Mx Sports takes Slowie Films Media pass.

8/15/2024 11:19am
MXer391 wrote:
Partying at a Motocross race = OK Filming partying at a Motocross race and posting it online = Not OK BTW I am not defending either side here...

Partying at a Motocross race = OK

 

Filming partying at a Motocross race and posting it online = Not OK

 

BTW I am not defending either side here. These are not my personal beliefs. Just my observations of what is considered acceptable. 

Thats my take too. 

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I wasn't advocating for this guy to get a press pass or for more restrictions in the camp area.It just seems like Mxsports is trying to...

I wasn't advocating for this guy to get a press pass or for more restrictions in the camp area.

It just seems like Mxsports is trying to control the narrative so to speak by asking this guy to pull his videos. Mxsports does not like people showing videos of what goes on at the races. 

Or is the whole "Insurance rates are going up" argument based off this Slowie guy showing this jump at the 8 minute mark?

As I mentioned earlier, I have a really hard time believing that video could raise insurance. Really any of them. I understand what ML is saying but I just don't see how any insurance company would see any of this stuff and how that can get factored into what rates would be. The only times I can see these clips factoring in is if something serious happens and you can go back and reference the clip for proof. But otherwise, I just have a hard time believing that anything the guys posts is factoring into insurance costs. I could be wrong, but I would like someone to explain or give some examples.

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8/15/2024 11:30am

Whether he should have been filming there or not, you know what seems like a bigger liability then the sport “looking bad” on a video because there is partying going on; not putting more effort into the safety of riders and having children flag a professional event. Thankfully MXSports can just take away a media pass but I guess we will have to wait for a serious injury or a death to happen to fix this glaring problem that should have been addressed years ago. This is textbook moto/MXsports stuff here people. Same shit, different season 😂

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8/15/2024 11:31am

Free Slowie. Dude is moto

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8/15/2024 11:36am
Magoofan wrote:

Seems right up there with what's going on in England these days....  

Only "approved" propaganda.

 

You think that’s an England only problem? 

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8/15/2024 11:37am
ML512 wrote:
Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.He asked for one mid-way through LL...

Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.

He asked for one mid-way through LL, and they did deny it. Simply put, insurance issues are becoming huge for the races and a filmer focusing on people riding through flaming hoops, crashing pit bikes drunk, etc is an issue for the promoters and series as they battle these issues from a legal standpoint. Welcome to modern-day America folks.

If people don't understand how this is a liability that can effect our ability to hold racing events, I'm sorry, but it's a serious problem.

I've seen a higher amount than usual of filmers and photographers complaining the past couple years of not getting approved for media credentials at events. It's quite simple, work with an accredited media outlet. Just because you can have a big IG following doesn't mean you're media in the eyes of those who hand out the access.

One last add-on I'll edit in here...and this is no offense to Slowie as I do get entertainment from his content. If you build a following that is primarily from crash videos, crazy partying, and overall chaos. Then you will struggle to be taken seriously at a certain level and that's fine. If that's the route you choose, then you live with the consequences of it. There are positives and negatives to all decisions. If you want to be taken seriously from a professional level, then sometimes you have to adjust accordingly. There's nothing wrong with the chaos path, look at the living Buttery Films (Conner) has made. It works, but you also don't see him trying to get press passes and serious filming rolls. He owns his brand/image and it works.

A accredited moto media outlet?

Oxymorons are my favorite.

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A accredited moto media outlet?

Oxymorons are my favorite.

Oh, bite me.

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I’d put money on DC being one of the “Woodstock 99 being a disaster was Limp Bizkit’s fault” people

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Magoofan wrote:

Seems right up there with what's going on in England these days....  

Only "approved" propaganda.

 

You think that’s an England only problem? 

No...but England went off the charts.  If we want to discuss further, lets take it to non-Moto.

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"I bought a camera and upload to youtube, therefore it's a travesty if I'm not treated as a media mogul"...wtf.     

Don't worry, dingbats that equate this to government censorship (like magoo) will blindly stand behind you.

Honest opinion on this matter: Who gives a flying fuck

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Knowing this man I trust this mans judgment whole heartedly. An there are alot more people that dont trust mxs as far as they can throw...

1000016347.jpg?VersionId=blBo0YvU4ytzETbyZ YLtU.Knowing this man I trust this mans judgment whole heartedly. An there are alot more people that dont trust mxs as far as they can throw him in this industry, tracks included both in the nationals and local tracks.  Im not getting into the whole glen helen bullshit again. First and foremost davey has never once treated me in any way shape or form badly. On a personal level I have no issues id go have dinner with him and bullshit mx all night long just would never do business with him. Professionally and in bussines him and his sister are snakes. Im not saying they dont help people or even help riders but thos  little things wouldnt be needed if there wasnt a massive amount of bullshit and greed. 

