VMC MX track

mattyhamz2 wrote:

When did MC close?

FGR01 wrote:

MCMP in Tucson closed when COVID started in 2020 and never reopened.   Also, guys from the Phoenix area would have no idea what you're talking...

MCMP in Tucson closed when COVID started in 2020 and never reopened.   Also, guys from the Phoenix area would have no idea what you're talking about anyway because they basically never came to MCMP because it was a 2 hr drive for them.  😁

mattyhamz2 wrote:

When did MC close?

FGR01 wrote:

MCMP in Tucson closed when COVID started in 2020 and never reopened.   Also, guys from the Phoenix area would have no idea what you're talking...

MCMP in Tucson closed when COVID started in 2020 and never reopened.   Also, guys from the Phoenix area would have no idea what you're talking about anyway because they basically never came to MCMP because it was a 2 hr drive for them.  😁

mattyhamz2 wrote:

I went in 2017 because I was in Sahuarita visiting my wife's family. It wasn't top tier by any means, but it was fun to ride...

I went in 2017 because I was in Sahuarita visiting my wife's family. It wasn't top tier by any means, but it was fun to ride and a fun layout. Bummer they closed. Met one local guy who had just bought an 18 YZ450 and offered to let me ride it after I asked him how he liked it so far. There was less than a handful of people when I went, but everyone there was awesome.

I was looking forward to taking my bike next time we head back to Sahuarita.

FGR01 wrote:

MCMP in Tucson closed when COVID started in 2020 and never reopened.   Also, guys from the Phoenix area would have no idea what you're talking...

MCMP in Tucson closed when COVID started in 2020 and never reopened.   Also, guys from the Phoenix area would have no idea what you're talking about anyway because they basically never came to MCMP because it was a 2 hr drive for them.  😁

mattyhamz2 wrote:

I went in 2017 because I was in Sahuarita visiting my wife's family. It wasn't top tier by any means, but it was fun to ride...

I went in 2017 because I was in Sahuarita visiting my wife's family. It wasn't top tier by any means, but it was fun to ride and a fun layout. Bummer they closed. Met one local guy who had just bought an 18 YZ450 and offered to let me ride it after I asked him how he liked it so far. There was less than a handful of people when I went, but everyone there was awesome.

I was looking forward to taking my bike next time we head back to Sahuarita.

FGR01 wrote:

Yeah, I still remember talking to you before you did that trip out here.  It was the same week as the Tour-de Tucson bike race, as...

Yeah, I still remember talking to you before you did that trip out here.  It was the same week as the Tour-de Tucson bike race, as I recall, November?

Yes, I miss MCMP.  Was only an hour from me and saved me tons of driving.   If you ever come out this way again let me know and I'll see what riding I'm doing at the time.

sumdood wrote:

Raced VMC with the othg and oldtimers a couple times. Did a night race there once, the lighting was minimal at best. There were a couple...

Raced VMC with the othg and oldtimers a couple times. Did a night race there once, the lighting was minimal at best. There were a couple jumps where the landings were completely dark, sketchy af. 😬

 Best memory from there ?  Remember when they had the freestyle jumps there ? The Six pak ?  3 giant jumps going one way then a u turn and back the other way.  We were camping off Bell mountain road and rode over there to check it out. I was with my wife and young kids, and a couple other people. The place seemed empty. We rode in and were sitting between 2 of the jumps not even realizing they were jumps, it looked more like they were just storing dirt in big piles ( like 15-20 foot ? high piles )  Anyway we hear a bike fire up and say hey someone else is here too, probably 10 seconds later we hear a 2 stroke pinned on the rev limiter and look up to see an upside down bike flying waay over our heads, my wife screamed because she thought she was going to watch someone die lol.  Turned out to be Mike Cinqmars and Shae Bentley taking turns doing the biggest jumps we'd ever seen in our lives. That was our first exposure to freestyle type jumps in person and we were in awe.. We watched for about 20 minutes until they took a break so we rode over to see who it was.  My wife was saying "Those guys are fucking crazy" the kids were saying "I want to go find a jump"   Great...... 😝   Sad to think how many tracks are gone now. 

vitalriderCrf wrote:

Were those the jumps Mike Cinqmars got hurt on? I thought those were at racetown

avidchimp wrote:

I think Bill has VMC and Racetown 395 mixed up. Racetown had the 6-pack.

RD_97 wrote:

That was my favorite track for so long.

That was my favorite track for so long.

avidchimp wrote:

Ronnie!!

wisey wrote:

Rode Motoland one time and that was exactly what we said about it. Wierd as we pulled in I was expecting a sand track. Place is...

Rode Motoland one time and that was exactly what we said about it. Wierd as we pulled in I was expecting a sand track. Place is waaaayy out there. 

mxracer71 wrote:

I live in queen creek/San tan and it’s wasent to bad of a drive.  When I rolled in I thought it was going to be amazing...

