Hangtown - looked Rough

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 3:56pm
To me, what did ya'll think?

DC said yesterday or the day before it would be rough and I think he was telling the truth.
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If you think that was rough, you'd better take up roadracing.
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5/23/2010 5:05pm
There was a lot of chop! I mentioned something while watching it that it looked rough.
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There was a lot of chop! I mentioned something while watching it that it looked rough.
You ARE kidding, right??

If you think that was rough, you'd better not go to Holland or Belgium (or Gopher Dunes in Canada).

That was just an average MX track.
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There was a lot of chop! I mentioned something while watching it that it looked rough.
I agree, the track was rough. It was a different type of rough then some other tracks in holland or belguim. This rough was the choppy kind that wants to rip the bars out of your hands.

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5/23/2010 5:12pm
I live down the road from Southwick so I know what rough is.

Watching those second motos I thought there was a lot of chop. When factory bikes are bouncing all over its way rougher than it looks.
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I live down the road from Southwick so I know what rough is. Watching those second motos I thought there was a lot of chop. When...
I live down the road from Southwick so I know what rough is.

Watching those second motos I thought there was a lot of chop. When factory bikes are bouncing all over its way rougher than it looks.
x2

except the living down the street from southwick part.
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5/23/2010 5:18pm
Looked like Glen Helen.... before 2nd practice.
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MX outdoors should be on rough tracks. Seperates the men from the boys!!! Problem with so many young riders today is they ride a smooth groomed track and do not know what a "rough" track is like. Maybe might slow down the injury rate!!
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5/23/2010 5:20pm
Mikemad wrote:
To me, what did ya'll think?

DC said yesterday or the day before it would be rough and I think he was telling the truth.
click link for rough http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dtlWKRqP8I

Hangtown looked good and choppy, but hardly rough. Also looked tough to pass on after watching Reed going through the pack in moto 2.
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Yeah it might not have been the roughest i've seen at all, but it definitely looked uncomfortable to ride... that's for sure!

Hardpack base with all that sand and shitty rice hull mixed through it... There was chop with loose rolling crap on the top...

It got a little one lined, maybe the track crew shoulda spent more time in practice moving hay bales to force riders into different lines...

That off camber hair pin before the big double was a good example... The outside had too much of a crest coming out so the riders couldn't get smooth round the outside and justify the distance...

Same with the back chicane before the last uphill at the end of the lap... it was inside inside inside...

Still, better to see them leaving it be this year, no 60mph hit the deck situations...
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5/23/2010 5:49pm
Everybody was expecting the classic Hangtown hardpack and got a real MX track instead.

If you expected the same ole US (California) crap, you got a surprise.

Great job by the Dirt Diggers, but that track was only a 5 out of 10 if you're grading it for roughness.

More, maybe, than a lot of guys expected...but not world-class rough. I have seen my fair share of chest deep braking bumps. I don't need any rookies to tell me what rough is.
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5/23/2010 5:54pm
RACEGUY wrote:
Everybody was expecting the classic Hangtown hardpack and got a real MX track instead. If you expected the same ole US (California) crap, you got a...
Everybody was expecting the classic Hangtown hardpack and got a real MX track instead.

If you expected the same ole US (California) crap, you got a surprise.

Great job by the Dirt Diggers, but that track was only a 5 out of 10 if you're grading it for roughness.

More, maybe, than a lot of guys expected...but not world-class rough. I have seen my fair share of chest deep braking bumps. I don't need any rookies to tell me what rough is.
lol

Who said it was world class rough?
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5/23/2010 5:58pm
RACEGUY wrote:
Everybody was expecting the classic Hangtown hardpack and got a real MX track instead. If you expected the same ole US (California) crap, you got a...
Everybody was expecting the classic Hangtown hardpack and got a real MX track instead.

If you expected the same ole US (California) crap, you got a surprise.

Great job by the Dirt Diggers, but that track was only a 5 out of 10 if you're grading it for roughness.

More, maybe, than a lot of guys expected...but not world-class rough. I have seen my fair share of chest deep braking bumps. I don't need any rookies to tell me what rough is.
i can tell that you werent there in person
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5/23/2010 5:58pm Edited Date/Time 5/23/2010 5:59pm
Who said is wasn't rough besides Raceguy? What a jackoff.
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5/23/2010 6:00pm
mcopsey wrote:
Who said is wasn't rough besides Raceguy? What a jackoff.
Well according to him we are all a bunch of rookies! Laughing
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Based on this thread, it was a trip through no-man's land on a WW1 battlefield.

Hardly.

Great track. Too narrow in too many critical spots, but much better than the pussified predictable we've gotten used to.
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5/23/2010 6:04pm Edited Date/Time 5/23/2010 6:04pm
Build a national caliber track, have a race then let us critique it. Or stfu.
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mcopsey wrote:
Build a national caliber track, have a race then let us critique it. Or stfu.
How many years have you invested in the sport, fuck-face??

Betcha I was pickin' rocks and moving hay-bales before you had your first wet dream.

...or STFU...not fucking likely.
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"i saw a video of it so i know exactly how rough it was compared to another track in bum fuck Belgium that i have also seen in a shitty youtube video" - RACEGUY
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5/23/2010 7:39pm
Mikemad wrote:
To me, what did ya'll think?

