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Sorry no that's not what I meant to say, FH is in this case absolute an A team. But likes as KMP/Steels dr Jack and so on.. you can’t blame te bike/engines, there is more going on there what’s not going well.
That bike was unreal! Bummer he got injured early that season.
A pretty much stock bike run by a underfunded team is under powered against teams run by rich business man who pour tons of money into developing the bike or who pay to get a race ready factory bike being delivered on their doorstep. Who replace everything on Saturday and do it all over again on Monday in the race shop. Some riders are going through 5 clutches or getting kidney expensive SUTTER clutches for their their "aggressive riding"...
Why would one bike be more reliable than the other, all those facts considered? Most honest would be, put them all bone stock on a dyno.
Seewer officially 2 years contract with Ducati in 2025
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It really has nothing to do with the original argument but you are literally proving my point. If a bike close to stock already starts boiling over and smoking you know it can't keep up. But my opinion is based, I looked at the TM engine, how it is constructed and configurated and I have to admit it is an interesting concept, it is not suitable to compete with the other offers unfortunately, so it's silly to state it would be interesting for a team like F&H. Honestly, it's not because the base is not suitable to make the power needed, no matter how many times you replace or change, that is the nature of modern FIM regulations.
Racing is expensive and on the highest level huge budgets are on the line and it is hard to compete as a privateer or team without big backers behind, but it is not impossible. It has always been ''unfair'' and unfortunately it will stay like that in foreseeable future.
Putting them stock on a dyno gives you a baseline, but doesn't tell you anything about the potential it might have for racing on the highest level.
"how it is constructed and configured and I have to admit it is an interesting concept, it is not suitable to compete with the other offers unfortunately"
The engine is indeed a complete different concept, that is why engine builders are mostly shooting blind. Because with all respect their copy past work that they know that works on a Austrian or Japanese bike doesn't work on a TM bike. Saying the bike hasn't "it" to be competitive when Bernardini did decent things one the bike, when TM was a full blown factory team.
But you're right F&H isn't a team that could do this. Normal bikes are already hard enough for them.
Rumour here that CLS will be back in mx2 with Kawasaki and 2 riders
that’s the Riley team I guess.
I think the former team owner of CLS is going to be involved with the Riley team
The two 250 riders of team JM Honda are out for next year.
Question is, what the future will look like in 2025 for the belgian team?
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Last time TM were serious about motocross and doing it with a serious budget was with Max Nagl and Samuele Bernardini, back in 2015-2018-ish.
But seeing them back in MX2 and EMX classes gives me hope for the future. I think their Moto 3 adventure really hurt their racing side of things, they even scaled back from EnduroGP's where they were legit title contenders for a long time with guys like Remes, Verona and Ruprecht.
I have been hearing a rumor some weeks ago that Honda approached JM to be the official EMX250 team for Honda, but unsure if that is really true or not. Werner signed with KTM and today I have been reading an article about Osterhagen being out of ride.
Apparently they are planning to continue with Brent regardless.
It is a small, maybe even too small manufacturer but with a lot of know how... And building a competitive moto3 wasn't a bad idea but they got launched in 2018 I think or 2019, and COVID took at firm grip on those national championships, and they pulled the plug on their own CEV team at the end of 2021 but rumor is that you can still ask to build the bike for you. They didn't pull the plug by the way because they didn't score good results in CEV.
And it wasn't too stupid to build a bike because that Moto3 is a class you can lease ton of bikes out towards satellite teams in national championships and world championship if it works out. But again it was budget and maybe the fact that they are pretty unknown that screwed them over because the bike was good enough for Ducati, there where short talks with Ducati, so they wouldn't have to use bikes from there competitors Honda, KTM, (??dunno if Aprilia still has Moto3 bikes??) to develop there talents.
It is a different kind of horsepower but they could make a 250cc Moto3 fast and their Supermoto bikes are always fast as hell. So don't tell me that someone with enough knowledge and who understands the engine. Who understands that you drink first a few cups of Italian coffee, walk around the bike saying she is beautiful before start working on it, can tune it up to MXGP levels. 😁
Zero TM knowledge here. How do the engines run compared to other bikes?
Heard this rumour as well, but they have a LOT of sponsors coming from Belgium. Makes sense that they want to keep van Doninck on board. Seems like Honda wants to have a structure just like Yamaha does. EMX250, MX2, MXGP team(s). Not sure what they will do with Standing Construct though, according to the interview with the team owner they're still waiting with clear offers
Fh Racing will stop after Mxgp of Spain
Where will Prugnieres land next year?
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What i hear is WZ Racing-KTM..... with Maxime Grau!
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I will be honest, I'm no tech-guy but their electronics are on a different level. Their bikes come with an ECU that has a lot of options. You can adapt a lot just in the ECU, instead of pre-mapped ECUs you get at other bikes. Also they have electronic fuel injection, same system is used by SHERCO.
Shame, I remember when they used to be the team to be on.
Yeah 2019/2020 was really good. Especially 2020 they did alot of podiums in mx2 with Mathys Boisrame and Roan Van De Moosdijk. At the time they were the last two emx champions, 2018 Mathys and 2019 Roan. And they also had Haarup that year. After that they started doing strange decisions and the team started doing down leading to close doors. Sad
Any rumours on Weckman? He will be racing the MXGP class next year to my knowledge, but it's obviously going to be a bought ride. Maybe Silve Racing? He has had a horrible year, but seems like there is some money floating around amongst his supporters.
If I remember correctly they had a decent season with Sterry & Jacobi.
Bummer deal with F&H, heard those rumors a little ago but didn’t know if those got any backing. He did allot for the sport and been at it for awhile, started in 09 in EMX 250.
Somebody heard where De Reuver might end up? Must be a wanted guy to get on a team as he made allot of guys make that extra step.
Well, id argue that he did not do much for Horgmo. So his way of working seems to not work with everyone, which is normal and to be expected.
I remember Horgmo stopped doing his popular vlogs when he was on F&H and he even said publically to Lewis (in a podcast?) that Marc didn't want him to do them.
Not sure if this is perfectly suited for silly season/mxgp rumours but didnt want to make a new topic for this.
I don't see any of the MX media reporting on it, but this weekend there was a multi-page article in the newspapers on the Frits van Eerd case (owner Jumbo). The story is about using Jumbo sponsorhip in MXGP as a scheme to launder money. In it they explicititly name 2 EMX/GP team owners and it appears more teams are involved but not named in the article. Would that have any impact on the silly season?
Horgmo turned from a rider crashing his brains out regularly, to a guy being consistent in top 10 in mx2 (and now MXGP). I have to say, he already turned it around when he went back to EMX250 first (he did 1 year mx2 but the team didn't have sufficient funds to help him) - but De Reuver definitely helped him progress. He is now working with Bonacorsi, Walvoort and a few 125/85 riders for the national selection in the Netherlands
I think he is also working with Ambjornsson in mx2
Nothing for 2025, this is from before the 2024 season.
Teams in 2023, which where all emx by that time: Hutten Yamaha (now Yamaha mx2), BT Husqvarna (closed their doors due Jumbo after 2023 season) and Riley (coming back after the issues with Jumbo)
Funny if thats the case... Because Grau and Prugnieres were already rivals when they used to race the french 85cc national championship back in the days...
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