I live in queen creek/San tan and it’s wasent to bad of a drive.  When I rolled in I thought it was going to be amazing, so wett and slick like Elsinore and then when it dried up it was so hard concrete had nothing on it 😂. 
When I lived in so cal,I was 20 mins from fox,40 from cahuilla and an hour from glen helen,30 from perris and 10 from Elsinore. . 

FGR01 wrote:

When is the last time you've been to Motoland?  Since the new owners?   Yeah, the dirt by nature is hard pack.  But they do a...

When is the last time you've been to Motoland?  Since the new owners?   Yeah, the dirt by nature is hard pack.  But they do a pretty good job prepping it.  The trick is you have to be there right when they open to get the soft stuff.  Get your motos in and get out when it starts getting baked.  It's the AZ dez, what can ya do?  The Vet track is down right soft and loamy in the morning.  Especially since the remake a few weeks ago.  I drive 3 hrs each way to get to Motoland and I'm glad to have it! 

SLAPAHO wrote:

Rode there twice back in 2002 or 2003. Super fun typical hi-dez track with sandy bowl turns and fun jumps. That big jump across the front...

Rode there twice back in 2002 or 2003. Super fun typical hi-dez track with sandy bowl turns and fun jumps. That big jump across the front fence line was pretty big tho... at least for me at the time.  Long haul from OC tho.  i probably passed 6 tracks on the way to this place back then. 

Here's some more info on the place with pics of what's left of it. Also some video taken with a potato back in '02

https://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/info/california_10358/ride_433a.htm

 

 

RD_97 wrote:

That was my favorite track for so long.

That was my favorite track for so long.

avidchimp wrote:

Ronnie!!

RD_97 wrote:

It's been several years. How are you!

vitalriderCrf wrote:

Unpopular opinion: Anyone who complains about $40 to ride a prepped track is a noob. 

AZ guys, how much does ACP and Motoland charge?

SLAPAHO wrote:

Rode there twice back in 2002 or 2003. Super fun typical hi-dez track with sandy bowl turns and fun jumps. That big jump across the front...

Rode there twice back in 2002 or 2003. Super fun typical hi-dez track with sandy bowl turns and fun jumps. That big jump across the front fence line was pretty big tho... at least for me at the time.  Long haul from OC tho.  i probably passed 6 tracks on the way to this place back then. 

Here's some more info on the place with pics of what's left of it. Also some video taken with a potato back in '02

https://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/info/california_10358/ride_433a.htm

 

 

MXD wrote:

I believe I was with you both times.  The late 90s to early 2000s SoCal tracks made Seth Enslows out of all of us. Everything was...

I believe I was with you both times.  The late 90s to early 2000s SoCal tracks made Seth Enslows out of all of us. Everything was huge. 

vitalriderCrf wrote:

You guys remember that big freestyle double on the main at Elsinore?

MXD wrote:

I believe I was with you both times.  The late 90s to early 2000s SoCal tracks made Seth Enslows out of all of us. Everything was...

I believe I was with you both times.  The late 90s to early 2000s SoCal tracks made Seth Enslows out of all of us. Everything was huge. 

vitalriderCrf wrote:

You guys remember that big freestyle double on the main at Elsinore?

SLAPAHO wrote:

Oh yeah, most of our crew were hitting that jump, I ran up the take off several times and said “pass” 😂.  It was more than...

Oh yeah, most of our crew were hitting that jump, I ran up the take off several times and said “pass” 😂.  It was more than I wanted to gamble at the time. I used to sit and watch guys short it or oj it and it was pretty ugly.  But like I said, like 6 bros out of the crew were doing it no problem. 
Elsinore was the wild west back then, right?  Crazy shit in the pits all the time, chicks crashing into boyfriends f150 while learning how to ride, lots of black plastics, mid day watering that turned the whole place into a greased pan. Good times 😀

Here’s a pic from 04, not sure if that’s the take off for that jump or not but it shows how baked the place would get.  

wisey wrote:

Rode Motoland one time and that was exactly what we said about it. Wierd as we pulled in I was expecting a sand track. Place is...

Rode Motoland one time and that was exactly what we said about it. Wierd as we pulled in I was expecting a sand track. Place is waaaayy out there. 

mxracer71 wrote:

I live in queen creek/San tan and it’s wasent to bad of a drive.  When I rolled in I thought it was going to be amazing...

I live in queen creek/San tan and it’s wasent to bad of a drive.  When I rolled in I thought it was going to be amazing, so wett and slick like Elsinore and then when it dried up it was so hard concrete had nothing on it 😂. 
When I lived in so cal,I was 20 mins from fox,40 from cahuilla and an hour from glen helen,30 from perris and 10 from Elsinore. . 

FGR01 wrote:

When is the last time you've been to Motoland?  Since the new owners?   Yeah, the dirt by nature is hard pack.  But they do a...