DC said yesterday or the day before it would be rough and I think he was telling the truth.
I was afraid they were going to stop the race and groom the track, It was getting horrendous and dangerous and someone could have broken a fingernail or something...no wonder Americans have a hard time finishing a a full season of brutal GP`s
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5/23/2010 7:42pm
you suck euro trash!
5/23/2010 7:46pm
hangtown like others get rough no question. but its hard pack underneath it all so bumps only get so big there - the fact that the braking and accel bumps are on up and down hills is where it gets tricky - but no question glen helen gets worse
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5/23/2010 7:57pm Edited Date/Time 5/23/2010 7:58pm
grimey wrote:
you suck euro trash!
actually 4th generation SoCal sonny,It is possible nowdays to travel and live outside the USofA
5/23/2010 8:17pm
Team Euro..You're a complete D--ch- bag.. I'm a huge fan of the GPs (When I say huge fan I mean I follow as close as the ama series) but i'm also a huge fan of the ama nationals and the last thing I do as a fan is talk down about either series. Sure I gripe here and there about specific things I'd like to see change but I love all mx. All I hear out of your mouth is negative BS and it's usually pertaining to American MX. If you don't like Americans or American MX turn the damn channel. When I say turn the channel I also mean get the F--k off this site as well. You talk down to everyone like you're something special. I have a feeling you live in your moms basement,smoke 40 bong hits a day and haven't been laid since 1988 and you come on places like this talking down about anything and everything to try to make yourself feel better about your own misery.
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5/23/2010 8:40pm Edited Date/Time 5/23/2010 9:17pm
Team Euro..You're a complete D--ch- bag.. I'm a huge fan of the GPs (When I say huge fan I mean I follow as close as the...
Team Euro..You're a complete D--ch- bag.. I'm a huge fan of the GPs (When I say huge fan I mean I follow as close as the ama series) but i'm also a huge fan of the ama nationals and the last thing I do as a fan is talk down about either series. Sure I gripe here and there about specific things I'd like to see change but I love all mx. All I hear out of your mouth is negative BS and it's usually pertaining to American MX. If you don't like Americans or American MX turn the damn channel. When I say turn the channel I also mean get the F--k off this site as well. You talk down to everyone like you're something special. I have a feeling you live in your moms basement,smoke 40 bong hits a day and haven't been laid since 1988 and you come on places like this talking down about anything and everything to try to make yourself feel better about your own misery.
Rode your track many years, you know me,you were a snot nosed buzzsaw when I left..Tore down your chain link fence in the 2nd turn before the dropaway many times...I have earned the right to negative BS. We went over to the GP`s, some went home, some liked it and remained behind. Sorry I shake up the comfort zone of your little MX nation, I`ll be gone next week and you can spin your tales of grandeur and beat your macho we are the best chest again and feel secure that you are the Champions within the North American borders but the true Champions are those who venture out of the comfort zone and endure and become GP riders
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5/23/2010 10:44pm
mcopsey wrote:
Build a national caliber track, have a race then let us critique it. Or stfu.
our corners were deemed too gnarled by a few local pros.





But, they were practicing for SX so it didn't matter.

5/24/2010 12:31am
Team Euro..You're a complete D--ch- bag.. I'm a huge fan of the GPs (When I say huge fan I mean I follow as close as the...
Team Euro..You're a complete D--ch- bag.. I'm a huge fan of the GPs (When I say huge fan I mean I follow as close as the ama series) but i'm also a huge fan of the ama nationals and the last thing I do as a fan is talk down about either series. Sure I gripe here and there about specific things I'd like to see change but I love all mx. All I hear out of your mouth is negative BS and it's usually pertaining to American MX. If you don't like Americans or American MX turn the damn channel. When I say turn the channel I also mean get the F--k off this site as well. You talk down to everyone like you're something special. I have a feeling you live in your moms basement,smoke 40 bong hits a day and haven't been laid since 1988 and you come on places like this talking down about anything and everything to try to make yourself feel better about your own misery.
Team Euro wrote:
Rode your track many years, you know me,you were a snot nosed buzzsaw when I left..Tore down your chain link fence in the 2nd turn before...
Rode your track many years, you know me,you were a snot nosed buzzsaw when I left..Tore down your chain link fence in the 2nd turn before the dropaway many times...I have earned the right to negative BS. We went over to the GP`s, some went home, some liked it and remained behind. Sorry I shake up the comfort zone of your little MX nation, I`ll be gone next week and you can spin your tales of grandeur and beat your macho we are the best chest again and feel secure that you are the Champions within the North American borders but the true Champions are those who venture out of the comfort zone and endure and become GP riders
Euro..Check your email. I sent you a IM.. I would like to know who this guy that knows so much about me and my track is..lol You have peeked my curiosity.. Alllot of my friends are Douche bags so you're right I probably do know you..
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5/24/2010 5:57am Edited Date/Time 5/24/2010 5:57am
It never ceases to amaze me how fast these threads go in the crapper! I think the track looked plenty rough enough to challenge those guys but not slow them down to a snails pace trying to navigate it. And even though they evidently introduced some different materials into the base soil it was a obviously a different kind of "rough" compared to the sand tracks. Personally I would rather deal with sand hoops vs hard pack chop.
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5/24/2010 6:23am
I really liked the track! It was fast with lots of roost and the rear ends of the bikes were bouncing all over the place going downhill before turns. Imagine the headshake they must have felt going downhill with it being so choppy. Imo that makes things rough, and the track was awesome. But what do I know, I wasn´t there, I just saw the first moto on Alli..
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RACEGUY says you guys are effing Pussys

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