Ive said it beforw and ill say it again Davey jr and his ccorporate greed sister are not Davey Sr.

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If I remember right, Robb's ex-wife is Tim Cotter's daughter

*Correction, he was married to Tim Cotter's cousin.

It is the South* by way of WV... not that theirs anything wrong with that...

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8/15/2024 12:09pm
ML512 wrote:

Oh, bite me.

Those toofs tho...   go fund me for Slowie teefs!

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               Unadilla …..late 70’s…… Ten times rowdier than that  ! !

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               Unadilla …..late 70’s…… Ten times rowdier than that  ! !

*Me getting back home from going to Dilla the first time with friends when I was 13

Mom: “hey how was it, what did you do?”

Me: “we lit hay bails on fire and rolled them down a hill and watched people shoot fireworks at strangers motorhomes until they caught fire”

Mom: “YOU DID WHAT?!?!”

Me: “you don’t understand Mom, you had to be there”

 

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Whether he should have been filming there or not, you know what seems like a bigger liability then the sport “looking bad” on a video because...

Whether he should have been filming there or not, you know what seems like a bigger liability then the sport “looking bad” on a video because there is partying going on; not putting more effort into the safety of riders and having children flag a professional event. Thankfully MXSports can just take away a media pass but I guess we will have to wait for a serious injury or a death to happen to fix this glaring problem that should have been addressed years ago. This is textbook moto/MXsports stuff here people. Same shit, different season 😂

Give Slowie a media pass. Tell him he can post content online but a percentage of income has to go pay better flaggers. 

 

Boom! Problem solved! What's are we fixing next guys? LOL

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Maybe he was taking away YouTube views from The Weege Show

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8/15/2024 12:56pm
Whether he should have been filming there or not, you know what seems like a bigger liability then the sport “looking bad” on a video because...

Whether he should have been filming there or not, you know what seems like a bigger liability then the sport “looking bad” on a video because there is partying going on; not putting more effort into the safety of riders and having children flag a professional event. Thankfully MXSports can just take away a media pass but I guess we will have to wait for a serious injury or a death to happen to fix this glaring problem that should have been addressed years ago. This is textbook moto/MXsports stuff here people. Same shit, different season 😂

MXer391 wrote:
Give Slowie a media pass. Tell him he can post content online but a percentage of income has to go pay better flaggers.  Boom! Problem solved! What's...

Give Slowie a media pass. Tell him he can post content online but a percentage of income has to go pay better flaggers. 

 

Boom! Problem solved! What's are we fixing next guys? LOL

On the next episode of “Vitard Vice”;

 The gang crowdfunds Max Anstie’s MxDN effort!

Can they do what Star can only do for Eli? How will Max finish? Will Bobby Regan start throwing things? 

STAY TUNED!!

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ML512 wrote:
Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.He asked for one mid-way through LL...

Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.

He asked for one mid-way through LL, and they did deny it. Simply put, insurance issues are becoming huge for the races and a filmer focusing on people riding through flaming hoops, crashing pit bikes drunk, etc is an issue for the promoters and series as they battle these issues from a legal standpoint. Welcome to modern-day America folks.

If people don't understand how this is a liability that can effect our ability to hold racing events, I'm sorry, but it's a serious problem.

I've seen a higher amount than usual of filmers and photographers complaining the past couple years of not getting approved for media credentials at events. It's quite simple, work with an accredited media outlet. Just because you can have a big IG following doesn't mean you're media in the eyes of those who hand out the access.

One last add-on I'll edit in here...and this is no offense to Slowie as I do get entertainment from his content. If you build a following that is primarily from crash videos, crazy partying, and overall chaos. Then you will struggle to be taken seriously at a certain level and that's fine. If that's the route you choose, then you live with the consequences of it. There are positives and negatives to all decisions. If you want to be taken seriously from a professional level, then sometimes you have to adjust accordingly. There's nothing wrong with the chaos path, look at the living Buttery Films (Conner) has made. It works, but you also don't see him trying to get press passes and serious filming rolls. He owns his brand/image and it works.

Thank you for the explanation. Can’t say I disagree with you. It would seem better to stop the fellas from doing all the stupid shit in the pits but that’s their prorogitive. . 

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I love how Cooksey is brave enough to bring controversial topics to light, one reason why we need him. The current media outlets are scared of Mx Sports/DC which is sad, some people only “want to hear the motocross stuff” but others want the whole cake. 

Just like when Cotter ripped the dudes phone away from him I only heard that story from Cooksey, Our sport is rowdy our fans are rowdy we are not going to lose fans by seeing what slowie post. Almost any action sport has a group degenerates that film and capture the party. 

 

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Falcon wrote:
Was Slowie Films the victim of unwarranted discrimination, or was the videographer doing lines off a hooker's ass in clear view of the TV cameras on...

