Team Oz & MXdN History

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Edited Date/Time 10/4/2024 10:16pm

This weekend’s MXdN is the 40th anniversary of the Australian team’s first entry. In those 40 years we’ve placed in the top 4 only four times. Before the Lawrence brothers we only had a single podium; 2011 with Reedy, Metty and Mossy.

This year Australia is considered a favourite, perhaps for the first time? Though I’d put France and the Netherlands, and maybe the US, at better odds. 
However this got me thinking about MXdN history. IF the Aussies were to win:

When was the last time there was a new winner? I.e. a county winning for the first time. 
Also, when was the last time a county won with a rider that hasn’t been a regular in either AMA or MXGP?

Pic credit John Steyntjes 

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The last new winner was the Netherlands in 2019. Last team to win with a rider not in AMA/MXGP was France in 2017 (Christophe Charlier).

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10/4/2024 10:03pm
CPR wrote:
This weekend’s MXdN is the 40th anniversary of the Australian team’s first entry. In those 40 years we’ve placed in the top 4 only four times...

This weekend’s MXdN is the 40th anniversary of the Australian team’s first entry. In those 40 years we’ve placed in the top 4 only four times. Before the Lawrence brothers we only had a single podium; 2011 with Reedy, Metty and Mossy.

This year Australia is considered a favourite, perhaps for the first time? Though I’d put France and the Netherlands, and maybe the US, at better odds. 
However this got me thinking about MXdN history. IF the Aussies were to win:

When was the last time there was a new winner? I.e. a county winning for the first time. 
Also, when was the last time a county won with a rider that hasn’t been a regular in either AMA or MXGP?

Pic credit John Steyntjes 

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Even Herlings praised AUS and is expecting them to win. I think the biggest advantage they have (besides the Lawrences being at the top of their game) is Webster having over a month’s worth of seat time on the 250 at the Lawrence compound. They are coming into this race very prepared. The equalizer will be the weather imo. 

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The last new winner was the Netherlands in 2019. Last team to win with a rider not in AMA/MXGP was France in 2017 (Christophe Charlier).

Damn didn’t realise, the Netherlands hadn’t won before. That’s cool.

And thanks for Charlier. Though I should have clarified I meant a rider who hasn’t been an AMA or MXGP regular . I’ll edit that.

10/4/2024 10:18pm
CPR wrote:
This weekend’s MXdN is the 40th anniversary of the Australian team’s first entry. In those 40 years we’ve placed in the top 4 only four times...

This weekend’s MXdN is the 40th anniversary of the Australian team’s first entry. In those 40 years we’ve placed in the top 4 only four times. Before the Lawrence brothers we only had a single podium; 2011 with Reedy, Metty and Mossy.

This year Australia is considered a favourite, perhaps for the first time? Though I’d put France and the Netherlands, and maybe the US, at better odds. 
However this got me thinking about MXdN history. IF the Aussies were to win:

When was the last time there was a new winner? I.e. a county winning for the first time. 
Also, when was the last time a county won with a rider that hasn’t been a regular in either AMA or MXGP?

Pic credit John Steyntjes 

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Even Herlings praised AUS and is expecting them to win. I think the biggest advantage they have (besides the Lawrences being at the top of their...

Even Herlings praised AUS and is expecting them to win. I think the biggest advantage they have (besides the Lawrences being at the top of their game) is Webster having over a month’s worth of seat time on the 250 at the Lawrence compound. They are coming into this race very prepared. The equalizer will be the weather imo. 

I didn't know Webster was over at their compound.

Will Lady luck ever show us her titties?

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We certainly have our best chance ever to take the trophy.

Will be a shame if we can’t find a good 250 rider to back up the Lawrences over the next 5-8 years.  With them at the top of their games we should be in a position to win more than once over that time period.

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Up the boys!! Im Australian this weekend. Cant wait.

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10/4/2024 11:55pm
CPR wrote:
Damn didn’t realise, the Netherlands hadn’t won before. That’s cool.And thanks for Charlier. Though I should have clarified I meant a rider who hasn’t been an...

Damn didn’t realise, the Netherlands hadn’t won before. That’s cool.

And thanks for Charlier. Though I should have clarified I meant a rider who hasn’t been an AMA or MXGP regular . I’ll edit that.

Last team to win a rider who had never been an AMA/MXGP regular would be Czechoslovakia in 1975 (Miroslav Novacek). At least, as far as I can tell. MXGP results back then only list riders who finished in the top 10.

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10/5/2024 12:53am Edited Date/Time 10/5/2024 1:43am

I dunno what's worse, a chance or no chance haha.. I'm trying so hard to not entertain the thought but I keep getting accidental moments of excitement haha

I just keep reliving the 'our best team' moments in my head like Byrner crashing out of the event in the opening laps of the first moto that time with our team of Reed, Byrne and Metcalfe.. Or Sharky breaking his back about 4 foot out of the gate in the quali race at Budds when it was Reed Byrne and McFarlane.. Some may be thinking that those teams aren't really THAT strong and that's probably my point haha 

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10/5/2024 1:27am
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Up the boys!! Im Australian this weekend. Cant wait.

Not to totally derail the thread, but do you guys have anyone in the pipeline who can back up Cole Davies? That kid’s gonna kick some ass when he goes pro. 

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10/5/2024 1:46am
motokiwi wrote:

Up the boys!! Im Australian this weekend. Cant wait.

Sully wrote:
Not to totally derail the thread, but do you guys have anyone in the pipeline who can back up Cole Davies? That kid’s gonna kick some...

Not to totally derail the thread, but do you guys have anyone in the pipeline who can back up Cole Davies? That kid’s gonna kick some ass when he goes pro. 

Levi Townley. He’s still a few years off though. 

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motokiwi wrote:

Up the boys!! Im Australian this weekend. Cant wait.

Sully wrote:
Not to totally derail the thread, but do you guys have anyone in the pipeline who can back up Cole Davies? That kid’s gonna kick some...

Not to totally derail the thread, but do you guys have anyone in the pipeline who can back up Cole Davies? That kid’s gonna kick some ass when he goes pro. 

jazza167 wrote:

Levi Townley. He’s still a few years off though. 

Forgot about him. Do you know if he’s planning to go to the States, or GPs?

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Sully wrote:
Not to totally derail the thread, but do you guys have anyone in the pipeline who can back up Cole Davies? That kid’s gonna kick some...

Not to totally derail the thread, but do you guys have anyone in the pipeline who can back up Cole Davies? That kid’s gonna kick some ass when he goes pro. 

jazza167 wrote:

Levi Townley. He’s still a few years off though. 

Sully wrote:

Forgot about him. Do you know if he’s planning to go to the States, or GPs?

Not sure what the programme for Levi looks like, if i had to guess a season or two of emx125 and then stateside.

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