers because I'm one of the slowest folks out there, usually. I'd rather pay a few bucks more in fees per day to go riding than have people getting seriously hurt or even killed because there's no flaggers or EMS on practice days.

Very sad, hope everything works out ok.

Best wishes for them and the rest of the family. They're really great people. Always seems that way doesn't it?

[quote="prostreet6t9":1gkz7okk][quote="j100":1gkz7okk]Hayden has a broken eye socket, broken teeth and a few other things.

His Dad ran on the track to help his kid and a kid jumped the triple and landed on his Dad's head. It was pretty bad and things aren't looking to good for him. Both Hayden and Jay were air-vacked -- it's a terrible situation.

This is another preventable incident where a track was holding an open practice where they charged admission and no flaggers were present. In my opinion, it's inexcusable that a track can be open to the public, charge a gate fee and leave the track(s) unattended for this type of bullshit to happen.

I think this track and all tracks who operate in this manner should be accountable for these incidents.[/quote:1gkz7okk]

Very sad story and I hope everyone comes thru ok,BUT us as riders have to take a little bit of the responsability. when we go to practice and pay the fee the first thing we do is make sure the medic is on hand and make sure there are enough flaggers on the track. " NOT ENOUGH FLAGGERS OR MEDICS " We go right back to the gate and get our money back !!!! When enough people do the same the track will do what is needed to get the riders to stay. If it was just my son practicing I would Usually offer to flag if needed, more parents should offer the same as it helps the track by not having to pay all the flaggers and most of the time the parents are just standing around anyway. Its a pretty easy solution really.[/quote:1gkz7okk]

This is not the time or place to make a point.

That sux, i'll pray for them.

I'm very sorry to hear about this very unfortunate situation. It's a real bummer when things like this happen but you can't blame the track owners. I've ridden this particular practice track and it is a relatively small facility that is open 7 days a week but usually sees very light crowds. It is a rough sand track that only has one big jump. Because of the typically light crowds and and the fact that they will allow allow you to ride any time the sun is shining, they really can't justify having flaggers sitting out there all day long, every day of the week. The place just doesn't generate the kind of revenue to pay for that. In fact, I'm pretty sure that the owners don't even turn a profit. Motocross is inherently dangerous and it's up to the rider or his parents to determine whether or not the facilty is too dangerous to ride. That's why you sign a liability waiver when you enter any facility that's open to the public. Those of you that automatically spout off that the track should be held accountable when something like this happens really need to find another sport.

Wow,that is awful.
Thank you God for the injuries not being worse than they are,
I pray the doctors have the knowledge and skill to pull them both thru this injury.
In Jesus name,I pray they make a full recovery and unite with the rest of the family soon.

My heart just aches for this family. I can'e even imagine what I would feel to have both my Son and Husband in such dire states. I will certainly keep the family in my prayers. I do not know this little boy, but I did a search and found that he is just a little guy, like 7 or 8 years old riding a 50cc. My God what a shame. I mean no disrespect, but I have to ask...Why was a little kid on a 50 jumping a triple?? If anyone kknows this family, please let them know that we are all so very sad to hear about yet another tragic accident. May God be with them

Any new updates? We are saying prayers for them for a safe and speedy recovery.

[quote="j100":1936srk4]Hayden has a broken eye socket, broken teeth and a few other things.

His Dad ran on the track to help his kid and a kid jumped the triple and landed on his Dad's head. It was pretty bad and things aren't looking to good for him. Both Hayden and Jay were air-vacked -- it's a terrible situation.

This is another preventable incident where a track was holding an open practice where they charged admission and no flaggers were present. In my opinion, it's inexcusable that a track can be open to the public, charge a gate fee and leave the track(s) unattended for this type of bullshit to happen.

I think this track and all tracks who operate in this manner should be accountable for these incidents.[/quote:1936srk4]

This is sad news for sure and our thoughts and prayers are with the Justice family. I've been around motocross for 20+ years and this isn't the first time nor will it be the last time it'll happen. Parents run to thier fallen rider instead of protecting thier rider first then going to his/her aid. I know this will make people mad but it has to be said to prevent it from happening again. I don't mean to offend but you automatically attacked the facility. They let you know upfront there are no flaggers when you sign the waiver release. Like someone posted earlier a choice was made to ride anyway.