Was Slowie Films the victim of unwarranted discrimination, or was the videographer doing lines off a hooker's ass in clear view of the TV cameras on live TV? There are layers here. 

Wait, did he really. 

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ML512 wrote:
Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.He asked for one mid-way through LL...

Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.

He asked for one mid-way through LL, and they did deny it. Simply put, insurance issues are becoming huge for the races and a filmer focusing on people riding through flaming hoops, crashing pit bikes drunk, etc is an issue for the promoters and series as they battle these issues from a legal standpoint. Welcome to modern-day America folks.

If people don't understand how this is a liability that can effect our ability to hold racing events, I'm sorry, but it's a serious problem.

I've seen a higher amount than usual of filmers and photographers complaining the past couple years of not getting approved for media credentials at events. It's quite simple, work with an accredited media outlet. Just because you can have a big IG following doesn't mean you're media in the eyes of those who hand out the access.

One last add-on I'll edit in here...and this is no offense to Slowie as I do get entertainment from his content. If you build a following that is primarily from crash videos, crazy partying, and overall chaos. Then you will struggle to be taken seriously at a certain level and that's fine. If that's the route you choose, then you live with the consequences of it. There are positives and negatives to all decisions. If you want to be taken seriously from a professional level, then sometimes you have to adjust accordingly. There's nothing wrong with the chaos path, look at the living Buttery Films (Conner) has made. It works, but you also don't see him trying to get press passes and serious filming rolls. He owns his brand/image and it works.

Farmer J wrote:
Im not trying to stick up for slowie but he was denied a media pass before lorettas. He might of asked for one again midway through...

Im not trying to stick up for slowie but he was denied a media pass before lorettas. He might of asked for one again midway through but he asked for one weeks before and was denied. As far as the insurance i totaly understand but shouldnt mx sports be partolling looking over their events if thats such an issue? Also the accredited media thing cant be serious. I know of 2 pretty well known accredited medias (edited 3) i wont mention that got denied and do nothing but report on the races not make vlog videos. Meanwhile this and lasy year theres been media that got passes that were not heard of before with zero following under 100 subscribers followers. Call me crazy but mx sports and DC do everything they can to sensor and control the narraitve in racing. 

Oh, you mean they gave credentials to people that  would provide content for free…yet charge those people to ride a bicycle through the pits, lol

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Guess I can see the point about insurance premiums being effected by the vids like slowie puts out there.  

What doesn't quite ring true is the part about slowie not being part of a media outlet.  I know there are folks out there with passes that are not part of a media outlet but rather just buds with DC.  Which just goes to show...it's who you know. 

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ML512 wrote:
Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.He asked for one mid-way through LL...

Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.

He asked for one mid-way through LL, and they did deny it. Simply put, insurance issues are becoming huge for the races and a filmer focusing on people riding through flaming hoops, crashing pit bikes drunk, etc is an issue for the promoters and series as they battle these issues from a legal standpoint. Welcome to modern-day America folks.

If people don't understand how this is a liability that can effect our ability to hold racing events, I'm sorry, but it's a serious problem.

I've seen a higher amount than usual of filmers and photographers complaining the past couple years of not getting approved for media credentials at events. It's quite simple, work with an accredited media outlet. Just because you can have a big IG following doesn't mean you're media in the eyes of those who hand out the access.

One last add-on I'll edit in here...and this is no offense to Slowie as I do get entertainment from his content. If you build a following that is primarily from crash videos, crazy partying, and overall chaos. Then you will struggle to be taken seriously at a certain level and that's fine. If that's the route you choose, then you live with the consequences of it. There are positives and negatives to all decisions. If you want to be taken seriously from a professional level, then sometimes you have to adjust accordingly. There's nothing wrong with the chaos path, look at the living Buttery Films (Conner) has made. It works, but you also don't see him trying to get press passes and serious filming rolls. He owns his brand/image and it works.

Farmer J wrote:
Im not trying to stick up for slowie but he was denied a media pass before lorettas. He might of asked for one again midway through...

Im not trying to stick up for slowie but he was denied a media pass before lorettas. He might of asked for one again midway through but he asked for one weeks before and was denied. As far as the insurance i totaly understand but shouldnt mx sports be partolling looking over their events if thats such an issue? Also the accredited media thing cant be serious. I know of 2 pretty well known accredited medias (edited 3) i wont mention that got denied and do nothing but report on the races not make vlog videos. Meanwhile this and lasy year theres been media that got passes that were not heard of before with zero following under 100 subscribers followers. Call me crazy but mx sports and DC do everything they can to sensor and control the narraitve in racing. 

yak651 wrote:

Oh, you mean they gave credentials to people that  would provide content for free…yet charge those people to ride a bicycle through the pits, lol

I like how dc said he asked for one mid way through lorettas when before he even went he said he tried to get a pass and mx sports wouldn't give him one. He said he's going anyways he doesn't really need one. Im not a huge fan of the vlogs but its a look at what goes on if you dont make it. I don't care if he does get a pass but be honest about him asking weeks before and be honest about giving them to random people not just accredited media lol. 