When is the last time you've been to Motoland?  Since the new owners?   Yeah, the dirt by nature is hard pack.  But they do a pretty good job prepping it.  The trick is you have to be there right when they open to get the soft stuff.  Get your motos in and get out when it starts getting baked.  It's the AZ dez, what can ya do?  The Vet track is down right soft and loamy in the morning.  Especially since the remake a few weeks ago.  I drive 3 hrs each way to get to Motoland and I'm glad to have it! 

vitalriderCrf wrote:

You guys remember that big freestyle double on the main at Elsinore?

SLAPAHO wrote:

Oh yeah, most of our crew were hitting that jump, I ran up the take off several times and said “pass” 😂.  It was more than...

Oh yeah, most of our crew were hitting that jump, I ran up the take off several times and said “pass” 😂.  It was more than I wanted to gamble at the time. I used to sit and watch guys short it or oj it and it was pretty ugly.  But like I said, like 6 bros out of the crew were doing it no problem. 
Elsinore was the wild west back then, right?  Crazy shit in the pits all the time, chicks crashing into boyfriends f150 while learning how to ride, lots of black plastics, mid day watering that turned the whole place into a greased pan. Good times 😀

Here’s a pic from 04, not sure if that’s the take off for that jump or not but it shows how baked the place would get.  

hubbardmx50 wrote:

Hell yeah slap. Love the pics from the early 2000's. We are still very lucky now but Socal moto was definitely cranking back then. Full gates...

Hell yeah slap. Love the pics from the early 2000's. We are still very lucky now but Socal moto was definitely cranking back then. Full gates and long ass front booth lines at every track. 

mxracer71 wrote:

I live in queen creek/San tan and it’s wasent to bad of a drive.  When I rolled in I thought it was going to be amazing...

I live in queen creek/San tan and it’s wasent to bad of a drive.  When I rolled in I thought it was going to be amazing, so wett and slick like Elsinore and then when it dried up it was so hard concrete had nothing on it 😂. 
When I lived in so cal,I was 20 mins from fox,40 from cahuilla and an hour from glen helen,30 from perris and 10 from Elsinore. . 

FGR01 wrote:

When is the last time you've been to Motoland?  Since the new owners?   Yeah, the dirt by nature is hard pack.  But they do a...

When is the last time you've been to Motoland?  Since the new owners?   Yeah, the dirt by nature is hard pack.  But they do a pretty good job prepping it.  The trick is you have to be there right when they open to get the soft stuff.  Get your motos in and get out when it starts getting baked.  It's the AZ dez, what can ya do?  The Vet track is down right soft and loamy in the morning.  Especially since the remake a few weeks ago.  I drive 3 hrs each way to get to Motoland and I'm glad to have it! 

hubbardmx50 wrote:

Never rode in AZ, but I followed Motoland on the socials as I've been doing research (Parents want to retire there). It looks like they're putting...

Never rode in AZ, but I followed Motoland on the socials as I've been doing research (Parents want to retire there). It looks like they're putting in a really good effort to keep MX alive in AZ. A day riding hard pack is still better than a day at the office. Just ride the damn thing! I'm sure everyone who complained about VMC wishes it was still open. Hell, I remember complaining about Elsinore as a kid thinking the dirt sucked. Now that I'm older, I pat those guys on the back for their hard work. We need to support these tracks the best we can. When the last one in our state(s) shuts it's doors, what will our next move be?

SLAPAHO wrote:

Oh yeah, most of our crew were hitting that jump, I ran up the take off several times and said “pass” 😂.  It was more than...

Oh yeah, most of our crew were hitting that jump, I ran up the take off several times and said “pass” 😂.  It was more than I wanted to gamble at the time. I used to sit and watch guys short it or oj it and it was pretty ugly.  But like I said, like 6 bros out of the crew were doing it no problem. 
Elsinore was the wild west back then, right?  Crazy shit in the pits all the time, chicks crashing into boyfriends f150 while learning how to ride, lots of black plastics, mid day watering that turned the whole place into a greased pan. Good times 😀

Here’s a pic from 04, not sure if that’s the take off for that jump or not but it shows how baked the place would get.  

hubbardmx50 wrote:

Hell yeah slap. Love the pics from the early 2000's. We are still very lucky now but Socal moto was definitely cranking back then. Full gates...

Hell yeah slap. Love the pics from the early 2000's. We are still very lucky now but Socal moto was definitely cranking back then. Full gates and long ass front booth lines at every track. 

Dirtydeeds wrote:

Remember the huge mound of dirt in front of the tower? It was kind of a step up step down thing. It was pretty big. Normal...

Remember the huge mound of dirt in front of the tower? It was kind of a step up step down thing. It was pretty big. Normal guys would go double double double, fast guys would go triple triple. I watched Stewart jump the whole damn thing on his 125 🤯