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8/15/2024 2:55pm
I love how Cooksey is brave enough to bring controversial topics to light, one reason why we need him. The current media outlets are scared of...

I love how Cooksey is brave enough to bring controversial topics to light, one reason why we need him. The current media outlets are scared of Mx Sports/DC which is sad, some people only “want to hear the motocross stuff” but others want the whole cake. 

Just like when Cotter ripped the dudes phone away from him I only heard that story from Cooksey, Our sport is rowdy our fans are rowdy we are not going to lose fans by seeing what slowie post. Almost any action sport has a group degenerates that film and capture the party. 

 

The problem I have with Cooksey is that he comes across so unrationally angry like Tim Cotter or whoever made out with his chick in high school. If he could control his emotions (or completely remove them from his work) he would probably be a lot more palatable to people. The name calling and euphemisms are just stupid. 

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I love how Cooksey is brave enough to bring controversial topics to light, one reason why we need him. The current media outlets are scared of...

I love how Cooksey is brave enough to bring controversial topics to light, one reason why we need him. The current media outlets are scared of Mx Sports/DC which is sad, some people only “want to hear the motocross stuff” but others want the whole cake. 

Just like when Cotter ripped the dudes phone away from him I only heard that story from Cooksey, Our sport is rowdy our fans are rowdy we are not going to lose fans by seeing what slowie post. Almost any action sport has a group degenerates that film and capture the party. 

 

Rickyisms wrote:
The problem I have with Cooksey is that he comes across so unrationally angry like Tim Cotter or whoever made out with his chick in high...

The problem I have with Cooksey is that he comes across so unrationally angry like Tim Cotter or whoever made out with his chick in high school. If he could control his emotions (or completely remove them from his work) he would probably be a lot more palatable to people. The name calling and euphemisms are just stupid. 

Its the approach for me as well. He could just present the facts without adding his opinion in every sentence. 

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8/15/2024 4:01pm
Falcon wrote:
Was Slowie Films the victim of unwarranted discrimination, or was the videographer doing lines off a hooker's ass in clear view of the TV cameras on...

Was Slowie Films the victim of unwarranted discrimination, or was the videographer doing lines off a hooker's ass in clear view of the TV cameras on live TV? There are layers here. 

She technically wasn’t a hooker, we never paid her..

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I can't watch his videos.  He looks too much like a muppet and it messes with my brain. 

I can't watch his videos.  

He looks too much like a muppet and it messes with my brain. 

Worried about another mans appearance?? Idk man you do you. 

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ML512 wrote:
Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.He asked for one mid-way through LL...

Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.

He asked for one mid-way through LL, and they did deny it. Simply put, insurance issues are becoming huge for the races and a filmer focusing on people riding through flaming hoops, crashing pit bikes drunk, etc is an issue for the promoters and series as they battle these issues from a legal standpoint. Welcome to modern-day America folks.

If people don't understand how this is a liability that can effect our ability to hold racing events, I'm sorry, but it's a serious problem.

I've seen a higher amount than usual of filmers and photographers complaining the past couple years of not getting approved for media credentials at events. It's quite simple, work with an accredited media outlet. Just because you can have a big IG following doesn't mean you're media in the eyes of those who hand out the access.

One last add-on I'll edit in here...and this is no offense to Slowie as I do get entertainment from his content. If you build a following that is primarily from crash videos, crazy partying, and overall chaos. Then you will struggle to be taken seriously at a certain level and that's fine. If that's the route you choose, then you live with the consequences of it. There are positives and negatives to all decisions. If you want to be taken seriously from a professional level, then sometimes you have to adjust accordingly. There's nothing wrong with the chaos path, look at the living Buttery Films (Conner) has made. It works, but you also don't see him trying to get press passes and serious filming rolls. He owns his brand/image and it works.

I guess the free spirit, party like a rock star, full send shenanigan days of Moto XXX, Crusty, Terrafirma, Metal Mulisha are all in the rear...

I guess the free spirit, party like a rock star, full send shenanigan days of Moto XXX, Crusty, Terrafirma, Metal Mulisha are all in the rear view mirror. Sad to see yet another example of corporate America pussyfying America. Thanks for the memories you hard core bastards out there!!!

Pretty sure the people running things back then weren't giving out media credentials to those guys either. 

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There is a No Fun Ring in MX Sports!

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Man people get too wound up over this stuff. Pitchforks out for every side. Why can’t we let people party and get wild without everything going on camera and YT/IG. 

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